Bryce Brown Passed By?

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The only time I saw Williams play was the first open practice they had this year. He was much more explosive than Brown and matched Hardesty's effort. It just depends on how he heals from his injury.
 
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lylsmorr said:
I don't care who starts, honestly. If Poole is the best option, then start him. Same goes for Oku
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I think everyone agrees with this sentiment. May the best man win. The argument that this thread is engaged in, however, centers around BB's results vs. his expectations, and whether or not he showed enough this year to be considered the man to beat out for next season. I say he is the man to beat.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I think everyone agrees with this sentiment. May the best man win. The argument that this thread is engaged in, however, centers around BB's results vs. his expectations, and whether or not he showed enough this year to be considered the man to beat out for next season. I say he is the man to beat.
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He could very well be. He had a lot of hype surrounding him, but unfortunately that meant high expectations. And that doesn't fare too well when you are coming to a team with a patchwork offensive line...
 
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Brown and Williams will get the majority of touches this year.

That is not knocking Poole, it is a testament of how good Williams and Brown are.
 
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utmba93 said:
Bryce Brown will be the next Adrian Peterson after he finishes his time at UT and gets a few years in the League.
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That's a real stretch IMO... It may be a long, long time before we see another RB that runs with the level of power and violent intensity that AD had at the college level. I don't remember that many backs who prognosticators said would have a short NFL career due to their "running style."

We'll see what's what. And why's everybody worried about the depth chart? There's no reason a football team can't effectively utilize three or more different backs.
 
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Lockdown1 said:
Groves come'on that corner Castille was so overrated. I remember playing against him at a passing camp about two or three weeks after spraining my MCL. I was going by him with ease. He got to Bama because of his last name and that's it.
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It was a joke. It only took Ainge 40 yards and the angle to catch him.
 
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utmba93 said:
the way hardesy hits the hole so hard he made everyone who played with him at ut look timid. It's a relative comparison that unavoidable. Hardesty simply hits the whole with world class aggression. That's his mo.

Take nothing from brown. His cuts will get better as he gains more experience and if his hip gets stronger.
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fyp.
 
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If you watched USC..we are trying to set up the following.

Lendale White- Bryce Brown, Toney Williams
Reggie Bush-David Oku
 
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Section_P_Row_48 said:
This is starting to annoy me with people. These coaches aren't doing anything on purpose to hurt the program! They want to win... PERIOD! They don't care who the players are!
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I never said they were doing anything to hurt the program. If in fact they did give BB the nod to show that Freshmen would play at UT and IF UT gets some top commits because of it then it will certainly HELP the program.

My argument isn't particularly with Brown getting PT. My question is simply about Poole not getting it when he seems to do good things every chance he gets.
 
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s1216 said:
Hi Phil Jr, nice to see you back.

Poole's problem is he's small and slow. Not sure how this translates into great speed back. If you think Poole's 4.65 would ever beat Brown's 4.32 and 20 extra pounds you are nuts. Poole runs hard but he's nothing special. Not to mention he pulled a T.O. this year on the sidelines.

He's on the bench because he is not an SEC caliber back.
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If I'm not mistaken BB's 4.32 was hand timed while Poole's was laser timed... while he was still recovering from a leg/ankle injury. I don't think he's a speed back but he has adequate speed to play for any CFB program.

Poole DOES have something special. He has good vision, makes very good cuts, and finds/makes holes that many RB's miss. I would say that the idea of him being more like MH while BB was a change up bears some merit.

To say he isn't an SEC caliber back is pretty ridiculous for a number of reasons... one of the bigger ones being that CLK talked him into staying.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Riggs was a dissappointment because he fumbled more than Arian Foster and couldn't block a slow moving 1st grader. BB fumbled approximately zero times in over 100 carries, and he had 4.55 YPC. I think you're diminishing BB's accomplishments here.
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I was talking about cutting ability only. Brown HAS demonstrated some great abilities that can carry him a good ways. But to become an elite RB, he must be able to make great cuts.
 
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Poole is not small and not slow. He is a ball of muscle. He is a workout warrior. He was in fact recovering from a leg injury that lingered his entire senior season. He was projected as more of a 4 to 5 star play after his junior. He was called by some the number one player in GA early but his senior season was pretty bad for him. He played hurt his entire senior season. His coach asked him if he wanted to sit and he refused. He limped off the field most of the year. He was actually told not to run the 40 at the combine and again he refused. He is tough and stubborn minded in a good way. He is one of the best kids on our football team character wise. His nickname was lightning for his speed in HS. Some called him Thunder and Lightning. He is not a 4.3 guy though...he is more of a 4.5 which is about the same for many a NFL back. I would say he has similar speed to Hardesty. I really really hope he is healthy next year. I am going to love the reactions on here. I think there is a reaason Kiffin sold him on staying, If you dont trust me maybe some should trust our coach. He has gotten rid of many a player who were not up to snuff and he met and felt it worth his time to convince Poole to stay.

To guys saying Williams did so awesome in spring...he played against the 3rd string. I think almost anyone has looked good against our third string based on this season. He may be great be has shown us nothing as of now. We have no reason to believe he will flop or soar.
 
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what you have just posted with regards to Tauren is, well just completely false!

i have known Tauren for years and have in fact seen every one of his HS football games save for one his Jr year. he was not recovering from a leg injury his Sr year and did not limp off the field and to my knowledge Coach Noland never asked him to sit out. his Sr campaign he ran for over 2,000yds and scored 34tds! now he was hampered his Jr year with a high ankle sprain that most know can linger but his Jr year he still ran for over 1900yds.
his 40 time of 4.65 was taken the spring of his Soph year at the Athens Nike Camp(google and you will find the info) where he finished 8th out of over 400 athletes in SPARQ rating. only other time he was tested in the 40 was by Chad Simmons of Rivals then but now Scout and was tested on grass at the HS field at 4.56 but since it was for a feature write up and not a official combine they would not update his stats on rivals.

oh and Congrats to Tauren for just being named to the Ga High School/AJC All-Decade team announced today!
 
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Currahee506 said:
what you have just posted with regards to Tauren is, well just completely false!

i have known Tauren for years and have in fact seen every one of his HS football games save for one his Jr year. he was not recovering from a leg injury his Sr year and did not limp off the field and to my knowledge Coach Noland never asked him to sit out. his Sr campaign he ran for over 2,000yds and scored 34tds! now he was hampered his Jr year with a high ankle sprain that most know can linger but his Jr year he still ran for over 1900yds.
his 40 time of 4.65 was taken the spring of his Soph year at the Athens Nike Camp(google and you will find the info) where he finished 8th out of over 400 athletes in SPARQ rating. only other time he was tested in the 40 was by Chad Simmons of Rivals then but now Scout and was tested on grass at the HS field at 4.56 but since it was for a feature write up and not a official combine they would not update his stats on rivals.

oh and Congrats to Tauren for just being named to the Ga High School/AJC All-Decade team announced today!
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Owned :haha_oh:
 
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LQTM, I read the nicknames from one of your local papers and the info regarding his coach asking him if he wanted to sit. LOL, I mean I do not know whether to believe you are not regarding your friendship with him. I do know he had an injury his senior year he played through. He was obviously the most important guy on the team. He carried it near 300 times. The high ankle sprain was his sophmore year though. So if you are going to say you are Tauren's friend you should get your facts straight. Thus, he only had 1400 yards that year. I was under the impression his senior year injury was more of a hammy issue. I mean I did follow his recruitment very closely. I did read just about every article on him at the time. So as a close friend how did you confuse Junior and Sophmore year on the high ankle issue? Also you have posted elsewhere that he had decided to leave UT? You said he basically had no faith in our coaches. You posted it as if you chat with him still? And yet it seems he is staying? I am truly confused please explain it will atleast put you in the spotlight for all.

Georgia TOP 5 Anderson Independent Mail

This is from right after his Junior year. See how some thought he was the top prospect in all of GA. These are called facts. Now I still think you may have gone to his HS but dude seriously what made you post that garbage above? Hate Jews? I had forgotten admittely that the combine with a 4.65 was from his sophmore year with the High Ankle issue. You then go on to say he is in the 4.5 range exactly what I said. Wow dude---you are a true friend to Tauren man...someone sad something positive about him and you come on in some effort to bash someone with some true some false information and in the process belittle your buddy?
 
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Thanks Jewbaccah. That was excellent.

I like Brown and hope he works hard and becomes a great back. However, I have really become a fan of Poole. The things you mention are part of it. What he's done with his opportunities to catch or run the ball are part of it. But I really think it stuck when I saw him hustle so hard on ST's... even as it was rumored that he was thinking of leaving. Even at his lowest point, the kid was giving absolutely everything he had with every opportunity he got... THAT WINS.

UT needs more Poole's... not fewer.
 
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no need to get in a pissing contest with regards to who knows who, whats the point?

with regards to TP staying at UT, all i can tell you is that he and Kiffin sat down and had a heart to heart and the conversation boiled down to trust issues with his coach and they ironed those out. his schooling is the most important thing to him and that factored into the decision as well. believe what you will.

nothing i posted was garbage and i sure don't hate Jews they are God's chosen people!
 
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