Blacklisted coaches - Kiffin and Leach

#51
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If Fulmer doesn't have a legitimate conversation with Kiffin and Leach, than we know he isn't thinking about the best interest of Tennessee football; only thinking about himself!
 
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Vol Main said:
Bull. There are no excuses in business. If you want to make a deal, then you propose it and close it. Fulmer probably does not know how to do that. Currie did not. Most people do not. Still, you decide what you want and go for it.
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It's a two way street.

You can't make someone love you.

This is not a draft and you own the rights to whatever coach you happen to want.

Not every failure in landing a coach is on the athletic department.

In addition, the bell that was rung this past week can't be unrung. It has consequences.
 
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volmanbill said:
I would expect the new AD to aim higher. Kiffin burned his own bridges. Leach? A week ago 90% would have laughed at that. Only after massive incompetence in the AD did he become attractive.
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Lot of people liked Leach from the start out of the non-Gruden, Patterson, or Petersen group.
 
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I had no idea Kiffin and Leach were black...oh, hell no...:eek:lol:

GO AD FULMER AND GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#56
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Kiffen deserves to be blacklisted. Leetch IDk. Probably ok but administration is NOW taking a risk avoidance approach with prospective coaches. Probably why Tee isn't going to make the big leap from OC to SEC HC.
 
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volmanbill said:
I would expect the new AD to aim higher. Kiffin burned his own bridges. Leach? A week ago 90% would have laughed at that. Only after massive incompetence in the AD did he become attractive.
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90% is way too high. There was significant support for Leach well before the Schiano cluster.
 
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TheSpartan said:
It feels like the best two coaches available who also have expressed desire to be here have been blacklisted (though Leach left and re-entered the blacklist over the course of a few days).

How do we make it clear to our administration Vol fans want both of these guys over most other clown coaches they could come up with? Do we continue to riot if they cannot bring us a quality name when they are clearly there for the taking?
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Fulmer should get over Kiffin left for his dream job. All you got to do Fulmer is look in the mirrow at the last guy who Tennessee gave a second chance to. They brought you back didn't they?
 
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Folks, the Kiffin thing.

This isn't a situation where Fulmer was upset about losing his job, but liked and respected Kiffin. Then, he felt betrayed like all Vol fans by Kiffin leaving Tennessee.

He couldn't stand Kiffin and was repulsed by Kiffin then. He probably popped a cork on a bottle of champagne when Kiffin left.

And it will be over his dead body that Kiffin has anything to do with the University of Tennessee ever again.

I'm not sure of much, but I'll take all bets on this one.
 
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99gator said:
It's a two way street.

You can't make someone love you.

This is not a draft and you own the rights to whatever coach you happen to want.

Not every failure in landing a coach is on the athletic department.

In addition, the bell that was rung this past week can't be unrung. It has consequences.
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Any good salesman/PR guy could spin all this easily.
 
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99gator said:
Folks, the Kiffin thing.

This isn't a situation where Fulmer was upset about losing his job, but liked and respected Kiffin. Then, he felt betrayed like all Vol fans by Kiffin leaving Tennessee.

He couldn't stand Kiffin and was repulsed by Kiffin then. He probably popped a cork on a bottle of champagne when Kiffin left.

And it will be over his dead body that Kiffin has anything to do with the University of Tennessee ever again.

I'm not sure of much, but I'll take all bets on this one.
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Since Knoxville isn't close to fresh seafood, we can add this guy to the blacklist.
 

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volme said:
Getting someone better than Leach is something I’ll have to see to believe. I know Fulmer in charge excites a bunch of you but he’s never made a hire that suggest he knows what he’s doing.
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Bingo.
 
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Spawn said:
Gruden for leading us on during two coaching searches? Or Tee for turning us down last time for a position?

If we are playing this game. Smdh
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Gruden never led us on. Posters on this board continue to try to live in a make believe world. The fan base is the reason established coaches and Manning will not come to Tennessee to be our head coach.
 
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TheSpartan said:
It feels like the best two coaches available who also have expressed desire to be here have been blacklisted (though Leach left and re-entered the blacklist over the course of a few days).

How do we make it clear to our administration Vol fans want both of these guys over most other clown coaches they could come up with? Do we continue to riot if they cannot bring us a quality name when they are clearly there for the taking?
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Could you please leave the admins a little note that says this Vol fan doesn't want Kiffin anywhere near UT? Tia.
 
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Spawn said:
Gruden for leading us on during two coaching searches? Or Tee for turning us down last time for a position?

If we are playing this game. Smdh
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I'm pretty sure Butch brought in Tee to placate the fan base and then didn't give him a serious offer.
 
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If you need an actual list on paper to know Kiffin is being blacklisted, you need help getting home at night.
 
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99gator said:
Folks, the Kiffin thing.

This isn't a situation where Fulmer was upset about losing his job, but liked and respected Kiffin. Then, he felt betrayed like all Vol fans by Kiffin leaving Tennessee.

He couldn't stand Kiffin and was repulsed by Kiffin then. He probably popped a cork on a bottle of champagne when Kiffin left.

And it will be over his dead body that Kiffin has anything to do with the University of Tennessee ever again.

I'm not sure of much, but I'll take all bets on this one.
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I would not take that bet, but Phil needs to think about hiring the best coach available to win games. That includes beating Alabama. Anything short of that is not doing his job.
 
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TheSpartan said:
It feels like the best two coaches available who also have expressed desire to be here have been blacklisted (though Leach left and re-entered the blacklist over the course of a few days).

How do we make it clear to our administration Vol fans want both of these guys over most other clown coaches they could come up with? Do we continue to riot if they cannot bring us a quality name when they are clearly there for the taking?
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What makes you think Leach is blacklisted?
 
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volmanbill said:
I would expect the new AD to aim higher. Kiffin burned his own bridges. Leach? A week ago 90% would have laughed at that. Only after massive incompetence in the AD did he become attractive.
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Leach was never laughable for realists. A team that failed to score an offensive TD for 15 should be thrilled to get Leach.
 
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I suppose we'll simply keep having these same posts over and over. As for influencing our AD on the next hire, no thanks. I trust Phil and he knows a heck of a lot more than I about getting this right. No more protests, no more pity parties.
 
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