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How is a shooting outside any different than living on a typical street where houses are 15 feet apart and 5.56 or 7.62 is going every direction? Or getting into a gunfight in an apartment building where you're separated by an inch of sheetrock?

As an aside... Police are still using 5.56 and 7.62?
 
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Not at all - just an awareness that there's a time and place. You can argue all you want that an attack at 2AM and that the resultant "shock and awe" are sound military tactics, and I'd agree. Cops are civil - not military. There is a distinct difference; just as there is a distinct law about the use of military intervention (Posse Comitatus).
Like I said, we're probably not going to agree on this. I think they should be rare but there is a place for forcibly entering into a residence.
 
Looking at the evidence..... what law do you feel they broke...... I do find it funny that we can’t even trust the black AG in this instance.


Before you open a new topic let’s wrap up the one you asked and I answered. But you want to the AG before extending the same courtesy to me I extended to you. I’m happy to reply re: the AG after you do
 
Police use ARs that do use 556.
I'm giving serious thought into an AR that uses 7.62.

I mean, if I were the type to own guns and have stocked up on 7.62. Ever since my fishing boat sank with all of my guns and ammo in it, and they all ended up in the bottom of the lake, I just haven't had the heart to get into gun and ammo collection again.
 
Nobody and I mean not one single person one this earth has a higher responsibility to keep me alive and safe than I do , I am responsible for my actions . Not the cops , not the judges , not the president , not congress , not the protesters .. nobody .

So after you got to sleep tonight if cops break into your house start firing shots Willy nilly you get shot and die you fqcked up in protecting yourself and are OK that one is responsible for your death other than you of course?
 
So after you got to sleep tonight if cops break into your house start firing shots Willy nilly you get shot and die you fqcked up in protecting yourself and are OK that one is responsible for your death other than you of course?
I keep flash-bangs on hand for the random police assault on my house just to make sure we're on equal footing.
 
I'm giving serious thought into an AR that uses 7.62.

I mean, if I were the type to own guns and have stocked up on 7.62. Ever since my fishing boat sank with all of my guns and ammo in it, and they all ended up in the bottom of the lake, I just haven't had the heart to get into gun and ammo collection again.
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I just finished with this build, upper only. 7.62x39 can still be got at a somewhat reasonable price. Primary reason I put it together.
 
I'm giving serious thought into an AR that uses 7.62.

I mean, if I were the type to own guns and have stocked up on 7.62. Ever since my fishing boat sank with all of my guns and ammo in it, and they all ended up in the bottom of the lake, I just haven't had the heart to get into gun and ammo collection again.

Sounds like you need some goggles and flippers.
 
So after you got to sleep tonight if cops break into your house start firing shots Willy nilly you get shot and die you fqcked up in protecting yourself and are OK that one is responsible for your death other than you of course?
If he is involved in illegal activity and fired at the police first,he would be responsible for that outcome.
 
ARs are so versatile. Before I lost mine 12 miles offshore, I had several calibers including 556, 6.8SPC, 300B/O, 308 (AR10) and now 7.62.
Really is a pity. Losses like that really take it out of a guy. Never really have it in you to own firearms after that, what with starting from scratch and all.
















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So after you got to sleep tonight if cops break into your house start firing shots Willy nilly you get shot and die you fqcked up in protecting yourself and are OK that one is responsible for your death other than you of course?

They won’t , they haven’t in 52 years I’ve been on this earth .. do you know why that is ? Take a wild guess . The ones that raised me make good self responsible choices , they taught me how to make good self responsible choices . Taking self responsibility solves problems . Who would have guessed .
 
Well what's the point of warrant if you're going to give them time to flush/destroy evidence. Usually the warrant is to obtain evidence. If you are going to allow them to destroy it may as well not even bother with trying to obtain it. There's all kinds of evidence besides drugs. There are computer hard drives that could contain child pronography, lots of things that could be destroyed if you give the criminals a chance.

Like I've said, I am against no knock warrants and I think the cops make the job a lot harder than it has to be sometimes. I can see the need for kicking in a door occasionally.


I think the war on drugs is a lost cause and needs to end. Search warrants over drug trafficking unless we are taking pounds of the stuff is just a waste of time.

But I am with you on child porn and severe crimes. You dobt wait for the person to come out.
 
I think the war on drugs is a lost cause and needs to end. Search warrants over drug trafficking unless we are taking pounds of the stuff is just a waste of time.

But I am with you on child porn and severe crimes. You dobt wait for the person to come out.
I'm about to come to that conclusion as well. All I will add is if you legalize it don't use my tax dollars for treatment.
 
Well for one thing an inch of sheetrock is better than air. In all reality it's much more than an inch of sheetrock. Walls between apartments are required to be thicker construction. Also you have a subject contained rather than running all over the place.

Lol, this is pointless. You think there are virtually no circumstances where law enforcement should forcibly enter a residence. I disagree, although it should be rare there are times I think it's appropriate. I'm not changing your mind,.your not changing mine so may as well move on.
I never once said there is no circumstance. But the war on drugs is a stupid premise to conduct dynamic raids on citizens where people get killed unnecessarily.
 
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I never once said there is no circumstance. But the war on drugs is a stupid premise to conduct dynamic raids on citizens where people get killed unnecessarily.
And I never said they were always warranted. Actually I've said just the opposite. I've said repeatedly that cops often make the job more complicated than it needs to be.
 
Hang out with a guy that shoots at cops there’s a descent chance you will be shot. Glad they were not charged. This is a non story. Domestic terrorist organizations and athletes are the only ones who care about this case
 
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Hang out with a guy that shoots at cops there’s a descent chance you will be shot. Glad they were not charged. This is a non story. Domestic terrorist organizations and athletes are the only ones who care about this case
Apparently you haven't gotten the memo that when the cops kill a black man the trophy for the losing generation gets to burn **** down.
 

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