Bernie Sanders Thread

#401
#401
Kingston Vol said:
Stealing is a "propaganda-ish" word, isn't it?

But no, it's pretty simple.

The raise in taxes would pay, in this scenario, for Bernie's 5 million new infrastructure jobs - something both left and right would agree needs major repair. Giving 5 million new people good paying jobs would allow them to buy more goods - thus the middle class and the economy would be stronger.

You also give people who are more likely to spend more buying power by increasing the EIC.
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What happens when those infrastructure jobs are complete? 5 million unemployed.

You can't take money out of the private economy, launder it through the federal bureaucracy, use it to pay for temporary jobs and expect the economy to improve. It didn't work for FDR and it won't work today.
 
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#402
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Kingston Vol said:
Stealing is a "propaganda-ish" word, isn't it?

But no, it's pretty simple.

The raise in taxes would pay, in this scenario, for Bernie's 5 million new infrastructure jobs - something both left and right would agree needs major repair. Giving 5 million new people good paying jobs would allow them to buy more goods - thus the middle class and the economy would be stronger.

You also give people who are more likely to spend more buying power by increasing the EIC.
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In other words.. Transfer oayments
 
#403
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Kingston Vol said:
I really don't think he wins or has much of a shot - I just like him more than Hillary. As I've said before, I'll hope for a miracle, but assume when we hit the voting booths in November 2016 that it'll be Bush vs. Clinton.
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I hope it isn't bush v clinton. I may go on a media fast if it is those 2 morons.
 
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MG1968 said:
What happens when those infrastructure jobs are complete? 5 million unemployed.

You can't take money out of the private economy, launder it through the federal bureaucracy, use it to pay for temporary jobs and expect the economy to improve. It didn't work for FDR and it won't work today.
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Im trying to understand why anyone could not see how this ends.
 
#410
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MG1968 said:
What happens when those infrastructure jobs are complete? 5 million unemployed.

You can't take money out of the private economy, launder it through the federal bureaucracy, use it to pay for temporary jobs and expect the economy to improve. It didn't work for FDR and it won't work today.
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Our infrastructure does need a major overall. Thousands of bridges need to be repaired or replaced, our electrical grid is 20th century etc. Their is enough infrastructure upgrades to employee people for many years.

We do not need a tax raise to make the necessary improvements. We need a Congress and White House to use better judgment in spending.

I am okay with my tax dollars going to repair or replace bridges. I am not okay with it going to study the mating habits of some insect or fish. Jmo.
 
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Gramps said:
Our infrastructure does need a major overall. Thousands of bridges need to be repaired or replaced, our electrical grid is 20th century etc. Their is enough infrastructure upgrades to employee people for many years.

We do not need a tax raise to make the necessary improvements. We need a Congress and White House to use better judgment in spending.

I am okay with my tax dollars going to repair or replace bridges. I am not okay with it going to study the mating habits of some insect or fish. Jmo.
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Spot on.. The Government is currently collecting record tax receipts
 
#412
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Gramps said:
Our infrastructure does need a major overall. Thousands of bridges need to be repaired or replaced, our electrical grid is 20th century etc. Their is enough infrastructure upgrades to employee people for many years.

We do not need a tax raise to make the necessary improvements. We need a Congress and White House to use better judgment in spending.

I am okay with my tax dollars going to repair or replace bridges. I am not okay with it going to study the mating habits of some insect or fish. Jmo.
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Watch out Cramps. You are going to get drummed out of the democrat corps talking like that.
 
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Gramps said:
Our infrastructure does need a major overall. Thousands of bridges need to be repaired or replaced, our electrical grid is 20th century etc. Their is enough infrastructure upgrades to employee people for many years.

We do not need a tax raise to make the necessary improvements. We need a Congress and White House to use better judgment in spending.

I am okay with my tax dollars going to repair or replace bridges. I am not okay with it going to study the mating habits of some insect or fish. Jmo.
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Don't knock bug porn til you've tried it..
 
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Gramps said:
Our infrastructure does need a major overall. Thousands of bridges need to be repaired or replaced, our electrical grid is 20th century etc. Their is enough infrastructure upgrades to employee people for many years.

We do not need a tax raise to make the necessary improvements. We need a Congress and White House to use better judgment in spending.

I am okay with my tax dollars going to repair or replace bridges. I am not okay with it going to study the mating habits of some insect or fish. Jmo.
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Want to improve and build infrastructure? Get the fing EPA and unions out of the mix, both add millions if not billions to the cost of infrastructure construction.

I must have missed all of the hydroelectric proposals from the green energy crowd.
 
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Gramps said:
Our infrastructure does need a major overall. Thousands of bridges need to be repaired or replaced, our electrical grid is 20th century etc. Their is enough infrastructure upgrades to employee people for many years.

We do not need a tax raise to make the necessary improvements. We need a Congress and White House to use better judgment in spending.

I am okay with my tax dollars going to repair or replace bridges. I am not okay with it going to study the mating habits of some insect or fish. Jmo.
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Shovel ready jobs.. Oh wait
 
#417
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Gramps said:
Our infrastructure does need a major overall. Thousands of bridges need to be repaired or replaced, our electrical grid is 20th century etc. Their is enough infrastructure upgrades to employee people for many years.

We do not need a tax raise to make the necessary improvements. We need a Congress and White House to use better judgment in spending.

I am okay with my tax dollars going to repair or replace bridges. I am not okay with it going to study the mating habits of some insect or fish. Jmo.
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I agree with this 100%. We also need to find ways to increase spending on renewable energy resources. Use the sun, wind and rain to our advantage.
 
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Gramps said:
Our infrastructure does need a major overall. Thousands of bridges need to be repaired or replaced, our electrical grid is 20th century etc. Their is enough infrastructure upgrades to employee people for many years.

We do not need a tax raise to make the necessary improvements. We need a Congress and White House to use better judgment in spending.

I am okay with my tax dollars going to repair or replace bridges. I am not okay with it going to study the mating habits of some insect or fish. Jmo.
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That right there is key to whole topic IMO. The only way that happens through the government (as it is) is with higher taxes. And at that, the efficiency will never be there.
 
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