BREAKING: Knoxville police investigate alleged rape involving UT football player

Another UVA type accusation from a young woman. As the Father of two daughters it disturbs me to know end that first you put yourself in these situations, but before everyone starts "knowing it all" just remember after AJ anyone would be a complete fool to put themselves in this situation. Everyone who talked to the girl at UVA said she was sincere only to find out the reverse. Just everyone put a lid on it until we know just how drunk or doped this young lady was. Ending careers is becoming a pastime. If it is true Von will pay the ultimate price.
 
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Has a Media Outlet reported this yet?
Has the KPD released a blotter report of the Crime?
Is the only source of this on the this website with BREAKING News?
How did this Thread turn into a questioning of CBJ's coaching ability?
Why hasn't any reference to any particular football player been removed?

Agenda? I asked real ones. Don't be such a coward.

My "agenda" is that UT have a coach that DOES THEIR JOB exceptionally well. That would include winning games AND maintaining control over the program. I don't doubt Jones is working as hard as he can... but this IS a problem that needs to be fixed. It is a pattern not and anomaly.

Really you disappoint....Pattern vs Anomaly.
When you have players and kids involved, you can do your job exceptionally well and still have this crap happen.

Don't you think that CBJ addressed this numerous times to the team. Stating it could happen to them, after all he had plenty of examples or do you think he just ignored it and said nothing. Gimme a break.

Kids are going to make choices on their on and no matter what the circumstances or the consequences they are going to make poor choices some of the time.
 
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It happens all over. But Knoxville media loves a good scandal and nothing is better clickbait than accusing a UT football player of a crime. If they can loop in two or three players and make it a crime spree, even better. They're not looking for facts right now-- just sensationalism.

So it's the media's fault? Really?
 
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Has a Media Outlet reported this yet?
Has the KPD released a blotter report of the Crime?
Is the only source of this on the this website with BREAKING News?How did this Thread turn into a questioning of CBJ's coaching ability?
Why hasn't any reference to any particular football player been removed?

A: No, It has now been reported by all local media.

B: Because the accused is the party named by OP.
 
Is this really the crime? When I was in school it was practically a sport to hang brain in public just to see if anyone would notice. Times have changed.

Yeah, if this is what happened, it used to be called Indecent Exposure. And girls generally took care of it with a hard slap and a well-placed kick.
 
So it's the media's fault? Really?

JMO but, I believe his point was - There are college towns where crime seems to be swept under the rug.

There are college towns where crime is reported fairly in importance.

There are college towns where the media seems to become almost 'giddy' at potential scandal.

I believe the poster was implying, our media is the latter.

Not saying I agree, just that I believe that was posters intent. Possibly worthy of legit debate. Maybe because UT is the majority of our "big" stories.
 
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You guys had me in a paradox. If I were to continue to withhold the player's name, then the thread would have been deleted and this would be even more of a crap storm of a thread. I posted what I was told by people very close to me and what I observed. According to her, there was simply no question, the students here aren't dumb; we all know what he looks like.

Agree
 
Another UVA type accusation from a young woman. As the Father of two daughters it disturbs me to know end that first you put yourself in these situations, but before everyone starts "knowing it all" just remember after AJ anyone would be a complete fool to put themselves in this situation. Everyone who talked to the girl at UVA said she was sincere only to find out the reverse. Just everyone put a lid on it until we know just how drunk or doped this young lady was. Ending careers is becoming a pastime. If it is true Von will pay the ultimate price.

I have news for you - your daughters will have sex with someone who isn't their husband at some point. In fact, it's quite likely that they'll have at least a couple of drunken one night stands with random men.

Hopefully, none of these men will be raping them. But if your own daughter was raped while drunk, would you continue to blame her for it - or might you suddenly consider the possibility that even women who drink don't deserve to be raped?
 
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WTF is going on in Knoxville?? How many UT athletes in the past 12-18 months have been accused of sexual misconduct or domestic violence? Somebody need to get a friggin handle on this or start pulling scholarships and sending people's azzes back home.

Firing squad maybe?
 
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According to the story we are being told, he exposed his genitals to her in a bathroom after he tried to kiss her and she declined.

Still a better love story than "Twilight", IMO
 
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A: No, It has now been reported by all local media.

B: Because the accused is the party named by OP.

a. Thanks not in Knoxville so have no clue what the media is reporting.

b. That sucks guess the OP felt it was his civic duty to report in on Volnation.
 
WTF is going on in Knoxville?? How many UT athletes in the past 12-18 months have been accused of sexual misconduct or domestic violence? Somebody need to get a friggin handle on this or start pulling scholarships and sending people's azzes back home.

To Butch's credit, he has been quite good about dismissing players in this situation.

However, there's no question that there is a problem on this team. It isn't enough to react to rape accusations after the fact - Butch must do more to prevent them from happening. These have happened on his watch, and as much as I like and respect what he's done with the team, the consistent drumbeat of these problems falls at his feet and his alone.
 
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The funny thing is... when players were getting in trouble all the time in Fulmer's waning years... I argued that it wasn't the HC's fault too. Then he was fired. Between Kiffin and Dooley, those types of problems declined... now they appear to be returning.

Oh really? Kiffin's entire first class was basically in prison or dismissed from the team. What you just said here is absolute BS
 
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Originally Posted by VolAce:
According to the story we are being told, he exposed his genitals to her in a bathroom after he tried to kiss her and she declined.

Still a better love story than "Twilight", IMO

Peyton Manning and the Mooning incident. I guess genitals are different.....

Womens or men's bathroom or private residence.
 
I have news for you - your daughters will have sex with someone who isn't their husband at some point.In fact, it's quite likely that they'll have at least a couple of drunken one night stands with random men.

Hopefully, none of these men will be raping them. But if your own daughter was raped while drunk, would you continue to blame her for it - or might you suddenly consider the possibility that even women who drink don't deserve to be raped?

YOUR daughters might, but not everyone's will. Some have standards.
 
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Originally Posted by VolAce:
According to the story we are being told, he exposed his genitals to her in a bathroom after he tried to kiss her and she declined.

Still a better love story than "Twilight", IMO

Hmm, that's a different story all together. Still not good but nowhere near as bad as what is being reported.
 
Oh really? Kiffin's entire first class was basically in prison or dismissed from the team. What you just said here is absolute BS

Agreed and didn't Kiffin have an accident himself. DUI type event swept under the rug.

Dooley covered up quite a bit with players bad choices. Out of control.

Two coaches with a high tolerance level versus a coach with basically a zero tolerance level.
 
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