CBS-Bold prediction -- CBJ out before november

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dan4vols said:
Here's another bold prediction. Let Tennessee wipe out GT say 35-17 then win game 2, then go down to the swamp and come out with a win there, then beat Georgia for a 3rd time. You'll see these same experts puttin out narrative like CBJ and Tennessee on a roll!
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Sorry Dan, that's not that bold. Sure it's been a while since we've won in the swamp, but they are not the same Spurrier led team. Maybe Donkey Face can pull off another unlikely win again, but I think he's lost the mojo that's been giving the gators the confidence to beat us. He is still the guy that said, you just don't lose to Tn. Well he did, even after being up 21-3 mid 3rd qtr.

What is it about a 50/50 chance we start 5-0? That's not bold, that's a coin toss.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Sorry Dan, that's not that bold. Sure it's been a while since we've won in the swamp, but they are not the same Spurrier led team. Maybe Donkey Face can pull off another unlikely win again, but I think he's lost the mojo that's been giving the gators the confidence to beat us. He is still the guy that said, you just don't lose to Tn. Well he did, even after being up 21-3 mid 3rd qtr.

What is it about a 50/50 chance we start 5-0? That's not bold, that's a coin toss.
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They won the east last year. Just because Spurrier isnt there doesnt mean beating them doesn't mean as much.
 
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I'm obviously not the biggest Butch Jones fan but we see these type of articles EVERY summer.

It's time for journalist and their bold predictions write something original up.
 
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The buyout would be mitigated by CBJ's contractual obligation to make a reasonable effort to find another coaching job. He could go back to a program like Cincinnati, earn $2+ million a year and the buyout would be negligible. He's not going to sit home watching TV for four years while UT pays him $2.5 million a year.

In all likelihood, CBJ will be coaching next year-- here or elsewhere. Currie's expectations and CBJ's ability to meet them will determine how long he coaches at UT-- not the buyout.
 
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Coaches being fired prior to November 1st is really not as common as the writer makes it sound with the stupid October being the new December line. He only cites Les Miles which was a unique situation. Hell, even a no brainer firing like Dooley made it to November.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
They won the east last year. Just because Spurrier isnt there doesnt mean beating them doesn't mean as much.
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Seems like alot of people forget we had trouble beating them even before Spurrior arrived. In fact, I believe two of Majors SEC Championships were because Florida was on probation.
 
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His buy out is 2 mil a year. If we fire him after February 28th, it goes down to six million.
 
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IknoxvolsI said:
Seems like alot of people forget we had trouble beating them even before Spurrior arrived. In fact, I believe two of Majors SEC Championships were because Florida was on probation.
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This is true...although one of those years (1990) included a 45-3 victory over Florida who were coached by Spurrier then.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I agree with your post. I am relying on his past actions, what we lost to graduation/draft, and the schedule to form my opinion on what will happen. Others are relying on hope that new staff, returning injured players, freshmen, and underachievement by historically good rival programs will cause us to overcome the conventional wisdom. It'll all play out on the field. I just have a knee jerk reaction to the preposterous notion that Jones transcends the program and will somehow be coach here for so long as he wants to be.
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oh, i agree with that. i've just grown tired of the conversation. we all know what he's done. it's a mixed bag of good and bad, all leading to average/above average results, when more was certainly possible.

to me, i've just gotten to the point where i just don't care what's happened in the past. i know what happened.

i'm only concerned w/what happens next. it's up to him, good or bad. either way, his future will take care of itself.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Coaches being fired prior to November 1st is really not as common as the writer makes it sound with the stupid October being the new December line. He only cites Les Miles which was a unique situation. Hell, even a no brainer firing like Dooley made it to November.
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This! Barring something really bad off the field (or 3-9'ish on the field) there's no way Butch doesn't finish the season.

I've mentioned several times that UT's best bet is for Butch to figure it out and get this thing going. If the admin does make a change down the road, I hope they have a plan in place...which is something they've lacked in the past.
 
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IknoxvolsI said:
Seems like alot of people forget we had trouble beating them even before Spurrior arrived. In fact, I believe two of Majors SEC Championships were because Florida was on probation.
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1. Johnny Majors led the Vols to three SEC Championships: '85, '89, and '90. We beat Florida one of those years, Florida beat us another of them, and the teams didn't play in the third instance. So Florida being a bunch of cheaters on probation is only a part of the story.

2. Tennessee and Florida didn't play annually until Spurrier's arrival in '90 (Spurrier didn't have anything to do with that, really, it was just coincidence of timing and the arrival of SEC divisions two years later in '92). Prior to Spurrier's arrival, the Vols were 13-6 against the Gators. Heck, we even went 2-1 against the lizards in Spurrier's first three years. Then the series tilted decidedly in Florida's favor.

Here's hoping that era has now come to an end.

Go Vols!
 
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My suspicion is the only way Butch could not last the season is if he lost to Georgia Tech and Kentucky and wound up 2-6 on Halloween. I could see folks understanding if he lost to Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and to a lesser extent South Carolina. Both Georgia Tech and Kentucky would probably be too much. Nor do I see him losing all six of those games and more likely 3. 4-4 or 5-3 going into the easier November stretch is not unrealistic and probably not enough for a change.
 
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Boca Vol said:
This! Barring something really bad off the field (or 3-9'ish on the field) there's no way Butch doesn't finish the season.

I've mentioned several times that UT's best bet is for Butch to figure it out and get this thing going. If the admin does make a change down the road, I hope they have a plan in place...which is something they've lacked in the past.
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The new recruiting rules may turn out to be a disaster. When player and recruiting losses occur with a coaching change, there won't be much opportunity to rebuild a depleted roster because the limits are strictly by year and not how many open scholarships remain. The schools that fire coaches until it gets sorted out may be placing themselves at a big disadvantage. The flip side is that players who would leave may find no place to go, but disgruntled players don't make for a good team - at least that's what we've Hurd through the grapevine.
 
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AM64 said:
The new recruiting rules may turn out to be a disaster. When player and recruiting losses occur with a coaching change, there won't be much opportunity to rebuild a depleted roster because the limits are strictly by year and not how many open scholarships remain. The schools that fire coaches until it gets sorted out may be placing themselves at a big disadvantage. The flip side is that players who would leave may find no place to go, but disgruntled players don't make for a good team - at least that's what we've Hurd through the grapevine.
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I guess we will just have to stay mediocre till all the other teams go through that.
 
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