Breaking inside story about QB situation and Crompton

#76
#76
BearCat204 said:
I am not attacking you personally, but :whatever:

I couldnt disagree with you more, to say that the determination of who starts behind center is Clawson's is so far from the truth that it is humorous. This QB selection is Fulmers and Fulmers alone
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Agreed.
 
#77
#77
superdave1984 said:
You can't seriously believe this right?
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um yeah, why wouldnt the QB coach be the one to decide who is quaterback is?? it is time for fulmer to go, but you can not blame everything on him. all we had to do was get a first down against auburn to get close enough to kick a field goal. bad play after bad play the whole fourth quarter. no screens, no draws, no slants, no outs. why not run the ball 3 times in a row on one of the drives. clawson is not helping at all with his playcalling. look how many times we passed the ball on 3rd and short this season. almost every time. run the ball
 
#78
#78
CICEROMESSIAH said:
um yeah, why wouldnt the QB coach be the one to decide who is quaterback is?? it is time for fulmer to go, but you can not blame everything on him. all we had to do was get a first down against auburn to get close enough to kick a field goal. bad play after bad play the whole fourth quarter. no screens, no draws, no slants, no outs. why not run the ball 3 times in a row on one of the drives. clawson is not helping at all with his playcalling. look how many times we passed the ball on 3rd and short this season. almost every time. run the ball
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Screen: G-Gun to Lucas Taylor, dropped.
Draw: Crompton 3 times, Foster once, nothing.
Run 3 times in a row: Well when you run twice in a row for 2 yards and it's 3rd and 8, then there's really no use in trying it again.
Outs: We tried so many times, but Crompton either threw it out of bounds or threw a go route to no one.

Get off of Crompton's jock.
 
#79
#79
CICEROMESSIAH said:
um yeah, why wouldnt the QB coach be the one to decide who is quaterback is?? it is time for fulmer to go, but you can not blame everything on him. all we had to do was get a first down against auburn to get close enough to kick a field goal. bad play after bad play the whole fourth quarter. no screens, no draws, no slants, no outs. why not run the ball 3 times in a row on one of the drives. clawson is not helping at all with his playcalling. look how many times we passed the ball on 3rd and short this season. almost every time. run the ball
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Crompton fumbled the ball against FL and Auburn when they were trying to run it. The one against Auburn cost us the game. Calling screens, outs and slants wouldn't help either unless G. Jones was open, because Crompton don't look for anyone else. Crompton can't do anything right. He is the center of the offense and is killing us, and Fulmer is killing us by keeping him in there.
 
#80
#80
CICEROMESSIAH said:
um yeah, why wouldnt the QB coach be the one to decide who is quaterback is?? it is time for fulmer to go, but you can not blame everything on him. all we had to do was get a first down against auburn to get close enough to kick a field goal. bad play after bad play the whole fourth quarter. no screens, no draws, no slants, no outs. why not run the ball 3 times in a row on one of the drives. clawson is not helping at all with his playcalling. look how many times we passed the ball on 3rd and short this season. almost every time. run the ball
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Running the ball 3 straight times against an 8 man box is a good way to be successful on offense.
 
#81
#81
The only thing that solves this problem id to get rid of Fulmer.
 
#82
#82
This only tells us what we already know about Fulmer. He interferes too much with the offense and he should just leave it alone. It's ironic at how conservative he is considering that he was making some daring calls and plays as the interim HC.
 
#83
#83
Vol Mania 21 said:
I guess, I was intrigued by all the motion and spread at the beginning of the ucla game. now it seems we are back to old school.
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perhaps thats because the qb couldnt figure out the more intricate plays and theyve had to dumb down the system. trouble is, he's not getting the dumb down version either.

every time we hit 3rd and ... i cringe because i know crompton's not going to get the ball where it needs to go. i keep waiting for an ainge-like pass that somehow splits the coverage and gets the first down. usually to lucas taylor over the middle.

i hate it for crompton, and maybe fulmer sat there and promised him time and feels obligated to fulfill that promise, but its time for a qb change. or any change for that matter.

im just tired of seeing receivers (warren, taylor, briscoe have all been caught on tv) shake their heads when they know theyre in the right place but the pass is terribly off - or when theyre wide open and the ball goes somewhere else.
 
#85
#85
Why have Clawson on the payroll if Fulmer is just going to veto everything he says? Waste of money to have coaches who aren't allowed to coach.
 
#86
#86
UTLCA said:
Screen: G-Gun to Lucas Taylor, dropped.
Draw: Crompton 3 times, Foster once, nothing.
Run 3 times in a row: Well when you run twice in a row for 2 yards and it's 3rd and 8, then there's really no use in trying it again.
Outs: We tried so many times, but Crompton either threw it out of bounds or threw a go route to no one.

Get off of Crompton's jock.
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No....Crompton sucks!
 
#88
#88
Keep Clawson and get a new HC! Let the OC run HIS offence.
If JC, Nick, or BJ is not his man, get a QB that fits Clawsons system. Go after the top qb commits, and tell them they can come to UT and play from day 1! I like Clawson...but it's hard to put a square peg in a round hole. He needs a chance to work his offence.
 
#89
#89
yeah he does.......i would rather have a jr high QB in there then JC. at least when he messes up he has an excuse, but with JC he has nothing. if you think this isnt JCs fault you need to be put in a mental institution.
 
#90
#90
CICEROMESSIAH said:
um yeah, why wouldnt the QB coach be the one to decide who is quaterback is?? it is time for fulmer to go, but you can not blame everything on him. all we had to do was get a first down against auburn to get close enough to kick a field goal. bad play after bad play the whole fourth quarter. no screens, no draws, no slants, no outs. why not run the ball 3 times in a row on one of the drives. clawson is not helping at all with his playcalling. look how many times we passed the ball on 3rd and short this season. almost every time. run the ball
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I can honestly say from your comment you dont follow football much sir/ma'am. Although it was hardly ever third and short I dont beleive that trying to run the ball and third and 3 or 4 is a good call seeing how they loaded up to stop the run in the second half. Clawson IMO did an outstanding job of play calling. I think everyone on the offensive side of the ball was giving it there all. But when you dont have a QB who can make simple ten yard throws and doesnt pay attention to what the play is then thats not Clawson at all, nor do i even see how it could be. I have been to 2 games and i like what im seeing from the offense except at QB. I see 2 sometimes three guys wide open with there hand out wanting the ball and he ends up throwing to the primary receiver. This is not a clawson problem but a Crompton problem
 
#92
#92
When getting creamed on a 3rd and long play in a game you lost is the highlight of your play, you are not necessarilly tough you are just not very good.
 
#93
#93
Shouldn't surprize anyone, UCLA game was Fulmer's offense he'd been running for years.

The same ole .... "OMG we're ahead ok guys LET'S PLAY NOT TO LOSE.... OK BREAK!!!!"

But as we all know they lose...
 
#94
#94
Ok, I know Clawson has been hindered so far by Crompton. Maybe Clawson did see that Crompton was not the right guy for the job early on. BUT that doesn't excuse Clawson for asking JC to throw the ball 40+ times in the UCLA game. There was no excuse for that considering how well we were running it. You know Fulmer wasn't calling for the offense to air it out.
 
#95
#95
I tried to stomach the replay yesterday of the Auburn game and I just about lost it. One of the worst ever Coaching Decisions or Lack Of in UT history period!!!

Webster Dictionary
Blunder: 1 to move clumsily - 2 to make a foolish mistake - 3 to do poorly - 4 see replay of 2008 Auburn & Tennesse Game; see also Fulmer
 
#96
#96
ReeceBobby said:
Ok, I know Clawson has been hindered so far by Crompton. Maybe Clawson did see that Crompton was not the right guy for the job early on. BUT that doesn't excuse Clawson for asking JC to throw the ball 40+ times in the UCLA game. There was no excuse for that considering how well we were running it. You know Fulmer wasn't calling for the offense to air it out.
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Very good point.

Although the trend after 3 coordinators is UT has yet to establish a consistent ground game since o4. Only consistant variable is cpf.
 
#97
#97
Although JC has not played well, we have had some others not perform as well as they should...starting with special teams/kicking...our defensive schemes against ucla second half (I still want to throw up in my mouth when I think of that debacle)...fumbles and penalties at crucial points in the game...failing to convert when we have the ball within 10 yards of touchdown...and although our Dline looked much better against Auburn, they were not that impressive in other games...game planning...game adjustments...not getting the ball into our gamebreakers hands...

However, with that said we should still be 3 - 1 with an average performance by our QB.
And I will ADMIT I was looking very forward to Crompton and thought he would at worst be a little above average. Obviously I was wrong, at least in the first 4 games.
 
#98
#98
gcb/hoosiervol said:
Although JC has not played well, we have had some others not perform as well as they should...starting with special teams/kicking...our defensive schemes against ucla second half (I still want to throw up in my mouth when I think of that debacle)...fumbles and penalties at crucial points in the game...failing to convert when we have the ball within 10 yards of touchdown...and although our Dline looked much better against Auburn, they were not that impressive in other games...game planning...game adjustments...not getting the ball into our gamebreakers hands...

However, with that said we should still be 3 - 1 with an average performance by our QB.
And I will ADMIT I was looking very forward to Crompton and thought he would at worst be a little above average. Obviously I was wrong, at least in the first 4 games.
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we would be 4-0 with an average QB
 
#99
#99
Volswithboobs said:
Why have Clawson on the payroll if Fulmer is just going to veto everything he says? Waste of money to have coaches who aren't allowed to coach.
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I would virtually guarantee that every HC in BCS football has a say in who the starting QB is and retains veto authority. I'm NOT saying his decision not to start giving Stephens reps was a good one only that all HC's do the same thing. Do you think Auburn's OC changed QB's without Tuberville's blessing... or command?

BTW, whoever compared Stephens and Coleman to Rick Clausen et al is off base. It may not have been your intent... but both of the current guys are much more physically talented than either Clausen. Both were highly recruited. Stephens could have easily been Michigan's starter right now.
 
#100
#100
ReeceBobby said:
Ok, I know Clawson has been hindered so far by Crompton. Maybe Clawson did see that Crompton was not the right guy for the job early on. BUT that doesn't excuse Clawson for asking JC to throw the ball 40+ times in the UCLA game. There was no excuse for that considering how well we were running it. You know Fulmer wasn't calling for the offense to air it out.
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Yes there was. By most accounts, JC played well in practice and Clawson had every reason to believe he was just cold/nervous and would warm up as the game went along.

Clawson rightly recognized and tried to exploit the same weaknesses that BYU blistered UCLA with the next week. He rightly thought that what he saw in practice would translate into game ability... It didn't.
 
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