Carmelo Anthony situation

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gordonr24

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Do you find it ridiculous that Denver is asking so much in return for Carmelo? I mean we all know that it's obvious that Carmelo will not stay in Denver, and Denver is being utterly stupid by not trading him. Of course, the Lakers and Knicks are being hesitant as they should ,but Denver should take what they can get. Denver should do that LA trade and get Bynum and a few pieces with him. Or perhaps they could do a trade with the Knicks and get Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, and perhaps a draft pick or two for Anthony. If the Knicks did that, they'd get Carmelo for Chandler, and then they could sign Chris Paul as a Free agent to replace Felton. It probably will take the Knicks out of being a big time contender this year, but it would be very worth it going into next year. In fact, the Knicks aren't even contenders this year anyway. They might get 1 or 2 wins in the playoffs ,but that is it.

Yeah, those trades aren't exactly fair ,but Denver at least needs to get something in return. I'm not a Denver fan ,but I won't criticize them if they "give away" Carmelo in a trade and come out of it on the losing end. You know all these "haters" and "idiots" will come out and say that the Nuggets gave Carmelo away, when in reality, it was the only thing they could do. They have to look out for themselves. Think about it. If your Denver, do you really want to keep Carmelo for the remainder of the season and try to make a run? Right now, the Nuggets are slumping and may possibly not even make the playoffs anyway. The Nuggets right now aren't better than the Blazers or Grizzlies ,and they'll likely have to duke it out with Utah and possibly Phoenix for the final playoff spot. In the long run, it's best for Denver to get rid of Carmelo and start a rebuilding phase.

What is everyone's opinion on this issue? Normally, I could care less about this stuff, but I think this is kind of interesting to talk about, considering all of the possible scenarios.
 
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He'll be a Knick. About 97% chance imo. Denver asked for Landry Fields, Raymond Felton, Danilo Galinari, Eddy Curry, and a first round pick in exchange for Melo and 35 year old Billups yesterday. Walsh shot it down but the end trade may be a similar deal. That offer from Denver yesterday was beyond stupid though. Good thing Zeke is not still in charge, he would have taken it.
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No way he's a nugget by opening tip next season, but I wish Denver would get on with it and just accept a deal for him. He wouldn't re-sign if you have him an extra ten mil and the key to the city.
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Denver just needs to stop being greedy. They need to take what they can get. Unfortunately, they have to be in this situation ,but they're gonna have to do a trade with the Knicks or Lakers on their terms. Otherwise, they're gonna lose Carmelo over the summer for nothing. They need to get something out of this, even if they are ripped off.

The Chandler/Felton/1st round pick for Anthony trade seems reasonable to me for both parties. Denver gets 2 young talents that are not just yet in their prime and they get a 1st round pick. Felton would be a great backup for Billups and a potential good replacement for him. Chander would be a good young 16 ppg player to partially fill the void that Anthony left. As for New York, they don't lose too much ,because Anthony is a complete upgrade over Chandler ,and Felton's replacement will come in over the summer with Chris Paul. It's likely a safe bet that Paul will be a Knick this Summer.
 
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I wouldn't say Denver completely has the bad hand here... Whoever gets him in the east becomes an immediate contender.
 
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Chris Paul to the Knicks is a longshot. Not impossible but highly improbable due to the CBA.
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gordonr24 said:
Denver just needs to stop being greedy. They need to take what they can get. Unfortunately, they have to be in this situation ,but they're gonna have to do a trade with the Knicks or Lakers on their terms. Otherwise, they're gonna lose Carmelo over the summer for nothing. They need to get something out of this, even if they are ripped off.
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There ya go. Why will the Knicks trade away Fields, Landry, Felton, and/or etc.? Melo is going to sign with the Knicks in the off season and they will keep their team intact. If the Knicks can just wait till the end of the season then Melo is theirs. The season has just a little over a 1/3 left and they've played without him so far......squeeze Denver until the deadline and just offer a 1st rd pick and if they dont take it tell them to tell Melo his blank check is waiting for him after the season. The longer Denver waits the less of a bargaining chip they have in the "Melo Saga".
 
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Big Orange Diesel said:
There ya go. Why will the Knicks trade away Fields, Landry, Felton, and/or etc.? Melo is going to sign with the Knicks in the off season and they will keep their team intact. If the Knicks can just wait till the end of the season then Melo is theirs. The season has just a little over a 1/3 left and they've played without him so far......squeeze Denver until the deadline and just offer a 1st rd pick and if they dont take it tell them to tell Melo his blank check is waiting for him after the season. The longer Denver waits the less of a bargaining chip they have in the "Melo Saga".
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Thats what I think will happen. For Denver's sake, they better come to their senses and try to get rid of Melo now and hope that the Knicks will give in and do a trade.
 
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gordonr24 said:
Thats what I think will happen. For Denver's sake, they better come to their senses and try to get rid of Melo now and hope that the Knicks will give in and do a trade.
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Its so simple....right? But it seems the Knicks can't wait and want to make a run in the post season. That's why they have been the worst run franchise in the league for the past 10yrs. I was thinking maybe the NBA commish will not let Denver go empty handed.....Melo will have to sign then trade. The old sign-n-trade routine??
 
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Big Orange Diesel said:
Its so simple....right? But it seems the Knicks can't wait and want to make a run in the post season. That's why they have been the worst run franchise in the league for the past 10yrs. I was thinking maybe the NBA commish will not let Denver go empty handed.....Melo will have to sign then trade. The old sign-n-trade routine??
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I just want Melo out of Denver ASAP. Getting him out of the west will open the door for the Grizz, although I think the Grizz will make the playoffs anyway.......I hope :good!:
 
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Big Orange Diesel said:
Its so simple....right? But it seems the Knicks can't wait and want to make a run in the post season. That's why they have been the worst run franchise in the league for the past 10yrs. I was thinking maybe the NBA commish will not let Denver go empty handed.....Melo will have to sign then trade. The old sign-n-trade routine??
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The Knicks have actually been one of the best run franchises the last 3 seasons. An outsider may just look at Ws and Ls and not see that but Walsh has made all the right moves to build a playoff team after what Zeke utterly destroyed. The Knicks are still the most valuable franchise.
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Big Orange Diesel said:
There ya go. Why will the Knicks trade away Fields, Landry, Felton, and/or etc.? Melo is going to sign with the Knicks in the off season and they will keep their team intact. If the Knicks can just wait till the end of the season then Melo is theirs. The season has just a little over a 1/3 left and they've played without him so far......squeeze Denver until the deadline and just offer a 1st rd pick and if they dont take it tell them to tell Melo his blank check is waiting for him after the season. The longer Denver waits the less of a bargaining chip they have in the "Melo Saga".
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Upside: New York becomes a big deal right now.

Downside: They ruin any long term shot at really competing with the Celtics.
 
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If Melo doesn't agree to a sign & trade and goes into free agency he risks a lot of money because his new contract will fall under the new CBA. That's why Denver is calling his bluff.

The LA trade is just propoganda. It can't happen.

Denver wants players plus two first rounders which the NBA will not allow because past trades have screwed it up because their first rounders are lottery conditionals that are untradeable per league rules.

Denver has asked for three starters, Fields, Felton, and Galinari. In the end I think they get one of those guys.
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bamacheats said:
If Melo doesn't agree to a sign & trade and goes into free agency he risks a lot of money because his new contract will fall under the new CBA. That's why Denver is calling his bluff.

The LA trade is just propoganda. It can't happen.

Denver wants players plus two first rounders which the NBA will not allow because past trades have screwed it up because their first rounders are lottery conditionals that are untradeable per league rules.

Denver has asked for three starters, Fields, Felton, and Galinari. In the end I think they get one of those guys.
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They need to hold on to Felton if one of those guys goes.
 
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615 Vol said:
They need to hold on to Felton if one of those guys goes.
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I agree. Unfortunately the thinking is that Billups can help this season more than Felton plus Billups has a cheap buyout this season which will free up more space for the soon to be Chris Paul fiasco.
I hope as a Knicks fan that they keep Landry Fields over all of those guys.
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TennesseeFan07 said:
He may be New Jersey bound.
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Not from what I'm told. Carmelo wants to be a Knick, the Knicks are a playoff team right now without him, the Nets won't make the playoffs this year with him. Denver has had the NY deal for weeks and is just playing games like you would expect from a poorly run perennial losing franchise.

The Nets deal that is being talked about is the same deal that was on the table 6 months ago and Melo said, "no thanks."
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bamacheats said:
Denver has had the NY deal for weeks and is just playing games like you would expect from a poorly run perennial losing franchise.
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How many straight years has Denver been in the playoffs? How long is New York's postseason streak?
 
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This Russian is showing why he is rich, he's pretty clever with this Melo trade. He's never really gotten back in the Melo race, its a smokescreen to get the Knicks players to NJ, esp Mosgov. That's great for the rivalry. I wondered why Denver was so hellbent on including Mosgov now its clear. He may turn out to be one of the better owners, I wish he'd bought the Knicks from the worst owner in the league.
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hatvol96 said:
How many straight years has Denver been in the playoffs? How long is New York's postseason streak?
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Thanks hat! You further prove my point. Dolan is the worst owner in the league and the Knicks have been the worst run team in the league until Walsh was hired. I know a poorly run franchise when I see it.
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