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#3,477
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A Miami newspaper is stating that they're out of the race, and it looks like its down to Oregon and the hometown Kansas State Wildcats. I'll try to find the link.
 
#3,480
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BB's dad just stated that the U is still very much in the picture and despite reports to the contrary, BB still has an offer for them.
 
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#3,483
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<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 6px;" valign="top">SI.com reports Bryce Brown still committed to Miami...</td><td 1="" class="" style="padding: 6px;" valign="bottom" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">Reply</td></tr></tbody></table><hr color="#cccccc" noshade="noshade"> Bryce, his father and mentor are all quoted as saying that BB is still committed to miami. So I guess none of them understand the definition of the word. Maybe they are thinking of the word interested. It has been said on here often, but the word committed is meaningless nowadays.
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is this deal crazy or what?
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#3,484
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I think we are past the point of this all even being comical.
 
#3,485
#3,485
I think that Butler will lead him to sign with whoever is most likely to continue to use his "services" in the future. Originally, I believe that his “partner” was set to be Miami, which resulted in NY Times detailing the shenanigans that they did / did not offer another of Butler’s potential player a scholarship. Sure, Miami officially came out and said that they had not, in fact, offered a scholarship to this wholly unknown player, it was only after the “offer” began to drew wider attention and outright suspicion from others that they (finally) chose to do so. This first hiccup in their relationship with Butler was not greatly exacerbated when Brown’s recruitment was subsequently shopped to other schools (in fact, he had warned them he would do this as part of his “plan”), but rather, only when it began to look as if they might not actually get him to sign. Simply, Miami was willing to play along (and look somewhat suspicious and foolish in the process) so long as they ended up with Brown. When it became unmistakably clear that they may not get him after all, the game was up. In response, Butler begins anew the search for a “partner” to replace Miami. To give him time to do so, Bryce’s announcement is moved to March 16<SUP>th</SUP>, something which they say was decided long ago, but was only announced just a few weeks ago. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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Although verbally committed for months, suddenly, a whole slew of teams begin to emerge or move to the forefront of Bryce’s radar, including Tennessee. <o:p></o:p>

Oregon, a team who has established somewhat of a pipeline into the Wichita area, becomes an ever prominent name in the mix. In another article, Butler states that he has had phone conversations from other(s) around the country who are looking to do similar training / “mentoring” arrangements in their area, and asked for his help and advice in doing so. Did anyone else notice the connection that exists between Oregon and its wealthiest / most influential booster, Phil Knight of Nike? Who better than Nike to help Butler grow a network of training facilities and elite football camps all around the country? That's the same "Nike" as you'll likely seen in, "Nike Football Training Camps" for those scoring at home. <o:p></o:p>
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Tennessee, and it’s new “all-star” recruiting coaching staff suddenly gets involved, seemingly, out of the blue. Recall Bryce’s earlier comments, saying he was wanted to sign after NSD in order to know where all of the stud o-linemen would have signed by then. Slice it however you want, and I don’t like it any more than you, but Tennessee has one of the most emaciated offensive lines in college football, and NSD did little (if anything) to alleviate those large concerns. Maybe we coach them up, maybe we move some people around, but at the end of the day, it is what it is – and it won’t be any different come March 16<SUP>th</SUP>, I am sorry to say. Brown later said that Tennessee, "doesn’t have the players to get done what they’re trying to do" on their current roster. Imagine walking into that locker room as a freshman with those comments pasted to the side of the big white elephant standing angrily in the middle of the room. Would you want to be that guy? Neither would I. Unless Mrs. Earps possesses some persuasive powers of conversion which would be sufficient to make Billy Graham blush with envy, you can likely forget that being the deciding factor, too. <o:p></o:p>
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That brings us to Kansas State, which is not only a good friend to have in the neighborhood, but his alma mater. Did anyone else find Butler’s comments on KSU to be somewhat over-the-top and out of nowhere last week? Has he ever appeared so fawning over any other school or coach than he was KSU’s Coach Snyder? Do you think some fans in the local area would be willing to change their perception of Butler if he guides Brown to sign with the local team? You bet they would, and Butler needs all of the friends he can get in Kansas right about now. It should also be noted that KSU only recently fired a coach who discouraged his boosters to support Butler’s efforts, and have now re-hired a new one (Coach Snyder) who sounds as if he not only supports Butler, but wants to move to Vermont and get the relationship legalized. I wonder if Butler sees this as an opportunity he should exploit, er, explore? Me, too.<o:p></o:p>
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Why did USC bail out, and why do I think that LSU would, too? Because not only would they not play along, they won’t even act like they would play along. They would like to have Brown, for sure, but they don't need Butler to get him. They'll simply get the next Brown, next year. Or more likely, a player of equal quality is already on their roster right now. If LSU plays ball with Butler, they become immediate players in this, and I believe, will seal the deal. I don't think that they'll feel a need to do so, a la USC, and Brown leaves both unconsidered. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
So, here's an interesting question:<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
What do the final four (4) teams that are most likely remaining (Miami, Kansas State, Oregon and Tennessee) all have in common?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Proximity to home? Same conference? Same offensive styles? New coach? Old coach? No, no, no, no and no. Well, then, what else could it be?<o:p></o:p>
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Each of the four teams are aggressively trying to either enter or restore their place amongst college football's elite - and to do so as quickly as possible. In fact, one could argue that they may each be considered somewhat desperate to do so. So, is it only desperate teams who would want Brown? No, not at all, but it may only be the desperate teams who are also willing to take Butler as part of the deal. <o:p></o:p>
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Ever notice how much they charge for those rain coat things at the stadium? It's extraordinarily higher than anywhere else you could have bought one somewhere else, and yet, they sell out of them each time it rains during a home game. I'll bet that Brian Butler could tell you why, if you don't already know.<o:p></o:p>
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There's no telling what Brown will ultimately do. He doesn't even know. Butler doesn't know. I sure as heck don't know, and neither do you, your contact, "insider", friend, guy you followed down the street, or whomever else someone cites as a “reliable source”…..including those of you who mention your “gut feelings” in all of this. While I don't know how each of your "guts” may work, I can hardly think of a worse resource for determining my level of optimism as to where an 18-year old kid may sign to play football. Personally, my gut is usually only reliable to tell me when I should eat and go to the bathroom, and little else. Heeding its "feelings" outside of those rudimentary functions is how people wake up one day and find themselves living in a van outside of Tijuana. Simply, your guts are idiots. Please, stop listening to them, or encouraging someone else to do so. If you feel the need to have some wholly unintelligent organ to tell you entirely nonsensical information in order to feel optimistic, just offer to buy the closest liberal a cup of mocha chi soy latte, crack open a fresh pack of clove cigarettes, then sit back and listen to them babble. <o:p></o:p>
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It's an 18 year old kid who's supposedly "married" to a UT hostess after one two-day visit (some visit), being mentored by a Don King wannabe - only he's somehow even shadier than the original, which I used to think was impossible – so who knows? <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
But, it sure is fun to think and talk about, huh?<o:p></o:p>
 
#3,487
#3,487
Tenacious D said:
I think that Butler will lead him to sign with whoever is most likely to continue to use his "services" in the future. Originally, I believe that his “partner” was set to be Miami, which resulted in NY Times detailing the shenanigans that they did / did not offer another of Butler’s potential player a scholarship. Sure, Miami officially came out and said that they had not, in fact, offered a scholarship to this wholly unknown player, it was only after the “offer” began to drew wider attention and outright suspicion from others that they (finally) chose to do so. This first hiccup in their relationship with Butler was not greatly exacerbated when Brown’s recruitment was subsequently shopped to other schools (in fact, he had warned them he would do this as part of his “plan”), but rather, only when it began to look as if they might not actually get him to sign. Simply, Miami was willing to play along (and look somewhat suspicious and foolish in the process) so long as they ended up with Brown. When it became unmistakably clear that they may not get him after all, the game was up. In response, Butler begins anew the search for a “partner” to replace Miami. To give him time to do so, Bryce’s announcement is moved to March 16<SUP>th</SUP>, something which they say was decided long ago, but was only announced just a few weeks ago. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Although verbally committed for months, suddenly, a whole slew of teams begin to emerge or move to the forefront of Bryce’s radar, including Tennessee. <o:p></o:p>

Oregon, a team who has established somewhat of a pipeline into the Wichita area, becomes an ever prominent name in the mix. In another article, Butler states that he has had phone conversations from other(s) around the country who are looking to do similar training / “mentoring” arrangements in their area, and asked for his help and advice in doing so. Did anyone else notice the connection that exists between Oregon and its wealthiest / most influential booster, Phil Knight of Nike? Who better than Nike to help Butler grow a network of training facilities and elite football camps all around the country? That's the same "Nike" as you'll likely seen in, "Nike Football Training Camps" for those scoring at home. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Tennessee, and it’s new “all-star” recruiting coaching staff suddenly gets involved, seemingly, out of the blue. Recall Bryce’s earlier comments, saying he was wanted to sign after NSD in order to know where all of the stud o-linemen would have signed by then. Slice it however you want, and I don’t like it any more than you, but Tennessee has one of the most emaciated offensive lines in college football, and NSD did little (if anything) to alleviate those large concerns. Maybe we coach them up, maybe we move some people around, but at the end of the day, it is what it is – and it won’t be any different come March 16<SUP>th</SUP>, I am sorry to say. Brown later said that Tennessee, "doesn’t have the players to get done what they’re trying to do" on their current roster. Imagine walking into that locker room as a freshman with those comments pasted to the side of the big white elephant standing angrily in the middle of the room. Would you want to be that guy? Neither would I. Unless Mrs. Earps possesses some persuasive powers of conversion which would be sufficient to make Billy Graham blush with envy, you can likely forget that being the deciding factor, too. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
That brings us to Kansas State, which is not only a good friend to have in the neighborhood, but his alma mater. Did anyone else find Butler’s comments on KSU to be somewhat over-the-top and out of nowhere last week? Has he ever appeared so fawning over any other school or coach than he was KSU’s Coach Snyder? Do you think some fans in the local area would be willing to change their perception of Butler if he guides Brown to sign with the local team? You bet they would, and Butler needs all of the friends he can get in Kansas right about now. It should also be noted that KSU only recently fired a coach who discouraged his boosters to support Butler’s efforts, and have now re-hired a new one (Coach Snyder) who sounds as if he not only supports Butler, but wants to move to Vermont and get the relationship legalized. I wonder if Butler sees this as an opportunity he should exploit, er, explore? Me, too.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Why did USC bail out, and why do I think that LSU would, too? Because not only would they not play along, they won’t even act like they would play along. They would like to have Brown, for sure, but they don't need Butler to get him. They'll simply get the next Brown, next year. Or more likely, a player of equal quality is already on their roster right now. If LSU plays ball with Butler, they become immediate players in this, and I believe, will seal the deal. I don't think that they'll feel a need to do so, a la USC, and Brown leaves both unconsidered. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
So, here's an interesting question:<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
What do the final four (4) teams that are most likely remaining (Miami, Kansas State, Oregon and Tennessee) all have in common?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Proximity to home? Same conference? Same offensive styles? New coach? Old coach? No, no, no, no and no. Well, then, what else could it be?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Each of the four teams are aggressively trying to either enter or restore their place amongst college football's elite - and to do so as quickly as possible. In fact, one could argue that they may each be considered somewhat desperate to do so. So, is it only desperate teams who would want Brown? No, not at all, but it may only be the desperate teams who are also willing to take Butler as part of the deal. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Ever notice how much they charge for those rain coat things at the stadium? It's extraordinarily higher than anywhere else you could have bought one somewhere else, and yet, they sell out of them each time it rains during a home game. I'll bet that Brian Butler could tell you why, if you don't already know.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
There's no telling what Brown will ultimately do. He doesn't even know. Butler doesn't know. I sure as heck don't know, and neither do you, your contact, "insider", friend, guy you followed down the street, or whomever else someone cites as a “reliable source”…..including those of you who mention your “gut feelings” in all of this. While I don't know how each of your "guts” may work, I can hardly think of a worse resource for determining my level of optimism as to where an 18-year old kid may sign to play football. Personally, my gut is usually only reliable to tell me when I should eat and go to the bathroom, and little else. Heeding its "feelings" outside of those rudimentary functions is how people wake up one day and find themselves living in a van outside of Tijuana. Simply, your guts are idiots. Please, stop listening to them, or encouraging someone else to do so. If you feel the need to have some wholly unintelligent organ to tell you entirely nonsensical information in order to feel optimistic, just offer to buy the closest liberal a cup of mocha chi soy latte, crack open a fresh pack of clove cigarettes, then sit back and listen to them babble. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
It's an 18 year old kid who's supposedly "married" to a UT hostess after one two-day visit (some visit), being mentored by a Don King wannabe - only he's somehow even shadier than the original, which I used to think was impossible – so who knows? <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
But, it sure is fun to think and talk about, huh?<o:p></o:p>
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#3,491
#3,491
Tenacious D said:
I think that Butler will lead him to sign with whoever is most likely to continue to use his "services" in the future. Originally, I believe that his “partner” was set to be Miami, which resulted in NY Times detailing the shenanigans that they did / did not offer another of Butler’s potential player a scholarship. Sure, Miami officially came out and said that they had not, in fact, offered a scholarship to this wholly unknown player, it was only after the “offer” began to drew wider attention and outright suspicion from others that they (finally) chose to do so. This first hiccup in their relationship with Butler was not greatly exacerbated when Brown’s recruitment was subsequently shopped to other schools (in fact, he had warned them he would do this as part of his “plan”), but rather, only when it began to look as if they might not actually get him to sign. Simply, Miami was willing to play along (and look somewhat suspicious and foolish in the process) so long as they ended up with Brown. When it became unmistakably clear that they may not get him after all, the game was up. In response, Butler begins anew the search for a “partner” to replace Miami. To give him time to do so, Bryce’s announcement is moved to March 16<SUP>th</SUP>, something which they say was decided long ago, but was only announced just a few weeks ago. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Although verbally committed for months, suddenly, a whole slew of teams begin to emerge or move to the forefront of Bryce’s radar, including Tennessee. <o:p></o:p>

Oregon, a team who has established somewhat of a pipeline into the Wichita area, becomes an ever prominent name in the mix. In another article, Butler states that he has had phone conversations from other(s) around the country who are looking to do similar training / “mentoring” arrangements in their area, and asked for his help and advice in doing so. Did anyone else notice the connection that exists between Oregon and its wealthiest / most influential booster, Phil Knight of Nike? Who better than Nike to help Butler grow a network of training facilities and elite football camps all around the country? That's the same "Nike" as you'll likely seen in, "Nike Football Training Camps" for those scoring at home. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Tennessee, and it’s new “all-star” recruiting coaching staff suddenly gets involved, seemingly, out of the blue. Recall Bryce’s earlier comments, saying he was wanted to sign after NSD in order to know where all of the stud o-linemen would have signed by then. Slice it however you want, and I don’t like it any more than you, but Tennessee has one of the most emaciated offensive lines in college football, and NSD did little (if anything) to alleviate those large concerns. Maybe we coach them up, maybe we move some people around, but at the end of the day, it is what it is – and it won’t be any different come March 16<SUP>th</SUP>, I am sorry to say. Brown later said that Tennessee, "doesn’t have the players to get done what they’re trying to do" on their current roster. Imagine walking into that locker room as a freshman with those comments pasted to the side of the big white elephant standing angrily in the middle of the room. Would you want to be that guy? Neither would I. Unless Mrs. Earps possesses some persuasive powers of conversion which would be sufficient to make Billy Graham blush with envy, you can likely forget that being the deciding factor, too. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
That brings us to Kansas State, which is not only a good friend to have in the neighborhood, but his alma mater. Did anyone else find Butler’s comments on KSU to be somewhat over-the-top and out of nowhere last week? Has he ever appeared so fawning over any other school or coach than he was KSU’s Coach Snyder? Do you think some fans in the local area would be willing to change their perception of Butler if he guides Brown to sign with the local team? You bet they would, and Butler needs all of the friends he can get in Kansas right about now. It should also be noted that KSU only recently fired a coach who discouraged his boosters to support Butler’s efforts, and have now re-hired a new one (Coach Snyder) who sounds as if he not only supports Butler, but wants to move to Vermont and get the relationship legalized. I wonder if Butler sees this as an opportunity he should exploit, er, explore? Me, too.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Why did USC bail out, and why do I think that LSU would, too? Because not only would they not play along, they won’t even act like they would play along. They would like to have Brown, for sure, but they don't need Butler to get him. They'll simply get the next Brown, next year. Or more likely, a player of equal quality is already on their roster right now. If LSU plays ball with Butler, they become immediate players in this, and I believe, will seal the deal. I don't think that they'll feel a need to do so, a la USC, and Brown leaves both unconsidered. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
So, here's an interesting question:<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
What do the final four (4) teams that are most likely remaining (Miami, Kansas State, Oregon and Tennessee) all have in common?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Proximity to home? Same conference? Same offensive styles? New coach? Old coach? No, no, no, no and no. Well, then, what else could it be?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Each of the four teams are aggressively trying to either enter or restore their place amongst college football's elite - and to do so as quickly as possible. In fact, one could argue that they may each be considered somewhat desperate to do so. So, is it only desperate teams who would want Brown? No, not at all, but it may only be the desperate teams who are also willing to take Butler as part of the deal. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Ever notice how much they charge for those rain coat things at the stadium? It's extraordinarily higher than anywhere else you could have bought one somewhere else, and yet, they sell out of them each time it rains during a home game. I'll bet that Brian Butler could tell you why, if you don't already know.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
There's no telling what Brown will ultimately do. He doesn't even know. Butler doesn't know. I sure as heck don't know, and neither do you, your contact, "insider", friend, guy you followed down the street, or whomever else someone cites as a “reliable source”…..including those of you who mention your “gut feelings” in all of this. While I don't know how each of your "guts” may work, I can hardly think of a worse resource for determining my level of optimism as to where an 18-year old kid may sign to play football. Personally, my gut is usually only reliable to tell me when I should eat and go to the bathroom, and little else. Heeding its "feelings" outside of those rudimentary functions is how people wake up one day and find themselves living in a van outside of Tijuana. Simply, your guts are idiots. Please, stop listening to them, or encouraging someone else to do so. If you feel the need to have some wholly unintelligent organ to tell you entirely nonsensical information in order to feel optimistic, just offer to buy the closest liberal a cup of mocha chi soy latte, crack open a fresh pack of clove cigarettes, then sit back and listen to them babble. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
It's an 18 year old kid who's supposedly "married" to a UT hostess after one two-day visit (some visit), being mentored by a Don King wannabe - only he's somehow even shadier than the original, which I used to think was impossible – so who knows? <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
But, it sure is fun to think and talk about, huh?<o:p></o:p>
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dude...can you write my term papers? :)
 
#3,492
#3,492
DownTheField243 said:
dude...can you write my term papers? :)
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I've spotted eight different errors in just skimming it over since posting it - I'd write them for you, but you'd likely fail the course and flunk out.

After that, all that would be left would be Florida Law School, and who wants to live in Gainesville?!?
 
#3,494
#3,494
Great Post. TD.

Mom stated last week KSU was in the picture, Dad wanted Miami, Bulter listed all the schools because he wanted what is best for Bulter. Brown didn't say anything.

Maybe the Pecan Log was a wedding present by Kiffin and Brown didn't like it. Why else would you go to Gatlinburg, to get married.
 
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#3,496
Let me get this straight.

Brown is now signing on 12 March vs 16 March based on the SI article in the above post.

Miami said that they were out of it but they really aren't because they pulled his offer but its still there if he wants it.

Mom wants him to go to KSU so they are now in the running.

Dad wants him to Visit UM but they are or are not in the running.

He may or may not end up at LSU this weekend on an official visit because of a death in the family.

He may still go or not go to Miami on a visit because of a death in the family.

He is married to a Vol Hostess and threw a Pecan Log out the window.

Oku is waiting on his decision and has a girl at NU (hostess) pregnant. (?)

KSU has got talent that we don't.

Bulter is in the middle of this and the family is feed up with him. Nike contracts, potential players etc.

Nobody has heard it from Brown's mouth but Tennessee, Oregon, LSU have been eliminated????????????

I think he will end up at USCw. Not.

Please clear up this bizzario world of events. Bulter has screwed up two Potential kids and 2 or 1 of the two Tennessee recruits.

If neither one signs with UTK. We should sue Bulter for loss of potential income and shut his organization down for Conflict of Interest and undue influence.
 
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