BJ Coleman (Merged)

#76
#76
SamRebel35 said:
He was the only qb during the orange and white game that didn't throw any ill advised passes. His passes were not always perfectly on target, but he didn't throw into double or triple coverage either. If Stevens and Crompton don't get the mental part of this football thing worked out, then Coleman is going to be the guy.
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right on :rock:
 
#77
#77
Coleman played OK today. Hope he continues to improve, we had a chance to meet him and Stephens after the game. They both signed my daughters jersey and seem like good kids. That said I feel like Crompton is going to be QB1.
 
#78
#78
I feel like the more BJ's footwork improves, the closer he'll be to starting. He is a leader and from what I've read the other players believe he is the guy. Yesterday was just a practice, I know, but anybody that watches the replay this evening and don't say the BJ is a better player is kidding themself.
 
#79
#79
All 3 have a lot of work to do before September. If BJ can make plays like he did at the start of the 4th quarter, then I say give him the job. However, a few of his throws a few plays before that, left me wondering what so special about this guy.
 
#80
#80
BJ also threw another TD to Gerald Jones in the 2nd half that was called back because of holding or something. Did the white team end up scoring that possession? I think they did, but I'm not sure...
 
#81
#81
Sorry guys. Coleman just doesn't have the arm strength to run the offense. If you were at the game this would have been apparent, no matter how much you're in the guy's jock.
 
#82
#82
I know a former Knoxville Webb QB that doesn't have a particularly strong arm. He's been doing OK in the NFL for some time now. A little less lively of an arm is easier to overcome than not having what it takes between the ears.
 
#83
#83
BJ Coleman is nowhere near Chad Pennington, sorry.

There are relative degrees of arm strength. Coleman has a much worse arm than he does.
 
#84
#84
It's not that he can't throw a 60 yard go route. He has trouble getting anything on a 20 yard crossing pattern
 
#85
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UTLCA said:
Sorry guys. Coleman just doesn't have the arm strength to run the offense. If you were at the game this would have been apparent, no matter how much you're in the guy's jock.
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I was at the game. Everyone around me was talking about how sharp Coleman looked. And I heard a WR talking after the game about how well he played. You don't have to have a very strong arm to play QB in college. I would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have a smart QB with a weaker arm than someone who has a strong arm, but can't keep a pass out of the Ds hands and has looked terrible in every game siuation for the last 2 years...
 
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SamRebel35 said:
He was the only qb during the orange and white game that didn't throw any ill advised passes. His passes were not always perfectly on target, but he didn't throw into double or triple coverage either. If Stevens and Crompton don't get the mental part of this football thing worked out, then Coleman is going to be the guy.
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That is exactly what i saw, on a couple passes I think he missed judge how deep the recievers were, but they were still good decisions. He knew where he wanted to go with the football, and he was reading the defense. The other two quarterbacks did not read the defense and held on to the ball way too long. Coleman may not have the biggest arm of the bunch, but he definantely has the mental game down enough to be our starting quarterback. Crompton looked lost like always, and nick just looked like he hadnt played football in awhile (which is some what understandable). IMO coleman is a gamer, the complete opposite of crompton. After watching this game I really a NO faith in crompton, I know he is supposedly doing good in practice but he was last year also. There is no carry over for him. IMHO it has to be coleman or stephens(if he gets his act together). I think the play on the goal line where coleman side stepped gerald williams and found hancock in the corner of the endzone really defines what kind QB he can be for us, like I said earlier he just seems to be a gamer and we all know the other two are not.
 
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UTLCA said:
Sorry guys. Coleman just doesn't have the arm strength to run the offense. If you were at the game this would have been apparent, no matter how much you're in the guy's jock.
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Ainge didnt have that much better, who cares if you can throw it 60 yards if its always in the dirt, over the recievers heads, or to the other team?
 
#88
#88
Sorry UTLCA, but Crompton and Stephens have #:!* for brains....they are too dumb to start.
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#89
#89
So I finally got to see the interview. He sounds like a coach. "Heck of a job" was thrown around a lot. Throw back phrase from Coach Fulmer. Impressed nonetheless.
 
#90
#90
I thought he looked a little better than Crompton passing the ball, but my buddy and I felt that the offense seemed to flow a little better when Crompton was in. Even though he looks slightly worse passing the ball, the misdirection and play action seems to work better with Crompton at QB. He does sell the play action pretty well.

It seemed like the playbook was pretty limited. We saw about 10-15 plays for the most part. I liked what I saw though. A heavy reliance on the running game, and using that to set up some play action and short to intermediate passing game. The rollouts seem to work because all of our QBs are pretty mobile, and its a pretty easy read for the QB to make.
 
#91
#91
Crompton, for whatever reason, is just scared. He hesitates before he throws passes and makes slow/poor decisions at qb, which has been proven over and over.
 
#92
#92
i've taken a lot of flack for this, but I believe at some point during the season, BJ will be the starting QB and won't give it up
 
#93
#93
I liked his comment when asked why he always performed better in the scrimmages than he did in practice and his answer was something like this

In practice, you're going to have mistakes. You're going to throw interceptions, make bad throws or bad reads, but that's why it's practice. You learn from each and every mistake you make in practice and that helps you prepare for the real game.
 
#95
#95
BJ Coleman had better stats then Crompton in both scrimmages. Don't know how much of that was due to playing more against the 2nd team defense.
 
#96
#96
sMi.Spite said:
It seemed like the playbook was pretty limited. We saw about 10-15 plays for the most part. I liked what I saw though. A heavy reliance on the running game, and using that to set up some play action and short to intermediate passing game. The rollouts seem to work because all of our QBs are pretty mobile, and its a pretty easy read for the QB to make.
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I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but if our QB is primarily going to hand the ball off and do a few rollouts and play action passes, why was Kiffin not interested in Taj Boyd?

It's not like he wouldn't be able to do that extremely well with his speed. Just seems like a bad decision Kiffin is going to regret.
 
#97
#97
oklavol said:
I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but if our QB is primarily going to hand the ball off and do a few rollouts and play action passes, why was Kiffin not interested in Taj Boyd?

It's not like he wouldn't be able to do that extremely well with his speed. Just seems like a bad decision Kiffin is going to regret.
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That's a good question. I wish the rules weren't so prohibitive against a coach commenting on a recruit. I'm sure the coaches have some logic behind what they are doing (at least I hope so), but it would be nice to know what it is.
 
#98
#98
oklavol said:
I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but if our QB is primarily going to hand the ball off and do a few rollouts and play action passes, why was Kiffin not interested in Taj Boyd?

It's not like he wouldn't be able to do that extremely well with his speed. Just seems like a bad decision Kiffin is going to regret.
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Tajh isn't playing any football in 2009.
 
#99
#99
oklavol said:
I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but if our QB is primarily going to hand the ball off and do a few rollouts and play action passes, why was Kiffin not interested in Taj Boyd?

It's not like he wouldn't be able to do that extremely well with his speed. Just seems like a bad decision Kiffin is going to regret.
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Not sure that what you saw Saturday, is what Kiffin wants the O to look like in the future. He has to deal with what he has right now. Got a feeling it will look a lot different later on.
 
#100
#100
oklavol said:
BJ Coleman had better stats then Crompton in both scrimmages. Don't know how much of that was due to playing more against the 2nd team defense.
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like Kiffin said in the post game, he also had the 2nd string OL, WR's, and RB's with him. Maybe he would have done better with the 1st team? who knows?
 
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