Auburn's Gus Malzahn joins Nick Saban in advocating for nine-game SEC schedule

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BigOrangeMojo said:
2. Extra emphasis will be placed on Strength of Schedule for the 2 wildcard teams. I'm more impressed with a team going 2-1 against Bama, Auburn, and UGA than 3-0 against a bunch of Big 10 teams.
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What if a team went 3-0 against Penn St, Ohio St, and Michigan St/Michigan/Wisconsin?

I get the Big 10 hate, but geez. They are a good conference, and were probably better/deeper than the SEC in 2015 and 2016.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I would love this. 9 conference games and 1 P5 OOC and 1 cupcake.
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And who else? You stopped at 11.

I would like to see 6-1-2. That way every 6 years we have played everyone home and away. 1 P5 and 2 school choice games.

I would also like to see us drop back to 12 teams and keep the 9 game conference schedule but that will never happen.

Another option is to drop to 10 teams and play everyone every year. Don't know what to do with the "required" Conference Championship game though.
 
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05_never_again said:
What if a team went 3-0 against Penn St, Ohio St, and Michigan St/Michigan/Wisconsin?

I get the Big 10 hate, but geez. They are a good conference, and were probably better/deeper than the SEC in 2015 and 2016.
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Then they get in. Like I said it would be awesome for Knoxville host a playoff game, I think it would be great for Ann Arbor, The Horseshoe, Happy Valley and Camp Randall to host one. I think it would be great for college football and TV. Same thing goes for a lot of other venues.

#1 Bama vs #8 Penn State (Tuscaloosa)
#2 Clemson vs #7 USC (Clemson)
#3 Ohio State vs #6 FSU (Columbus)
#4 Oklahoma vs #5 Tennessee (Norman)

IMO it would be amazing.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
And who else? You stopped at 11.

I would like to see 6-1-2. That way every 6 years we have played everyone home and away. 1 P5 and 2 school choice games.

I would also like to see us drop back to 12 teams and keep the 9 game conference schedule but that will never happen.

Another option is to drop to 10 teams and play everyone every year. Don't know what to do with the "required" Conference Championship game though.
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Well what I was saying was a compromise if you expanded a playoff.
 
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I’m not sure about the 9 conference games... but if you had a 5 team playoff.. you could possibly get a non power five team in or another conference champion and you let the #1 have a by so it adds drama to the #1 seed and to the 5/6 seed... most importantly... it rewards the #1 team in the country.
 
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When this topic comes up it always makes me feel that Saban has alternate motives for pushing for 9 Conference games. Is his list of reasons legit or is there something else that would benefit Alabama more so than other SEC/West teams?
 
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Caleb59seal said:
I’m not sure about the 9 conference games... but if you had a 5 team playoff.. you could possibly get a non power five team in or another conference champion and you let the #1 have a by so it adds drama to the #1 seed and to the 5/6 seed... most importantly... it rewards the #1 team in the country.
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If you have five team playoff, then the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd seeds all get byes.

Rd 1: 4 vs 5

Semis: 2 vs 3 and 1 vs 4/5

Final: Semi winners
 
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Love it at 4 Playoff teams. I know with 4 there are arguments about the 3rd and 4th seeds (in most years) but with more than 4 playoff spots, teams 5 - 6, 8, or 10 will be so close it can't be fair to who doesn't make it. Most seasons there are actually not more than 2 teams that have shown a complete season of being worthy of playing for a championship.
 
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stevenrich2003 said:
If we do not draw a hard line in the sand it will only be another decade or so and CFP's will be like march madness.

4 is a good number. If it must be expanded go-to 6 and give the top 2 a bye.
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This all day. It rewards the top two teams in the country, so that doesn't devalue the regular season or conference championships.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
And who else? You stopped at 11.

I would like to see 6-1-2. That way every 6 years we have played everyone home and away. 1 P5 and 2 school choice games.

I would also like to see us drop back to 12 teams and keep the 9 game conference schedule but that will never happen.

Another option is to drop to 10 teams and play everyone every year. Don't know what to do with the "required" Conference Championship game though.
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Agreed on the 6-1-2. I'm completely fine with a nine game conference schedule as long as we don't lose the TSIO.

Also agreed on dropping two teams, but there is far too much money wrapped up in it now. TAMU and Mizzou have no business being in the SEC imo.
 
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Those little guys rely on playing a power 5 for that payout though. I wonder the ramifications to other sports (football would prolly be fine) at smaller schools that lose that payout.
 
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It sounds good for the conference, but the rest of the nation already criticizes the SEC for a lack of willingness to play out of conference games especially top ten opponents. We'll really hear it then. Considering the strength of schedule aspect is this the direction the SEC wants to go? Not pushing for this, just asking.
 
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dan4vols said:
It sounds good for the conference, but the rest of the nation already criticizes the SEC for a lack of willingness to play out of conference games especially top ten opponents. We'll really hear it then. Considering the strength of schedule aspect is this the direction the SEC wants to go? Not pushing for this, just asking.
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I'm in agreement.. I too need help understanding why play 9 conference games.

I want the expanded playoff. But how does that in any way correlate with the SEC playing 9 conference games?

If the sec only plays sec, they all kill each other in rankings if everyone keeps losing to each other.

I know I'm missing something so a little help please lol
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Yes and I’d like to see everybody get 2 permanent cross division rival to even it up a little.
Vols should have Bama and Ole Miss every year.
UGA should have Auburn and Arkansas or TAMU.
FLA should have LSU and MSU (because Mullen)
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Really? UF and MSU over say - I dunno - Auburn?

Aside from the fact that in the long run UF would be getting almost a yearly cupcake matchup in Miss St (check the program win percentage...it’s one of the worst in the conference), that’s also turning down the chance to renew the one of the SEC’s major, historical rivalries in Florida-Auburn. Those two programs played each other almost 80 times and yearly from 1927 until the SEC’s schedule forced an end to the series (once the conference moved to only keep one recurring cross divisional opponent in every team’s schedule).
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
If I was in charge....:):thumbsup:

1. 8 team playoff (5 conference champs, 2 wildcards, and Top non Power 5 team)
2. Extra emphasis will be placed on Strength of Schedule for the 2 wildcard teams. I'm more impressed with a team going 2-1 against Bama, Auburn, and UGA than 3-0 against a bunch of Big 10 teams. Hell, Butch Jones went undefeated against the Big 10 West.
3. A 9 game conference schedule
4. An annual SEC - (Pac 12 or Big 10, etc. ) Challenge. Teams with 4 home conference games would have a home game in the Challenge. Teams with 5 home games will have a road game. Teams with legislatively mandated Power 5 nonconference games (UF-FSU; USC-Clemson; UK-Louisville, UGA-GT) can be excluded should they choose. A team must play a total of 10 Power 5 games each year.
5. 2 cupcake games. None against FCS schools.
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If I were in charge....

I would break the FBS into two levels. Mid-majors would have their own system.

The P-5 schools plus an addition or two would be broken up into four 16 team conferences with 4 divisions each. Reduce the regular season to 10 games- 7 conference, 3 open with one required to be a P-4 school.

At the end of the 10 games, the top two teams from each division enter an 8 team conference playoff. The other 4 teams round out the 12 game season with a tournament of their own to determine bowl placement.


The winners of the conferences then enter a 4 team playoff for the NC. Everyone else goes bowling like now.
 
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I don't care about playing tough schedules. Tough schedules don't bother me. Bring it on.

However, I don't want a system where my school gets to play the schedule they do while other schools get to play the schedules they do.

Playing 9 conference games and Florida State while I watch a team like Wisconsin play one team in its 12 game schedule that ended the season ranked (and that was Northwestern).....hell, no.

Either we all play quality schedules or I'm not signing up for Murderer's Row.
 
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99gator said:
I don't care about playing tough schedules. Tough schedules don't bother me. Bring it on.

However, I don't want a system where my school gets to play the schedule they do while other schools get to play the schedules they do.

Playing 9 conference games and Florida State while I watch a team like Wisconsin play one team in its 12 game schedule that ended the season ranked (and that was Northwestern).....hell, no.

Either we all play quality schedules or I'm not signing up for Murderer's Row.
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This
 
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I could also make the joke....ha ha he he.....that champions currently already play 9 conference games.

So the SEC champ, would play 10 conference games.

In Florida's case....10 conference games, Florida State, and 2 playoff games in order to win a national title......

In a typical year, that's a hell of a gauntlet.
 
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I would say scrap divisions and go to a 4-6-3 setup. Four teams you play every year, six teams you play every other year, and three teams you play every three years. The yearly teams would be your biggest rivals, the every other year teams would be any lesser rivals. Obviously there are going to be some holes here and there and some rivalry games would be left off, but overall the conference I think would improve greatly in the long run. Best records go to SEC Championship.

For Tennessee the schedule would be:
Yearly:Alabama, Florida, Georgia,and Vanderbilt
Every other year:Kentucky, Auburn, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Missouri, Arkansas
Every three years:LSU, Mississippi State, and Texas A&M
 
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I would rather see an expanded playoffs. Whoever wins their conference championship to play in the CFP. Also, include an at large bid for the 12th team.
 
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