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Roustabout said:
Truecar, like most of these sites is trying to drive hits to their page, where they then load ads.

True cars, so called 'true price' was essentially their opinion. Dealers had to subscribe, otherwise, no matter how competitive a dealers pricing, the consumer would never know. It is basically a way to force dealers to pay and buy market share, and not really help customers. TC's pricing was arbitrary at best.

The customer thinks that TC is working for them, trying to find the 'best deal,' when in reality dealers were simply buying market exposure. In many cases the customers where driven towards dealers not even in their contiguous market, because they had bought that market.

KBB, Edmunds, NADA, provide information, and you can buy ad spots on their page, but they don't direct the customer to select dealers based simply on a dealer paying a fee.
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Disappointing to see the issues true car is having. I loved it as a resource.
 
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Nerd-Vol said:
You should see the Mclaren M81 SVO mustang.

You ever heard of that one, Crew?

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Yup.
 
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New Ridgeline is finally set to hit dealers beginning this week.

I'm seriously considering one. Can't wait to see it and drive it.
 
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volinbham said:
New Ridgeline is finally set to hit dealers beginning this week.

I'm seriously considering one. Can't wait to see it and drive it.
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I loved the previous generation. Hopefully Honda sticks with it so they'll still be available when I'm ready for something new in a 4 or 5 years.
 
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WallyBalls said:
I loved the previous generation. Hopefully Honda sticks with it so they'll still be available when I'm ready for something new in a 4 or 5 years.
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I've watched a ton of review videos - if you liked the old one you should love this one.

Only problem is the pricing and the packages. Looks like you have to option way up to even get a rear slider.
 
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Nerd-Vol said:
I'm surprised too. But then again, these companies don't get rid of something because they were selling too many.
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I see Elements and XB's everywhere. Scion got rid of the XB and then look what happened, Scion is out of business. These companies have too many cars that look exactly the same. Toyota is taking 2 of the Scion models and rebadging them. So now rather than Toyota releasing something cool and different, they're basically going to have 4 cars that look exactly the same.
 
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Nerd-Vol said:
I'm surprised too. But then again, these companies don't get rid of something because they were selling too many.
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Sad truth. A lot of interesting, quirky but well thought out vehicles just don't catch on with people. Like the Element. I loved them, the interior was brilliant to me. Almost every single one of my friends took one look and went "Ugh...why is it so ugly?" At that point, I can show all the great features it has, but the battle is lost.



VolAllen said:
I see Elements and XB's everywhere. Scion got rid of the XB and then look what happened, Scion is out of business. These companies have too many cars that look exactly the same. Toyota is taking 2 of the Scion models and rebadging them. So now rather than Toyota releasing something cool and different, they're basically going to have 4 cars that look exactly the same.
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Lets say they brought back the Element. It may sell 10k-15k to the most loyal buyers out there that love the car. But that barely moves the needle for a manufacturer. As cool and interesting as they are, they're looked at as taking up space from other cars that move better and have better margins.


And I wouldn't say Scion "went out of business". More so that the experiment wrapped up, lacking sufficient results to warrant moving forward. But I'm totally with you on 'corporate design language' or the common styling most companies go with now. Its so bland.

And a random aside...I'm a Toyota guy. I have a soft spot for Honda's as well, and I would give anything for Toyota to not be so conservative and have an ounce of the willingness to step outside the norm (Ridgeline, Element, etc) that Honda as.
 
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I like my XB a lot as it makes a great work vehicle. Sad to see them go..
 

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VolAllen said:
I see Elements and XB's everywhere. Scion got rid of the XB and then look what happened, Scion is out of business. These companies have too many cars that look exactly the same. Toyota is taking 2 of the Scion models and rebadging them. So now rather than Toyota releasing something cool and different, they're basically going to have 4 cars that look exactly the same.
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Which 4 are those? The Scion FRS/Toyota GT86 looks nothing like a Camry/Corolla/Avalon/Yaris and the little 5-door wagon resembles a Prius C, but that's about it.
 
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MG1968 said:
Which 4 are those? The Scion FRS/Toyota GT86 looks nothing like a Camry/Corolla/Avalon/Yaris and the little 5-door wagon resembles a Prius C, but that's about it.
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Out of every car that you just mentioned, the only one that looks significantly different is the FRS. Which in Japan, has always been the GT86. The Scion xB is also a Toyota in Japan, called the bB. Perfect opportunity for Toyota to do something cool, and instead they now have basically 4 different versions of a Camry.
 
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VolAllen said:
Out of every car that you just mentioned, the only one that looks significantly different is the FRS. Which in Japan, has always been the GT86. The Scion xB is also a Toyota in Japan, called the bB. Perfect opportunity for Toyota to do something cool, and instead they now have basically 4 different versions of a Camry.
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I see your point, and Nerd's. Toyota's lineup of cars is as bland as puffed rice cereal and skim milk.

I'd still drive a Toyota before I'd drive anything from Nissan (short of a 370 or GT-R).
 
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VolAllen said:
Element was a 4 cylinder.
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Right. I'm talking about vehicle size. Customers often buy a car with size in mind.

If you were to list them from small to large you would have:

HR-V
Element (with v6)
CR-V
Pilot.

I think an element with a V6 would cost as much as a CR-V. A HR-V currently is only a bit less than a CR-V. I just don't see where a V6 element slots in. That's all. Would be a cool vehicle though.
 
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