Brandon Lopez not using 5th year of eligibility here

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SeniorDrill said:
There is no if there. Chiles did not measure up nor did Punter both according to Tyndall. Even said that Chiles was more of a 2 man. He railed exclusively on Punter being a 2 man not a point guard. You can look that up, too. BRANDON LOPEZ was the starter until he was injured and Josh had to be put in that position. But boy would people have wondered why he didn't play before? You see, that is the one and only reason he was attacked so viciously. It would have been disastrous for you and others like you if he had succeeded after sitting on the bench behind inconsistent starters at the PG position and hardly ever seeing the court. It really showed you had absolutely no concern about how successful this basketball team was as long as it didn't have BL as the point guard.
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I confess, wins mean nothing to me. Championships, upsets, screw em all. All I wanted is to see is someone other than Lopez at the point... :thud:
 
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Vols410 said:
I confess, wins mean nothing to me. Championships, upsets, screw em all. All I wanted is to see is someone other than Lopez at the point... :thud:
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Then please explain why, as someone else said, why do you guys fall all over each other trying to say there was no way he could have been the starting point guard every time his name.is mentioned? None of you had any idea of how good he was this year. Coach T did.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
None of you had any idea of how good he was this year. Coach T did.
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If that is the case, and we still have no PG, why is CDT just letting him walk out the door. If he is this potential program savior as you seem to view him, wouldn't CDT put forth a little more effort to keep him around next year?
 
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SeniorDrill said:
There is no if there. Chiles did not measure up nor did Punter both according to Tyndall. Even said that Chiles was more of a 2 man. He railed exclusively on Punter being a 2 man not a point guard. You can look that up, too. BRANDON LOPEZ was the starter until he was injured and Josh had to be put in that position. But boy would people have wondered why he didn't play before? You see, that is the one and only reason he was attacked so viciously. It would have been disastrous for you and others like you if he had succeeded after sitting on the bench behind inconsistent starters at the PG position and hardly ever seeing the court. It really showed you had absolutely no concern about how successful this basketball team was as long as it didn't have BL as the point guard.
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What do you mean there is no "IF"??? It's the first word of the quote you posted.

And you're right, we'd all have rather seen Tennessee fail and fall on its face than see Brandon Lopez start at PG. Real sensible argument you have there.
 
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JohnnyD1024 said:
You don't have to tout other programs to troll on here.
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Guess I don't understand the source of the discord...I don't believe Brandon Lopez was a singular talent that just missed his opportunity. But if someone else has that opinion, I don't start a thread to argue that point with them.
 
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butchna said:
Guess I don't understand the source of the discord...I don't believe Brandon Lopez was a singular talent that just missed his opportunity. But if someone else has that opinion, I don't start a thread to argue that point with them.
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I think the difference is that he isn't trying to pass it off as opinion. He is passing it off as fact, and uses vague innuendo and now, VN posters' opinions as support/proof. He then gets belligerent when someone disagrees with him and calls those who disagree cult members, Lopez haters, and suggests that we'd sacrifice the good of the team to not see BL start at PG.

His act isn't quite as innocent as you're making it out to be.
 
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butchna said:
Guess I don't understand the source of the discord...I don't believe Brandon Lopez was a singular talent that just missed his opportunity. But if someone else has that opinion, I don't start a thread to argue that point with them.
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Maybe because he presents everthing he says as fact when it isn't. Or it could be when he is presented with facts, he resorts to name calling. Or perhaps it's because he hijacks so many threads with his "opinion" even when it has nothing to do with anything.
 
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Fair enough...I don't spend enough time in here to judge...so I won't. :hi:
 
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cncchris33 said:
If that is the case, and we still have no PG, why is CDT just letting him walk out the door. If he is this potential program savior as you seem to view him, wouldn't CDT put forth a little more effort to keep him around next year?
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Didn't you read the other posts? He is leaving because of the mean, horrible, and degrading things VN said about BL.

I really hope you are getting the sarcasm because I laid it on really thick. :)
 
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cncchris33 said:
What do you mean there is no "IF"??? It's the first word of the quote you posted.

And you're right, we'd all have rather seen Tennessee fail and fall on its face than see Brandon Lopez start at PG. Real sensible argument you have there.
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Once again I have to correct you. The "if" is not attributable to Tyndall. It is the writer's "if". Go back and read it. You have to know how closely I followed all of this. Donnie Tyndall never said anything but positive things about Brandon Lopez running the point. He said plenty about both Chiles and Punter being 2 guards and not point guards. Remember after you guys had Chiles being the guy and next it was Punter after Chiles was injured. In the practices, it was always Lopez running the point all the way up to the time he was injured. The other two didn't measure up when they tried it. So when Brandon was injured, Coach T had to go to Josh because Punter could not do it. He has seen hardly any action at the point when Josh is playing. Here's the kicker! All of you have hollered all season if only we had a point guard. We had one but none of you wanted him!!
 
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butchna said:
Guess I don't understand the source of the discord...I don't believe Brandon Lopez was a singular talent that just missed his opportunity. But if someone else has that opinion, I don't start a thread to argue that point with them.
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Hey, Butchna. I never said he was a singular talent. I only said he had worked his way into the starting position. You may recall that it all started when BTO proclaimed that there was no way a walk-on could be the starting point guard for Tennessee. That was the battle cry that the others followed. I only made the observation that it was likely he would be. When the other two blew their chance, it became more likely then tragedy struck the young man in a goal he had worked tirelessly to achieve.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Hey, Butchna. I never said he was a singular talent. I only said he had worked his way into the starting position. You may recall that it all started when BTO proclaimed that there was no way a walk-on could be the starting point guard for Tennessee. That was the battle cry that the others followed. I only made the observation that it was likely he would be. When the other two blew their chance, it became more likely then tragedy struck the young man in a goal he had worked tirelessly to achieve.
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It's just your opinion. You still don't have a clue about coachspeak.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think the difference is that he isn't trying to pass it off as opinion. He is passing it off as fact, and uses vague innuendo and now, VN posters' opinions as support/proof. He then gets belligerent when someone disagrees with him and calls those who disagree cult members, Lopez haters, and suggests that we'd sacrifice the good of the team to not see BL start at PG.

His act isn't quite as innocent as you're making it out to be.
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Bingo.
 
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I bet that Lopez would have played 5-10 minutes per game spelling Chiles if things would have played out as Donnie had hoped.

I really was pulling for him. Austin-East used to dominate basketball in Knoxville. I always pull for those guys. And I'm a cracker from the west side.

BTW, Lopez was the best dressed person in the TBA during the USCe game last weekend. I expect that he will be very successful in his career. He seems to be a very bright young man.
 
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On the court Brandon appeared to be a step slow and struggled in Cuonzo's defense. I think that he would have been able to perform better in Donnie's zone. And a fundamentally sound point guard would have gotten minutes, even if not the quickest guy on the court.
 
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kevino said:
I agree with butchna , what's it matter what SD thinks of Lopez ?
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The issue is that you are asking us to respect, or at the very least, tolerate his opinion (which he states as fact), yet he has never done the same. If someone posts in disagreement, he resorts to demeaning and talking down to them because he "knows" and they don't.
 
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Dallasbowlin said:
A optimist over somebody who is "butt hurt" over a coach leaving because he got his feelings hurt, jmo

Btw I hate the word "but hurt" but can't think of anything
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Aren't they very similar though? BTO wildly supports Martin, SD wildly supports Tyndall.

If Tyndall were fired, or left for another school, don't you think SD would be defending him tooth and nail much the same as BTO has with Martin?
 
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cncchris33 said:
The issue is that you are asking us to respect, or at the very least, tolerate his opinion (which he states as fact), yet he has never done the same. If someone posts in disagreement, he resorts to demeaning and talking down to them because he "knows" and they don't.
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This. It's also why very few take him serious.
 
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