Bryce Brown Passed By?

#77
#77
If anyone needs to worry about getting passed its Oku. All this talk about BB not being the guy next year is silly . As long as hes healthy he will be the starter.
 
#79
#79
Bryce will be a tremendous RB when he gets some experience under his belt. Oku i see as being one of our main return guys or occasionallt catching some passes out of the backfield.
 
#80
#80
thebjd said:
My hope is he will be really good in the zone blocking scheme. He seems to be a downhill runner and needs to read the blocks, make one cut and go in that style running game. I think he may have been used to running around everyone in high school but there were flashes during the season of his speed especially the swing pass against Ohio.
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This is to everyone who keeps predicting sure success for the guy...

I really, really want to have my concerns allayed. I want to see him show his stuff.... but we have yet to see him make that one decisive, ankle breaking cut and go.

I HOPE it was just his injury or inexperience and not a lack of ability to do it. Before someone goes off on his athleticism... it takes more than athleticism. It takes vision and instincts to do it too.

PS- Poole showed EXCELLENT instincts in finding creases on 2 of his 3 runs vs VT.
 
#81
#81
BTW, not every highly rated back can do this. In fact, I think it is probably why most of the highly rated guys fail. They do well on the shuttle and 40 so it is assumed that they can learn to make the cuts and read holes. Creer and Riggs are examples of guys who never really showed they could do it but everyone was excited about coming in.
 
#82
#82
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sjt18 said:
BTW, not every highly rated back can do this. In fact, I think it is probably why most of the highly rated guys fail. They do well on the shuttle and 40 so it is assumed that they can learn to make the cuts and read holes. Creer and Riggs are examples of guys who never really showed they could do it but everyone was excited about coming in.
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#83
#83
sjt18 said:
I'm not sure that he sold him out or that it had anything to do with BB's recruitment. I'd say it has more to do with proving that UT will play Freshmen to help this class and beyond.

Hopefully with all that in the rearview mirror, Poole will get a real shot this spring.
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same differance

he got a fair shot last spring and earned playing time in my opinion.ill give him credit for sticking around even after get hosed.
 
#84
#84
justingroves said:
He did run a Bama CB down in 2006
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Groves come'on that corner Castille was so overrated. I remember playing against him at a passing camp about two or three weeks after spraining my MCL. I was going by him with ease. He got to Bama because of his last name and that's it.
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#85
#85
Oku will be a true matchup problem come next year for us. He'll play the Bush role in our offense as Kiffin opens up the playbook more.
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#86
#86
sjt18 said:
I know people keep wanting to dismiss him... but Poole's few carries vs VT were one of the few things I found to be pleased with. After MH couldn't get anything going, TP ran 3 times for 15 yards.... but then CLK took him out and he disappeared again. Hardesty had 39 yards on 18 carries. I really would have liked to have seen what more Poole could have done.

I will support the coaches but it almost seems like they're afraid Poole will be successful if he gets a real shot.
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I agree. I think Poole has a chance to impress people.
 
#88
#88
Brown averaged over 5 yds a carry as a freshman.... If Williams can beat him out he will be a horse...... I hope he does
 
#89
#89
posivol said:
same differance

he got a fair shot last spring and earned playing time in my opinion.ill give him credit for sticking around even after get hosed.
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He got hosed by no one. He was hardesty's backup and 3 overall even with Williams healthy. He had a concussion and oku got his carries. Poole beat him out again in bowl practice. I think USC lite needs more fans you fit in there.
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#90
#90
totally screwed Poole this year in his zeal to play Brown, and he probably hurt the team in doing so. Brown certainly has potential and could have a very good/excellent career at UT, but he didn't ever make me sit up and go 'wow.' He's a big back who does run downhill, but as a few others have said, I didn't see much cutting ability that all great backs have. Brown reminds me of Jay Graham a bit--a speciman (big guy with speed) who racked up good, even very good career numbers but was most definitely NOT a great back because he did not spot holes very well, which is why he as an NFL flameout. Brown missed a huge hole on the UT's good first drive against florida this year--and probably cost the Vols a touchdown.

This idea that coaches don't play favorites or don't make personnel mistakes is false. Look at Kiffin & Co. putting Teague at punt returner in the first half of the year--that was OBVIOUSLY a case of the coach making a stupid decision to play one of his "prized" freshmen--even more lame because Rogan did a very good job of returning punts the year before, and it's inexplicable that this good staff wouldn't know that it's unwise to have true freshmen returning kicks. It reminded me of Fulmer--and I don't want any more reminders of his later years.
 
#91
#91
Kiffin also could have played Marsalis Teague and Nuke a lot more, but didn't. Lamarcus Thompson, even though he was pretty bad for a good part of the season, wasn't displaced by Greg King. Art Evans struggled, but you didn't see Mike Edwards all that much. I think it had a lot more to do with Tauren Poole being Hardesty Jr. and Bryce Brown being a change of pace. Also, it could be that Poole isn't better than Brown.
 
#92
#92
All this running back jazz is kind of moot considering the OL we're going to field next year. Just...tossing that out there..
 
#93
#93
posivol said:
poole.s a great speed back and needed to be used more this year.clk sold out poole to recruit b.b.
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Hi Phil Jr, nice to see you back.

Poole's problem is he's small and slow. Not sure how this translates into great speed back. If you think Poole's 4.65 would ever beat Brown's 4.32 and 20 extra pounds you are nuts. Poole runs hard but he's nothing special. Not to mention he pulled a T.O. this year on the sidelines.

He's on the bench because he is not an SEC caliber back.
 
#94
#94
VolsFanRJ said:
I guess I should know, but I don't. Who is AA?
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In seven pages of this thread, I don't believe anyone answered your question.

He's Tony Basilio's side-kick on his radio show, Alex something or another (starts with an "A" I'd guess). They refer to him as "Double-A" on the program. Young guy. I believe in his early to mid twenties. Here's his blog:

The Edge on TonyBasilio.com
 
#95
#95
Bryce Brown will be the next Adrian Peterson after he finishes his time at UT and gets a few years in the League.

Others will get their shot at the start, but it's almost like asking whether Boise deserves a shot at the title. They'd lose anyway and that's what will happen for Williams and Poole.

BB will work his tail off this fall and show up so healthy and strong in the spring, you guys will be embarassed for even questioning this.


I like Poole and Williams, and they'll get their share of touches just like BB did this year. But Bryce is the new Hardesty on this team. He'll show the same strong work ethic both on the field and off that we shoud always remember to thank Hardesty for demonstrating.

They should all work like Hardesty to give themselves the best chance. Injuries happen and the Vols will feature a heavy running game next year with a new QB.
 
#96
#96
I just thought BB looked like he was waiting on somene to hit him after he broke the LOS this year.
 
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#97
#97
volintears said:
I just thought BB looked like he was waiting on somene to hit him after he broke the LOS this year.
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The way Hardesy hits the hole so hard he made everyone who played with him at UT look timid. It's a relative comparison that unavoidable. Hardesty simply hits the whole with world class aggression. That's his MO.

Take nothing from Brown. His cuts will get better as he gains more experience and his hip gets stronger.
 
#98
#98
utmba93 said:
The way Hardesy hits the hole so hard he made everyone who played with him at UT look timid. It's a relative comparison that unavoidable. Hardesty simply hits the whole with world class aggression. That's his MO.

Take nothing from Brown. His cuts will get better as he gains more experience and his hip gets stronger.
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that seems fair.
 
#99
#99
sjt18 said:
BTW, not every highly rated back can do this. In fact, I think it is probably why most of the highly rated guys fail. They do well on the shuttle and 40 so it is assumed that they can learn to make the cuts and read holes. Creer and Riggs are examples of guys who never really showed they could do it but everyone was excited about coming in.
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Riggs was a dissappointment because he fumbled more than Arian Foster and couldn't block a slow moving 1st grader. BB fumbled approximately zero times in over 100 carries, and he had 4.55 YPC. I think you're diminishing BB's accomplishments here.
 
#100
#100
I don't care who starts, honestly. If Poole is the best option, then start him. Same goes for Oku
 
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