Brent Venables

[ThreatLevelOrange]

Smart is on his way, but what about a coach that has been at 2 smaller colleges and goes to a big time program? How has that played out?

Meyer may fit that description, as Utah was a mid major before joining the PAC10. But you’re probably thinking B Kelly, Butch, even Paul Johnson. Probably too soon to say if Willie Taggart will win big at Oregon.

Most coaches do only one stepping stone to a Power 5 job, Harbaugh and Saban for instance. And if you include moderately successful coaches, you have Briles, Sumlin, Malzahn, Dantonio, Fuente, and Mcilwain.

 

[ThreatLevelOrange]

Not to be contrary but he has ZERO HC experience and was 2-4 in those NC games. He also never seemed to make any adjustment for OJ Howard and it probably cost Clemson a NC. I would love a defensive guy too but would prefer Durkin/Doeren if we can't get Patterson.

I don’t disagree they were 2-4 in those games. But the D at Oklahoma played well enough to win 2 of the 3 he lost there. And Alabama has the best roster - on both sides of the ball. Clemson seemed willing to take their chances of Bama throwing to a player that didn’t factor into 90% of their games.

I don’t have a man crush on Venables, but they have reloaded while sending players to the NFL over the past several years. And he lost both of his DL coaches after last year. Auburn will tell you they haven’t missed a beat.

 

[JoAllan]

I know Venables is a good DC and I think he will be a fine coach; however I do not see why so many people think he is the next "big thing."

Tons of people on here complain about Chip Kelly teams not having a D. People say his Oregon teams gave up way too many points. Over his career as HC at Oregon Chips teams gave up exactly 21.5 ppg.

Over Venables past 8 seasons as DC his teams have given up exactly 20.5 ppg. I agree that is pretty good, but it is not amazing numbers...........and it is only 1 point less than those terrible D's Chip had.

Again not saying Venables isn't a good coach, just wondering why everyone thinks he is so great?

 

[give_him 6]

 

[vfl_gbo]

I have the feeling he would be Ed Orgeron 2.0. The guy has to have someone restrain him the whole game, doesn't seem like head coaching material imo

 

[OrangeSoddyDaisy]

I know Venables is a good DC and I think he will be a fine coach; however I do not see why so many people think he is the next "big thing."

Tons of people on here complain about Chip Kelly teams not having a D. People say his Oregon teams gave up way too many points. Over his career as HC at Oregon Chips teams gave up exactly 21.5 ppg.

Over Venables past 8 seasons as DC his teams have given up exactly 20.5 ppg. I agree that is pretty good, but it is not amazing numbers...........and it is only 1 point less than those terrible D's Chip had.

Again not saying Venables isn't a good coach, just wondering why everyone thinks he is so great?

The main appeal to Vols fans with Mr. Venables is not so much his coaching prowess, but the fact that out of all names being mentioned:

Fuente
Patterson
Peterson
Gruden
Kelly
Neyland
Saban
Richt
Stoops
Belichek
Leach

...his is the only one most would have to Google. That would be the third in a row and we have grown comfortable with Googlable coaches.

 

[The Vin Man]

I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory group next week to go through a list of their names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive starters on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chad Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm. Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly unlikely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.

 

[ACvol3]

Looks too much like Dooley

 

[ACvol3]

The main appeal to Vols fans with Mr. Venables is not so much his coaching prowess, but the fact that out of all names being mentioned:

Fuente
Patterson
Peterson
Gruden
Kelly
Neyland
Saban
Richt
Stoops
Belichek
Leach

...his is the only one most would have to Google. That would be the third in a row and we have grown comfortable with Googlable coaches.

Who the hell doesn't know about brent venables? He might be the best coordinator/recruiter in the country.

 

[Vol8188]

Most of the names suggested as our future coach are on the offensive side of the ball. But all coaches UT has brought in after Neyland have been offensive minded.

Like most fans, I want a proven head coach - preferably at the Power 5 level. But if we hire an assistant coach, it should be Venables. He was the DC on 6 teams that played for the National Championship. I’m dont think it’s coincidental Clemson has gone to another level once he was brought in.

He's worked or played under 3 very impressive coaches. And his ties to Snyder could make him a candidate depending on Snyders relationship with Currie

 

[OrangeSoddyDaisy]

Who the hell doesn't know about brent venables? He might be the best coordinator/recruiter in the country.

He's not being mentioned for best coordinator/recruiter. He's being mentioned to be the fourth unproven head coach in a row for the University of Tennessee and the third that is Googlable.

 

[fossilfiction]

I don’t disagree they were 2-4 in those games.

Thia is all you had to say back to him. The defenses played good enough to get to his teams to 6 NC games. Any critic of any coach that finds his way to 6 NC games has no ground to stand on, other than the lack of HC experience that is.

 

[JoAllan]

Who the hell doesn't know about brent venables? He might be the best coordinator/recruiter in the country.

NO denying he is a great recruiter, also no denying he is a good DC..........however

If I were the best DC in the country I would hope I could do better than 20.5 ppg at Clemson

especially since so many people think 21.5 ppg is horrible

 

[vfl_gbo]

I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory team next week to go through a list of names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country and when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive guys on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chris Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm. Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly likely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.

Any reason given on why Patterson or Peterson would want to leave? I keep seeing these names thrown about, they turned down the job before, what has changed?

 

[The Vin Man]

Not sure, but best guess is the current state of their programs, and less pressure and competition.

 

[Volunteer_Kirby]

More importantly he's an ace recruiter and he appears to have a knack for developing his guys. It appears he's ready - my biggest concern would be that Dabo is waiting for Saban to retire to jump to Bama, then Venables would take over an incredibly stacked Clemson roster which he has helped build. It would be a seamless transition, one which I'm sure he has thought about.

I say we throw the checkbook at him this year. Let the media think we're going after Gruden or Kelly to appease the fans until the end of the bowl season, then go all in.

 

[DaUndergroundMan]

I'd prefer a bigger name. Love his defenses.

But Venables sounds like a good name for a dog food.

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[MADISONGAVOL]

Most of the names suggested as our future coach are on the offensive side of the ball. But all coaches UT has brought in after Neyland have been offensive minded.

Like most fans, I want a proven head coach - preferably at the Power 5 level. But if we hire an assistant coach, it should be Venables. He was the DC on 6 teams that played for the National Championship. I’m dont think it’s coincidental Clemson has gone to another level once he was brought in.

Posted this very thing in several threads.dabo is offensive guy theres proof he's getting it done on his own accord and frankly defenses win championships. I moved this guy to number one after alot thought . Kelly and patterson all be great but I want a guy who can stop elite offenses .staunch defenses win big games over high power offenses with good defenses

 

[MADISONGAVOL]

NO denying he is a great recruiter, also no denying he is a good DC..........however

If I were the best DC in the country I would hope I could do better than 20.5 ppg at Clemson

especially since so many people think 21.5 ppg is horrible

Those stats under Dooley might won us a title...we were putting up35 plus point a game

 

[OrangeSoddyDaisy]

I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory group next week to go through a list of their names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive starters on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chris Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm. Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly likely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.

Let me check the Google on these two . . . back in a snap!

 

[Volunteer_Kirby]

I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory group next week to go through a list of their names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive guys on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chris Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm. Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly likely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.

Neal Brown, Scrott Frost, Chad Morris are all good names - though a bit early in their career to make the move up. I've heard rumblings that Petersen may be unhappy at Washington and may seek a more "primetime" school - but that may also just be speculation or him vying for a better contract (Butch Jones makes more than him, for reference). If it's true that Patterson is likely to leave, that would be surprise to many. Same with Fuente, he's in a really good situation at VTech. Brohm is the only name I'd be careful with - the buyout is manageable for UT's standards and the fit makes sense. I think he's a great offensive coach but I'm not sure he's worth the gamble. Does he have enough clout to recruit with the big boys? I'm not so sure.


Some names I'd like to see getting considering are Dave Doeren, Dana Holgorsen, & Frank Wilson (still early in his coaching career but a darn good recruiter - he'd be an absolute steal).

 

[OrangeSoddyDaisy]

Neal Brown, Scrott Frost, Chad Morris are all good names - though a bit early in their career to make the move up. I've heard rumblings that Petersen may be unhappy at Washington and may seek a more "primetime" school - but that may also just be speculation or him vying for a better contract (Butch Jones makes more than him, for reference). If it's true that Patterson is likely to leave, that would be surprise to many. Same with Fuente, he's in a really good situation at VTech. Brohm is the only name I'd be careful with - the buyout is manageable for UT's standards and the fit makes sense. I think he's a great offensive coach but I'm not sure he's worth the gamble. Does he have enough clout to recruit with the big boys? I'm not so sure.


Some names I'd like to see getting considering are Dave Doeren, Dana Holgorsen, & Frank Wilson (still early in his coaching career but a darn good recruiter - he'd be an absolute steal).

These are not even on Google yet! I checked!

This is what we did last time. Started lobbying for Knute Rockne, settled with Butch.

 

[The Vin Man]

Sorry...I meant to say Chad Morris. He was really high on Brohm. They think he's a great coach. Learned from Petrino, has done well at WKU and Perdue. Another guy that they really, really like, and has been mentioned on here before is Dan Mullen. They feel like he's a great coach. He's had success in the league and would take a strong look at Tennessee to get out of the state of Mississippi and the SEC West.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory group next week to go through a list of their names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive starters on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chad Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly likely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.

If he wins, I wouldn't give a damn if he never took part in any of that. Really that's where ALL of us should be as a fanbase.

 

[JoAllan]

Sorry...I meant to say Chad Morris. He was really high on Brohm. They think he's a great coach. Learned from Petrino, has done well at WKU and Perdue. Another guy that they really, really like, and has been on here before is Dan Mullen. They feel like he's a great coach. He's had success in the league and would take a strong look at Tennessee to get out of the state of Mississippi and the SEC West.

If they hire Mullen the entire state of Tennessee will puke.

if Tennessee is going to get rid of Butch.........why hire anyone who may be a gamble?

Patterson
Peterson
Chip
ECT. would not be a gamble.