Bryce Brown (CLOSED)

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Besides that, I don't think Reggie Bush is a great example of NFL success. Maybe eventually...


The point was about Reggie Bush in college in Kiffin's system. That's precisely where Bryce would be. Thus the relevance.

Btw... can you use fewer words? It's not like you're saying anything meaningful.
 
While we're talking Brown and Bush... why not talk White and Oku.

It seems Kiffin had another RB who racked up some TD's in 2005.

Seems like plenty of room in the Kiffin offense for more than one RB to do well.
 
The point was about Reggie Bush in college in Kiffin's system. That's precisely where Bryce would be. Thus the relevance.

You mean Reggie Bush in Chow's system?

Kiffin has never built a winning system on his own. Maybe he will/can. We will have to wait and see.

Who knows how Brown is thinking about it. But, personally, I would think that uncertainty is a negative. Add to it the recent controversial behavior and it's starting to look a lot like the Rich Rod to Michigan debacle.

Btw... can you use fewer words? It's not like you're saying anything meaningful.

Sorry. I don't think I can remove any of the words without changing the meaning I intended.

The bigger question is whether or not you are able to make a compelling argument without ad hominem statements.

how are the Oregon RB's relevant to Brown?

Mike Bellotti coached all of the RBs I mentioned. He is the current head coach of Oregon. Chip Kelly, who will be taking over HC position at some point, coached Jonathan Stewart.
 
Mike Bellotti coached all of the RBs I mentioned. He is the current head coach of Oregon. Chip Kelly, who will be taking over HC position at some point, coached Jonathan Stewart.

Reggie Bush, LenDale White, Ronnie Brown, Deuce McAllister, Carnell Williams, Rudi Johnson, Heath Evans, Brandon Jacobs, Kenny Irons, John Avery, and BenJarvus Green-Ellis. Now go away.
 
And yours isn't? It's not that tough of a comparison. One guy was successful for a decade. The other was mediocre for a couple of years.

No, my argument is not based on speculation. Henry had better stats in some categories and Smith had better in others. What are you trying to say Henry was more successful at? Playing for a long time? Yes. He played longer. Gaining more yards per attempt on average? No. Smith was more successful at that as recorded in the stats.

Again, why the focus on Henry vs. Smith?

I think that Oregon's two 1000 yard rushers last season, Jonathan Stewart's success in the NFL, Jeremiah Johnson's projection to be drafted this year and LeGarrette Blount's projection to be drafted next year are all much more relevant to Bryce Brown.
 
The bigger question is whether or not you are able to make a compelling argument without ad hominem statements.


There's nothing ad hominem in pointing out an absence in cohesion related to posts on a board where fans actually read them. I'm simply trying to conserve pixels and help save the world from the massive energy wastes associated therein.

I know you're not accustomed to having other fans on the Duck boards (is their such a thing?) and may not have considered the damage you are doing to the planet.
 
No, my argument is not based on speculation. Henry had better stats in some categories and Smith had better in others. What are you trying to say Henry was more successful at? Playing for a long time? Yes. He played longer. Gaining more yards per attempt on average? No. Smith was more successful at that as recorded in the stats.

Again, why the focus on Henry vs. Smith?

I think that Oregon's two 1000 yard rushers last season, Jonathan Stewart's success in the NFL, Jeremiah Johnson's projection to be drafted this year and LeGarrette Blount's projection to be drafted next year are all much more relevant to Bryce Brown.

I think Bryce would do fine at Oregon. I think Onterrio was a second-rate NFL back at best. Travis Henry was clearly superior. Onterrio never even managed to get a carry in every game of a season.
 
Thus, we know nothing about whether he can put together a staff and win. All we know is that his staff will be significantly less accomplished than is UT's.

That actually is not true. Chip Kelly has put together winning teams his entire career, even before Oregon.

So far, he has done pretty well with the rushing game at Oregon: Chip Kelly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
That actually is not true. Chip Kelly has put together winning teams his entire career, even before Oregon.

So far, he has done pretty well with the rushing game at Oregon: Chip Kelly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh my gosh... your link says Chip was the OC at UNH. Surely, you can't credit him with having done anything in that role? What was that famous RB from UNH's name that he coached in 2005 while Kiffin was at SC?
 
We had Clawson here last year from that level? I wonder if Chip's offense will be as impressive as was Clawson's?

Is Oregon broke or what?
 
There's nothing ad hominem in pointing out an absence in cohesion related to posts on a board where fans actually read them. I'm simply trying to conserve pixels and help save the world from the massive energy wastes associated therein.

Yes, there is something ad hominem in criticizing me instead of my arguments. By all means, if you can't comprehend what I am saying, ask me to clarify. Or, just don't respond.

I'll be happy to answer your questions and/or just discuss things with those who understand what I am saying.

I think Bryce would do fine at Oregon.

That's all I'm trying to say. I only posted in this thread because someone had tried to say that Brown playing at Oregon would be a waste of time toward the NFL. I realize that people want him to go to UT here. But, that argument was nonsense.

I think Onterrio was a second-rate NFL back at best. Travis Henry was clearly superior. Onterrio never even managed to get a carry in every game of a season.

I don't think it was that clear. But, I see where you are coming from.
 
I only posted in this thread because someone had tried to say that Brown playing at Oregon would be a waste of time toward the NFL.

The truth is that given the option between UT, USC, and Miami (among several others), Oregon would be a waste of his time. It simply is NOT his best option.
 
Yes, there is something ad hominem in criticizing me instead of my arguments. By all means, if you can't comprehend what I am saying, ask me to clarify. Or, just don't respond.

I'll be happy to answer your questions and/or just discuss things with those who understand what I am saying.

Please do. I've written several that have gone unanswered that warrant the application of refined reasoning--and who better than you to apply it?

See... there's a compliment to make up for whatever you took personal in the utter destruction of your arguments here.
 
how long has he been a HC?

How long has Kiffin been an HC in NCAA? How did his last HC position end? What was his record?

We had Clawson here last year from that level? I wonder if Chip's offense will be as impressive as was Clawson's?

Is Oregon broke or what?

What are you talking about?

Can you please condense your posts? There is no need to make multiple posts if nobody else has posted anything in between. You can use the edit feature.
 

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