Bryce cleared

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VolBeef88

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I've been very busy and haven't had the chance to pay much attention. So if it's already been posted sorry.
 
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Still waiting for NCAA decison on appeal, was held out of practice yesterday because of illness after a great practice Monday.
 
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Heard per Hubbs on Sunday Sports Extra that they are expecting just a one game suspension but at the max he could miss 2 games....If they decide they want to suspend him
 
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Still waiting for NCAA decison on appeal, was held out of practice yesterday because of illness after a great practice Monday.

hope it's not the "dreaded" swine flu, there's a bit of it going around here :ill_h4h:
 
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Heard per Hubbs on Sunday Sports Extra that they are expecting just a one game suspension but at the max he could miss 2 games....If they decide they want to suspend him

I honestly don't think Hubbs has any info on this subject. He always says he suspects a game or two. Mike Hamilton has said he is working toward getting him eligible. I don't think they would totally deem him ineligible, unless it is until he repays (to whom I don't know) the money he received for the trips. I would have guessed a game or two, but the NCAA doesn't typically suspend for a game or two. That is usually the type of punishment levied by the institution (UT) for a team violation. I honestly think the ruling is that he is ineligible until he repays the amount and from that he's ineligible until the NCAA says he eligible. I would say that he's somehow made restitution and they are awaiting word or whether or not he can be eligible this year. I would say the year is in question, but they don't want to cause a big stir so they've kept it under wraps and are practicing him because he is part of the team. I would also say that he is awaiting a ruling from the NCAA from which they are usually take their sweet time issuing a ruling. I would guess that when he's made restitution and they've found some innocent (sort of) activity with Butler, that they will make him eligible immediately. If they are trying to scare the sh$% out of him, they have. And they've done the same for the rest of us. So i would call their actions a success if all this comes to fruition.
 
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I would have guessed a game or two, but the NCAA doesn't typically suspend for a game or two. That is usually the type of punishment levied by the institution (UT) for a team violation. I honestly think the ruling is that he is ineligible until he repays the amount and from that he's ineligible until the NCAA says he eligible.

When it comes to issues of eligibility based on amateur status, the NCAA says that game or multi-game suspensions are a potential penalty. So, I think that it is quite possible that the penalty will be a game or two.

The conditions will be set based on which rule was violated and the severity of the violation. Such conditions may include repayment of money or sitting out of competition for a specified number of games, or both.

(For some reason firefox won't allow me to click on the insert link button, and I can't remember what the proper tags are...but you can probably google that text if you want the link.)
 
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What if the rule was concerning an agent?
Wasn't Butler, at least verbally, shopping Bryce to the Canadian Football League?
Since none of the other players on that sophomore trip are being investigated (afaik), I'm wondering if that trip is the issue.
 
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What if the rule was concerning an agent?
Wasn't Butler, at least verbally, shopping Bryce to the Canadian Football League?
Since none of the other players on that sophomore trip are being investigated (afaik), I'm wondering if that trip is the issue.

Questions of amateur status can certainly result in loss of all collegiate eligibility. If his relationship with Butler were to be found to be beyond adviser-recruit and into agent-client, then it is possible they could strip his eligibility. If that were what he is facing here, we would be hearing more about it. I think he has been ruled ineligible for 1 or 2 games, and the UTAD is working on getting him eligible for those games via an appeal. Again, just my opinion ....
 
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I thought that the NCAA already ruled a 1 game suspension and restitution. At this point the university is appealing that decision.

Why would BB end up being suspended 2 games or more. I really doubt the NCAA would add to the suspension because UT appealed it.
 
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I honestly think the ruling is that he is ineligible. I mean think about it. How can you lose your amateur status and the regain it by paying back the money? You are either an amateur or you are a professional. I hope I am wrong about this but everyone is being was to quiet about what the NCAA has said of their ruling? If this is truly an issue of his amateur status there is no gray area. You can’t be an amateur one day then lose it and get it back just by paying the money back. There is more to this than we know!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
 
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Some dude on 99.1 called in and said a "reliable" source told him no suspension and no restitution to be paid.

Take it for what it's worth....
 
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I honestly think the ruling is that he is ineligible. I mean think about it. How can you lose your amateur status and the regain it by paying back the money? You are either an amateur or you are a professional. I hope I am wrong about this but everyone is being was to quiet about what the NCAA has said of their ruling? If this is truly an issue of his amateur status there is no gray area. You can’t be an amateur one day then lose it and get it back just by paying the money back. There is more to this than we know!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

Come on, man. Nothing in this world is completely black or white.

If you can get a life sentence in jail for murder and still get out of jail later, you can certainly get your amateur status reinstated.
 
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I honestly think the ruling is that he is ineligible. I mean think about it. How can you lose your amateur status and the regain it by paying back the money? You are either an amateur or you are a professional. I hope I am wrong about this but everyone is being was to quiet about what the NCAA has said of their ruling? If this is truly an issue of his amateur status there is no gray area. You can’t be an amateur one day then lose it and get it back just by paying the money back. There is more to this than we know!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

I guess the entire remaining Ole Miss team is ineligible from when they had to pay back for inappropriate travel perks in 2007.
 
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I honestly think the ruling is that he is ineligible. I mean think about it. How can you lose your amateur status and the regain it by paying back the money? You are either an amateur or you are a professional. I hope I am wrong about this but everyone is being was to quiet about what the NCAA has said of their ruling? If this is truly an issue of his amateur status there is no gray area. You can’t be an amateur one day then lose it and get it back just by paying the money back. There is more to this than we know!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

What about his brother and others on the trip? Not sure why there is not mention of them.
 
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I thought that the NCAA already ruled a 1 game suspension and restitution. At this point the university is appealing that decision.

Why would BB end up being suspended 2 games or more. I really doubt the NCAA would add to the suspension because UT appealed it.

no one has released what the official initial NCAA penalty was. there has been much speculation but I've seen no quotes from UT or the NCAA.

UT has said they are appealing whatever the penalty was but didn't say what it was....it could have been 6 games, who knows...
 
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I honestly think the ruling is that he is ineligible. I mean think about it. How can you lose your amateur status and the regain it by paying back the money? You are either an amateur or you are a professional. I hope I am wrong about this but everyone is being was to quiet about what the NCAA has said of their ruling? If this is truly an issue of his amateur status there is no gray area. You can’t be an amateur one day then lose it and get it back just by paying the money back. There is more to this than we know!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

You can absolutely "regain" amateur status by paying money back...see here:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect...ERES&CACHEID=60ac1e004e0b89fb98dbf81ad6fc8b25
 
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