CBS: Tennessee Must Make Changes

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SubVet676 said:
Love your posts. Easy to respect a man who says what he thinks, and if you're offended or your feelings are hurt...door's right over there.

Agree with what you said here, but...

Make that FG, beat UGA in regulation. There's one win we gave away. Defense truly sucks. Almost cost us the Miss. State and Arky games. Did cost us the Bama game (yeah, I know...the Pick 6 and all that. But we also gave up two field-length drives. 50/50/90)

Might cost us another one before its' over. You trust this defense against Pavia? Or in Gainesville, even if it's Elmer Fudd on the UF sideline?

Bottom line: Good teams get lucky here and there. Remember the '98 team? Could have easily been 8-3, but got lucky. In other words, found a way to win.

That's what good / great teams do. We're just not there yet.

Hang tough. You're fun to watch.
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Thats the frustrating part. I totally agree. This team is already capable of greatness in spurts but just not quite there yet to be great consistently. Thats admittedly hard.

We looked great against UGA and won the game if Gilbert does his job. We had a HORRIBLE game offensively when the defense finally got it together and held Bama to 28 points at their house. We looked like the better team at times but beat ourselves with playcalling and dropped passes. Its frustrating.

We have CJHs best recruiting class by FAR coming in next year. Especially at WR and LB. We only need a couple Safeties and a couple Dtackles from the portal IMO. May grab an experienced TE as well. This roster has gotten deeper and more talented every year under CJH
Big things to come. Buckle up!! Its just not this year yet...nor was it ever gonna be for 99% of people. The future is incredibly bright. The clown who wrote that article has never coached football in their lives. Probably never even played football with pads on. For them to say CJH needs to fire coaches is like me telling NASA they need to switch astronauts for the moon missions coming up. Completely talking out their azzes.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Thats the frustrating part. I totally agree. This team is already capable of greatness in spurts but just not quite there yet to be great consistently. Thats admittedly hard.

We looked great against UGA and won the game if Gilbert does his job. We had a HORRIBLE game offensively when the defense finally got it together and held Bama to 28 points at their house. We looked like the better team at times but beat ourselves with playcalling and dropped passes. Its frustrating.

We have CJHs best recruiting class by FAR coming in next year. Especially at WR and LB. We only need a couple Safeties and a couple Dtackles from the portal IMO. May grab an experienced TE as well. This roster has gotten deeper and more talented every year under CJH
Big things to come. Buckle up!! Its just not this year yet...nor was it ever gonna be for 99% of people. The future is incredibly bright. The clown who wrote that article has never coached football in their lives. Probably never even played football with pads on. For them to say CJH needs to fire coaches is like me telling NASA they need to switch astronauts for the moon missions coming up. Completely talking out their azzes.
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And here is where we disagree. Go with me here...

Look at the numbers I posted on the UT defense this year in another thread. Should be easy to find. If not, then just go to the NCAA FB stats page, and see where UT ranks in team stats. That's so you know where I'm coming from here.

If I were the hypothetical newly-appointed GM of UT Football, and what I said went, I'd make two moves at the end of this season:
- Coach Heupel has to pick his OC, and give them the play calls. That let's Josh focus on the big picture, like clock management; timeouts; run/pass call; etc. Game management. The things that have plagued him to this point. He gets to pick his OC, but his OC calls the plays.
- Sorry, but Tim Banks is gone. His only fan right now is John Chavis, and for painfully obvious reasons. And I go after...for example...a guy like the Vandy DC. Someone who does more with less. An aggressive offense requires an aggressive defense. He gets to pick his assistants. He gets a 3-year deal, and one year to show improvement; two years to show big improvement; and three years to produce a Top 5 SEC defense. For every year he hits the mark, he gets a one-year extension. If he hits on his first 3 years, then he gets a rolling 3-year extension every year, i.e. - he always has 3 more years on his deal. If he slips to lower half in the SEC, then those extensions stop until he's back on track. Buyout is 100%. If he's any good, I'll make him the highest-paid DC in the nation after 3 years to keep the Penn State's at bay.

Heupel can win here..and win big...but he needs a defense that matches his offensive style. What we have right now does not. Banks is a solid guy, but he's not a good fit for this offense. Them's just the facts. Offense wins games, Defense wins championships. It is what it is.

Adapt, or fail. Right now, we're on the wrong track.
 
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vol94 said:
Many Vol fans say the same thing, including the comments about Banks. This is an objective opinion from an outsider who could not care less about TN, one way or the other. He is spot on - Heup must make changes in the offseason (DBs, WR, and D coordinator). Hopefully Banks lands a head coaching job and takes Martinez w him.

If Heup makes the changes, he better go get someone outside of the program with new ideas.
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Napier may be available as a dc. Fla does have a good defensive team.
 
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Undisciplined. You can have less talent and still be disciplined and fundamentally sound. That is a hallmark of a well-coached team regardless of the sport or talent level. The Vols are not disciplined and the fundamentals are not solid in certain areas. I don’t know which coach or coaches it is that are the source or weak link of this sloppy team, but whomever it is needs to get it together or needs to be replaced by someone who can do it and fix it.
 
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RandomUTfan said:
I may have missed it, but I didn't see anyone in here point out that the premise of the article was "Overreactions." Just a bunch of people agreeing with overreacting...
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The author’s overreactions were the comments about Simpson and the Heisman, his draft selection, and GA tech winning ACC.

Franklin being fired and TN needing to make changes weren’t part of the overreaction.
 
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Gandalf said:
Truthfully, we all expected a rough year with Nico leaving in the middle and not even knowing who for sure was going to replace him. Expectations rose dramatically once Joey showed that he was a decent QB. We lost a lot to the NFL though last year and didnt have ready replacements. The ones we did have are injured.

So, yeah, a lot of these criticisms seem valid but on the other hand, I dont think in June, any was really expecting this team to go 11-1 or better.
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Correct. The UGA game changed the outlook. Now we are disappointed in bungling winnable games to both of our rivals, with the game that we usually bungle the most still coming up. On the road.
 
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Just gonna throw this out there. Both on internet sports articles and in watching game highlights, UT defenders seem to be "chirping" at their teammates for missed tackles, coverage, assignments. That's not a good sign.

This defense is losing its' focus. And its' cohesiveness. That translates into losses.

Heupel needs to get that fixed, and quick. Much like in aviation, stall spins are hard to recover from. Steady hand on the stick, or the crash is imminent.
 
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General Jack said:
Under the category of dumb, I'll add that the penalties are getting old. Killed our first drive, wiped out a long pass play, led to our safety and 2 PIs gave bama 30 yards on a single drive. Its been an underlying theme with Heupel and needs to be fixed.
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Well coached teams do not have Linemen downfield on a called pass play. Nor do they get called for Illegal formation; being a foot off the LOS. Poor Tackling? NO tackling. Watch Indy play. That is a Coach. Everything we saw last night indicated the VOLS are piss poorly coached. It IS a long list. The Heuple experiment has gone sour. Only way to fix it; unfortunately--is clean house, cause Heuple won't. Which isn't happening THIS year. So get ready for another year of the same old same old. UT will be #10-14 in the SEC. Tennessee stacked Quality Dlinemen the last 4 years and that's how they won in 2024. Those guys left, and nothing was done to replace them. Failures all around. Where is the Money going? For next year's QB & WRS? Games are won in the trenches.
 
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SubVet676 said:
Just gonna throw this out there. Both on internet sports articles and in watching game highlights, UT defenders seem to be "chirping" at their teammates for missed tackles, coverage, assignments. That's not a good sign.

This defense is losing its' focus. And its' cohesiveness. That translates into losses.

Heupel needs to get that fixed, and quick. Much like in aviation, stall spins are hard to recover from. Steady hand on the stick, or the crash is imminent.
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Somebody needs to be chirping! Somebody needs to be the leader. And if you can't cut being corrected, then you aren't ever going to improve.
 
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OmahaOmaha said:
Well coached teams do not have Linemen downfield on a called pass play. Nor do they get called for Illegal formation; being a foot off the LOS. Poor Tackling? NO tackling. Watch Indy play. That is a Coach. Everything we saw last night indicated the VOLS are piss poorly coached. It IS a long list. The Heuple experiment has gone sour. Only way to fix it; unfortunately--is clean house, cause Heuple won't. Which isn't happening THIS year. So get ready for another year of the same old same old. UT will be #10-14 in the SEC. Tennessee stacked Quality Dlinemen the last 4 years and that's how they won in 2024. Those guys left, and nothing was done to replace them. Failures all around. Where is the Money going? For next year's QB & WRS? Games are won in the trenches.
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Take a nap, dude.

Such drama…
 
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So, do we grab Golesh now and be done with it? Asking for a friend. It’s tic, but depending on how the OU, FLA and Vandy games go…never know.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Thats the frustrating part. I totally agree. This team is already capable of greatness in spurts but just not quite there yet to be great consistently. Thats admittedly hard.

We looked great against UGA and won the game if Gilbert does his job. We had a HORRIBLE game offensively when the defense finally got it together and held Bama to 28 points at their house. We looked like the better team at times but beat ourselves with playcalling and dropped passes. Its frustrating.

We have CJHs best recruiting class by FAR coming in next year. Especially at WR and LB. We only need a couple Safeties and a couple Dtackles from the portal IMO. May grab an experienced TE as well. This roster has gotten deeper and more talented every year under CJH
Big things to come. Buckle up!! Its just not this year yet...nor was it ever gonna be for 99% of people. The future is incredibly bright. The clown who wrote that article has never coached football in their lives. Probably never even played football with pads on. For them to say CJH needs to fire coaches is like me telling NASA they need to switch astronauts for the moon missions coming up. Completely talking out their azzes.
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We probably read too much into the UGA game. At the halfway point, this looks like the worst defense Smart has ever had.
 
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with a very good chance of losing in the swamp and losing to possible Heisman winner Vandy,
will that be enough to get JH to change some assistants?
 
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