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#326
tvolsfan said:
My point is you guys probably all loved Manning, and were hoping he would win the whole time. Just because the media may at times show bias, doesn't mean it is always wrong. Woodson had an unbelievable year that year, and it was hard to not pick him that year.
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You have admitted that the Hypesman is a subjective award, so why are you arguing?
 
#327
#327
You're right. If not for the fact that Manning was far and away the best player in college football that year, Woodson may have warranted consideration. But since Manning was around....
 
#328
#328
tvolsfan said:
My point is you guys probably all loved Manning, and were hoping he would win the whole time. Just because the media may at times show bias, doesn't mean it is always wrong. Woodson had an unbelievable year that year, and it was hard to not pick him that year.
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So did Manning. Seriously, arguing that Woodson was a better football player that year than Manning really is ridiculous.
 
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#329
The media bias was never more apparent in my eyes than this year for Brady Quinn. Every good team Notre Dame played he was garbage and they got worked...yet he still made it to New York...I'm not saying he isn't good but the only reason he was in the conversation is because the media pumped him up so much at the beginning of the year...
 
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rwemyss said:
So did Manning. Seriously, arguing that Woodson was a better football player that year than Manning really is ridiculous.
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If it was that crazy, then he probably wouldn't have won. The media didn't draw Woodson's name out of a hat and say, "Hey, let's get him the Heisman because we hate Manning and everybody in the South."
 
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#331
rwemyss said:
So did Manning. Seriously, arguing that Woodson was a better football player that year than Manning really is ridiculous.
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Especially if you are arguing about a subjective award for something that you never even saw.
 
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#333
tvolsfan said:
If it was that crazy, then he probably wouldn't have won. The media didn't draw Woodson's name out of a hat and say, "Hey, let's get him the Heisman because we hate Manning and everybody in the South."
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No, they picked him based on ratings. Do you realize how much greater a population density you have up there than down here???
 
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#334
Another thing, try running a poll about this on a Michigan board and see if you get similar results. I'm sure people here are more bias to Manning than the media to Woodson.
 
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#338
Another thing, try running a poll about this on a Michigan board and see if you get similar results. I'm sure people here are more bias to Manning than the media to Woodson.
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That's because Michigan fans are a bunch of drunken inbred gutter trash.

And yet they're so far above Ohio State fans that it's crazy.
 
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#339
tvolsfan said:
Another thing, try running a poll about this on a Michigan board and see if you get similar results. I'm sure people here are more bias to Manning than the media to Woodson.
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I can only imagine what they would say. Heck, they were still arguing that they deserved to play in the BCS championship after losing to tOSU.
 
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#342
Ohio Vol said:
That's because Michigan fans are a bunch of drunken inbred gutter trash.

And yet they're so far above Ohio State fans that it's crazy.
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I actually heard that phrase used towards Michigan fans while visiting Columbus for the Michigan/Ohio State game this past season.
 
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#344
tvolsfan said:
Another thing, try running a poll about this on a Michigan board and see if you get similar results. I'm sure people here are more bias to Manning than the media to Woodson.
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Even better... ask a 'bama board since they don't have a horse in the race, yet they HATE UT.

I bet you they say Manning and it isn't even close. :whistling:
 
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rwemyss said:
Even better... ask a 'bama board since they don't have a horse in the race, yet they HATE UT.

I bet you they say Manning and it isn't even close. :whistling:
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Poll anyone outside the South who paid attention to football that year or spent anytime looking at the year of either of the 2 guys and see what they say.
 
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#347
tvolsfan said:
Poll anyone outside the South who paid attention to football that year or spent anytime looking at the year of either of the 2 guys and see what they say.
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Why would we need to ask anybody that spent time actually watching the 2 players play when we can ask you?
 
#348
#348
tvolsfan said:
Poll anyone outside the South who paid attention to football that year or spent anytime looking at the year of either of the 2 guys and see what they say.
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Why would we do that? In the BCS era, 7 of 9 national championships* have come from what's generally referred to as "The South". Why venture into the land of inferior football to ask what they think?

*it's actually 8, but I figure Ohio State idiots will clamor if I don't recognize them instead of the true 2002 champions, the University of Miami
 
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#349
Ohio Vol said:
Why would we do that? In the BCS era, 7 of 9 national championships* have come from what's generally referred to as "The South". Why venture into the land of inferior football to ask what they think?

*it's actually 8, but I figure Ohio State idiots will clamor if I don't recognize them instead of the true 2002 champions, the University of Miami
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It's 8... Miami was robbed.
 
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