Automobilia etc....

honestly if we are going to play the price game then what's the point?

the cars are not in the same universe.

the Cayman is right in line with Z06; should we compare the Focus and Vette?

No. Let's compare the cobra gt1000 and the zo6.
 
honestly if we are going to play the price game then what's the point?

the cars are not in the same universe.

the Cayman is right in line with Z06; should we compare the Focus and Vette?

You did phrase it as though the cayman was a viable alternative to the focus.


That said. It's a shame that I already put a deposit on the new Miata. Should have waited for that cayman!
 
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You did phrase it as though the cayman was a viable alternative to the focus.


That said. It's a shame that I already put a deposit on the new Miata. Should have waited for that cayman!

What color? Options? Vert?
 
You did phrase it as though the cayman was a viable alternative to the focus.


That said. It's a shame that I already put a deposit on the new Miata. Should have waited for that cayman!

That was not my intent at all people - why does everything have to be an Internet fight.

I made the reference since that was the car currently being discussed and I just learned of the Cayman. It was a throwaway introduction to the post.

They are completely different markets, cars, etc.

No one would be shopping the Focus vs the Cayman and I wasn't suggesting they should be compared.
 
Let's clarify.

Ford Focus - rocket hatch; value; if I'm 35 or under and want a performance car with utility. You don't need to be rich.

Cayman GT4 - borderline supercar; value; age independent if you want sublime handling, more than enough power and a track car you can drive daily. You need a six figure income to be in the game.

No one is confusing these two or comparing these two.
 
...heh. The internet is serious business.

it was a segway to the Cayman.

Chill brahs.
 
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It's great that Ford is finally bringing the Focus RS to America, but I still think I'd rather have a Golf R or Audi S3.
 
Why can't they do a hot fusion?

320hp awd fusion, 7 speed manual.

The old V6 Fusion Sport was close, too bad Ford chose not to endow the new Fusion design with an Ecoboost V6 or even the naturally aspirated V6 from the current Mustang.
 
In other news, Chevy has redesigned the Volt to look like a Honda Civic and it will still suck at being both a car and a hybrid.
 
Anyone remember when top gear compared the camaro ss to the Merc AMG e45? They concluded with saying that the Merc felt like twice the car.

they sorta glossed over the price gap.


Hahaha
 
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cool lets compare the mustang to a ferrari next time

Well.... I know why you typed it, but the truth is far scarier than fiction.


2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 Photos and Info – News – Car and Driver


The V-8 engine skips turbo- or supercharging in favor of a sky-high redline—there’s no official number yet, but we’ve heard 8000-plus rpm—and that fancy flat-plane crank, a trick favored by Ferrari.

For those unfamiliar, a flat crankshaft design involves attaching the crank pins at 180-degree intervals rather than the usual 90; this allows for a firing order that bounces back and forth between the two cylinder banks, providing evenly spaced exhaust pulses.
 
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Some people should read the Car and Driver article before commenting.

The Smart Money – Feature – Car and Driver

These are not our typical comparison tests. Here we are looking mostly for relative value, which is a slippery thing. Determining winners in these pairings meant trying to reconcile price with goodness—i.e., if a car is three times as expensive as its rival, it must be three times as fun, rewarding, and well-executed to beat it. Two numbers in boxes at the end of each story keep score: The one on the left expresses the price ratio between the two cars; the one on the right reveals what we're calling the "experience" factor, based on a modified version of our Final Results scores. If the price box holds the larger number, cheap wins; if the experience number is larger, expensive does. Simple, right?
 

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