#BoycottNRA

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

NRA picked up hundreds of thousands of new members.

Delta lost a huge fuel tax credit.

Cops got a crap ton of overtime "protecting" marchers.

All this thanks to useful idiots who were embraced, encouraged, funded, furnished with signs and media access, and transported by the liberals.

They spent a ton of money to pay for this, and got new NRA members and Delta's fuel. Oh...and overtime for cops they secretly hate.

And accomplished nothing. Go figure.

The ironically named Dicks’ profits are way down as well.

 

[luthervol]

If this is what you’re talking about, once again, your facts are ****ty.

New information about IHOP shooting - Cleveland 19 News Cleveland, OH

It's not. It was a factitious name and an event that did not happen. The point is, we do not know that it did not happen because murder was illegal.

Stated another way....we will never know how many people were stopped because of the illegality, we only know of the ones who were not stopped.

 

[luthervol]

Do you know anyone in law enforcement?

A few. None extremely close.

 

[BeecherVol]

A few. None extremely close.

Next time you get a chance ask one how hard it is to get heroin.

I doubt it varies too much.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

It's not. It was a factitious name and an event that did not happen. The point is, we do not know that it did not happen because murder was illegal.

Stated another way....we will never know how many people were stopped because of the illegality, we only know of the ones who were not stopped.

And we will never know how many lives are saved daily because of the presence of a firearm. The study I linked (which was commissioned by Obama btw) gives a good idea of the number.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

We do not agree. Legalizing would increase the rate of usage. Many of the newly addicted would resort to crime to pay for their legal drug.

Why would legal heroin increase usage? Do you think a lot of level headed people don’t use heroin because it’s illegal?

 

[luthervol]

There are millions that avoid it, or at least do it a lot less because of the illegality.

That sounds good but you have no way to back that up.

Of course I don't. The number is unknowable. I only know how it effects me, my family, and friends. The rest is just an extrapolation.

So you don't know but you know how it effects you, your family and friends?

How does that work?

Are we discussing the same thing? Laws keeping people from drinking and driving?

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Not surprising.

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[luthervol]

NRA picked up hundreds of thousands of new members.

Delta lost a huge fuel tax credit.

Cops got a crap ton of overtime "protecting" marchers.

All this thanks to useful idiots who were embraced, encouraged, funded, furnished with signs and media access, and transported by the liberals.

They spent a ton of money to pay for this, and got new NRA members and Delta's fuel. Oh...and overtime for cops they secretly hate.

And accomplished nothing. Go figure.

They accomplished plenty. The needle moved substantially. Plus they were happy to give LEO overtime.

 

[luthervol]

And we will never know how many lives are saved daily because of the presence of a firearm. The study I linked (which was commissioned by Obama btw) gives a good idea of the number.

True. Which is why no one has a desire to take a person's right to own a gun for self defense away.

I'll repeat that for you.....No one is trying to take anyone's right to own a gun for self defense away.

THAT IS NOT THE MOTIVE!!!!!!

 

[luthervol]

Why would legal heroin increase usage? Do you think a lot of level headed people don’t use heroin because it’s illegal?

Yes. Many current users were once level headed.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

True. Which is why no one has a desire to take a person's right to own a gun for self defense away.

I'll repeat that for you.....No one is trying to take anyone's right to own a gun for self defense away.

THAT IS NOT THE MOTIVE!!!!!!

Rubbish. It’s always been the goal.

 

[allvol123]

True. Which is why no one has a desire to take a person's right to own a gun for self defense away.

I'll repeat that for you.....No one is trying to take anyone's right to own a gun for self defense away.

THAT IS NOT THE MOTIVE!!!!!!

So you are just here to legislate motives.


That would be a cluster.....

 

[BeecherVol]

Are we discussing the same thing? Laws keeping people from drinking and driving?

We are. Or better, how the laws don't prevent it.

You threw out millions don't drink and drive because of the law to try and prove a point that you then conceded there was no way anyone could know.

You then shifted it in the same post to how it effects you and yours. My question was how that works? Or how do you know that effects you?

 

[luthervol]

Rubbish. It’s always been the goal.

Utter BS. That has never been the goal. Right wing propaganda scare tactics.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Utter BS. That has never been the goal. Right wing propaganda scare tactics.

Feinstein would ban all guns ...if she could - YouTube

 

[luthervol]

We are. Or better, how the laws don't prevent it.

You threw out millions don't drink and drive because of the law to try and prove a point that you then conceded there was no way anyone could know.

You then shifted it in the same post to how it effects you and yours. My question was how that works? Or how do you know that effects you?

Because there are numerous times I drink and don't drive or drive and don't drink even though doing both would have been my choice had it not been illegal.

 

[BeecherVol]

True. Which is why no one has a desire to take a person's right to own a gun for self defense away.

I'll repeat that for you.....No one is trying to take anyone's right to own a gun for self defense away.

THAT IS NOT THE MOTIVE!!!!!!

Didn't you not too long ago claim that was part of the chronological compromise process?

 

[luthervol]

Feinstein would ban all guns ...if she could - YouTube

She's obviously gotten wiser with age.

 

[Boston Vol]

True. Which is why no one has a desire to take a person's right to own a gun for self defense away.

I'll repeat that for you.....No one is trying to take anyone's right to own a gun for self defense away.

THAT IS NOT THE MOTIVE!!!!!!

So why did House Democrats introduce legislation that would have banned 90% of all guns?

 

[BeecherVol]

Because there are numerous times I drink and don't drive or drive and don't drink even though doing both would have been my choice had it not been illegal.

It's your choice either way. The law doesn't remove the choice. It only adds a repercussion.

Did you need the law to tell you it wasn't a good idea?

 

[luthervol]

Didn't you not too long ago claim that was part of the chronological compromise process?

I don't think so.

 

[volfanhill]

It's your choice either way. The law doesn't remove the choice. It only adds a repercussion.

Did you need the law to tell you it wasn't a good idea?

Of course he does

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

She's obviously gotten wiser with age.

Yep, she’s learned the death by a thousand cuts tactic. She votes against her constituents rights to carry weapons, yet, has a ccw permit herself. Not to mention the armed guards she has. She’s human garbage.

 

[luthervol]

It's your choice either way. The law doesn't remove the choice. It only adds a repercussion.

Did you need the law to tell you it wasn't a good idea?

Would you pay your taxes if it wasn't illegal not to?