Austin Rogers

#76
#76
No one can make a strong enough argument for Austin Rogers for me to believe that he is a "good" player. I still think the dude is a turd, and shouldn't be playing in the SEC, especially for the team I love to cheer for and spend thousands of dollars for each year. Austin, if you're reading this, you may be the nicest guy on the planet, but everytime I see you on the field, I almost vomit.
 
#77
#77
orangetanker11 said:
No one can make a strong enough argument for Austin Rogers for me to believe that he is a "good" player. I still think the dude is a turd, and shouldn't be playing in the SEC, especially for the team I love to cheer for and spend thousands of dollars for each year. Austin, if you're reading this, you may be the nicest guy on the planet, but everytime I see you on the field, I almost vomit.
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YouTube - Austin Rogers helmetless against Cal, 2007

Yeah he sure looks like a "turd" out there. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
 
#78
#78
bdarnell said:
YouTube - Austin Rogers helmetless against Cal, 2007

Yeah he sure looks like a "turd" out there. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
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Yes. I saw that game, I saw that play. Apparently, you didn't read what I posted. No one can make me believe that Rogers is a good player. I firmly believe that this guy shouldn't be playing for us, and definitely shouldn't be starting. Nice try though.
 
#79
#79
He's got heart. You can't judge many of the WRs for the season they had last year. He made some big plays in '07. With that said, I definitely think there are at least 4 or 5 better receivers on this team.
 
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#80
govols87 said:
He's got heart. You can't judge many of the WRs for the season they had last year. He made some big plays in '07. With that said, I definitely think there are at least 4 or 5 better receivers on this team.
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Yes, the kid has heart. I will give him that. But I totally agree that there are 4-5 better recievers on this team.

Gerald Jones
Denarius Moore
Josh Briscoe
Ahmad Paige
Quinton Hancock

4 of those guys are definitely better, maybe Hancock.
 
#81
#81
Rogers has produced more than any of those guys including Briscoe. Paige? Paige is about to be 3 years in the program and apparently still doesn't have his head screwed on straight. Hancock isn't close or he would have played ahead of AR. Moore shows promise but the only thing he's proven he's good at so far is catching a couple of deep balls.

I'd say there are at least 4-5 guys with more innate talent. But as we've frequently discussed, it matters more what you do with that talent than whether you have it or not. AR is talented enough to make up the difference through intelligence and effort.

People try to act like the guy has no talent at all. The facts inconveniently get in the way of that conclusion.
 
#82
#82
orangetanker11 said:
No one can make a strong enough argument for Austin Rogers for me to believe that he is a "good" player.
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Why? That sounds alot like closed minded bias.
I still think the dude is a turd, and shouldn't be playing in the SEC, especially for the team I love to cheer for and spend thousands of dollars for each year. Austin, if you're reading this, you may be the nicest guy on the planet, but everytime I see you on the field, I almost vomit.
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That's your personal problem and has virtually no tether to the reality of the guy's performance.

I'm in no way claiming he's great but you simply MUST be an SEC worthy receiver if you can post the kind of stats he had in 07.
 
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#83
sjt18 said:
Rogers has produced more than any of those guys including Briscoe. Paige? Paige is about to be 3 years in the program and apparently still doesn't have his head screwed on straight. Hancock isn't close or he would have played ahead of AR. Moore shows promise but the only thing he's proven he's good at so far is catching a couple of deep balls.

I'd say there are at least 4-5 guys with more innate talent. But as we've frequently discussed, it matters more what you do with that talent than whether you have it or not. AR is talented enough to make up the difference through intelligence and effort.

People try to act like the guy has no talent at all. The facts inconveniently get in the way of that conclusion.
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Now, it's gonna be hard for anyone to argue that he "doesn't have talent." The kid is playing football at the collegiate level. I just don't think he has enough of it to be a starter for our beloved Vols. Nice try trying to convince me, but as I said earlier, it won't happen.
 
#84
#84
"If" the new staff can get the talent out of these other guys then AR has seen his best days as a Vol. OTOH, he has earned the right to play and produced while he was in there... Everyone has a right to their own opinion but not their own facts... Fact is he's produced.
 
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sjt18 said:
"If" the new staff can get the talent out of these other guys then AR has seen his best days as a Vol. OTOH, he has earned the right to play and produced while he was in there... Everyone has a right to their own opinion but not their own facts... Fact is he's produced.
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First of all, my OPINION is that there is no way this guy should be a starter, much less play. In "a" season, he had over 50 catches. Amazing. If this guy thinks that he should be a starter, then he needs to work his rear off, catch clutch passes and not WR screens all day, and prove me and several hundred fans wrong. I just don't see it happening.
 
#86
#86
That is not a problem. At least you know you are close-minded. I dont think anybody is trying to change your mind. No point in arguing with somebody that uses no logic. Rogers is certainly not the next coming of Willie Gault. But he put up numbers his sophomore year and you counter with "he is not good enough to even play in the SEC." So basically you are saying "I know when I look outside that the sky is blue but my opinion is that its just not and you cant change my mind." That is fine.
 
#87
#87
How did he "put up numbers" his sophomore season? In 14 games, the dude averaged 4 rec for 44.5 yards per game. How is this "putting up numbers." That's real serious damage he did in 2007, especially considering his QB that year threw for 3,522 yards.
 
#88
#88
You have contradicted yourself many times and you have no facts to support your argument. It's really quite entertaining, but also kind of depressing.
 
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bdarnell said:
You have contradicted yourself many times and you have no facts to support your argument. It's really quite entertaining, but also kind of depressing.
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4 Rec for 44.5 YPG is not "producing" or "putting up numbers." The bottom line is that this guy, in no way ever, has been a good reciever. He, in no way, should be considered for a starting job. This isn't an argument I am trying to support, I am merely expressing my opinion that Austin Rodgers is not worthy of a starting job, nor has he ever been.

P.S. When did I contradict myself? I am curious to know considering I have been bashing Rodgers this entire time.
 
#90
#90
ptclaus98 said:
I don't think that's the case, but I do think Zach has more potential as a complete WR.
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I've seen Zach play a few times and how you can see him as a better football player is beyond me. He's fast, has heart, and is a good kid but he's not a a better football player than Austin. I really don't think either are SEC quality receivers but I don't do the recruiting.
 
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orangetanker11 said:
4 Rec for 44.5 YPG is not "producing" or "putting up numbers." The bottom line is that this guy, in no way ever, has been a good reciever. He, in no way, should be considered for a starting job. This isn't an argument I am trying to support, I am merely expressing my opinion that Austin Rodgers is not worthy of a starting job, nor has he ever been.

P.S. When did I contradict myself? I am curious to know considering I have been bashing Rodgers this entire time.
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If you don't think averaging 50 YPG in the SEC is good enough to be on the field, you're football knowledge isn't quite up to par.

You contradicted yourself by calling him a "turd" and saying you want to vomit everytime he gets on the field, and then saying he has talent and that he averages 50 YPG.
 
#92
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orangetanker11 said:
4 Rec for 44.5 YPG is not "producing" or "putting up numbers." The bottom line is that this guy, in no way ever, has been a good reciever. He, in no way, should be considered for a starting job. This isn't an argument I am trying to support, I am merely expressing my opinion that Austin Rodgers is not worthy of a starting job, nor has he ever been.

P.S. When did I contradict myself? I am curious to know considering I have been bashing Rodgers this entire time.
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Wow. How many more yards does he need to get before you get your head out of your rear?
 
#93
#93
bdarnell said:
If you don't think averaging 50 YPG in the SEC is good enough to be on the field, you're football knowledge isn't quite up to par.

You contradicted yourself by calling him a "turd" and saying you want to vomit everytime he gets on the field, and then saying he has talent and that he averages 50 YPG.
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Ok. In reality, and in my opinion, no one can deny that he has "some sort" of talent. I mean, he does play SEC football. No one can take that away from him. However, in my opinion, and several hundred thousand more fans, the dude is a turd and should not be on the field at all other than special teams. 50 YPG may be "tolerable" at other schools, but we should never make it "tolerable" at the University of Tennessee. Especially since: A) he is a starter, and B) since there are other guys behind him who I'm sure would put up better numbers given the chance.
 
#94
#94
Jason Witten averages 54 RYPG. Is he a scrub? The Titans had 1 receiver average over 50 yards a game all year.
 
#95
#95
orangetanker11 said:
Ok. In reality, and in my opinion, no one can deny that he has "some sort" of talent. I mean, he does play SEC football. No one can take that away from him. However, in my opinion, and several hundred thousand more fans, the dude is a turd and should not be on the field at all other than special teams. 50 YPG may be "tolerable" at other schools, but we should never make it "tolerable" at the University of Tennessee. Especially since: A) he is a starter, and B) since there are other guys behind him who I'm sure would put up better numbers given the chance.
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Well there goes your credibility on this board.
 
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#96
Midfielder10 said:
Jason Witten averages 54 RYPG. Is he a scrub? The Titans had 1 receiver average over 50 yards a game all year.
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Witten makes big time catches in big time games. He's a chain mover. The Titans didn't have a QB that threw for 3,600 yards this year either. Bottom line, "Do you want Austin Rodgers to start for the Vols this year?" I believe you would be in the minority if you said yes.
 
#98
#98
bdarnell said:
Well there goes your credibility on this board.
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So, what you're saying is that you WANT Austin Rodgers to start for us this year? I'm also assuming that you like it when we are a middle of the road SEC team. Now that CPF is out, I like to aspire for our team to have higher expectations than being mediocre. Why would you want Austin starting, assuming that you do?
 
#99
#99
orangetanker11 said:
Witten makes big time catches in big time games. He's a chain mover. The Titans didn't have a QB that threw for 3,600 yards this year either. Bottom line, "Do you want Austin Rodgers to start for the Vols this year?" I believe you would be in the minority if you said yes.
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Nobody is saying he should start. Get your head out of your rear. This whole thing started by you claiming he was a "turd" and how you wanted to vomit everytime he stepped on the field. We were simply saying that he was a good SEC reciever who produced.
 
#100
#100
bdarnell said:
Nobody is saying he should start. Get your head out of your rear. This whole thing started by you claiming he was a "turd" and how you wanted to vomit everytime he stepped on the field. We were simply saying that he was a good SEC reciever who produced.
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He is a turd. I do want to vomit everytime he steps on the field. He is not a good UT reciever. He did not "produce". I do not want him starting. I do not wish to see him even play WR. I don't want to see him on the field at all, but I'm a realist, and I know I will have to vomit a few times this year, even if he is on special teams.
 
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