Athletes (split from Hurd thread)

#77
#77
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
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Here are our first rounders:

2017 - Dobbs, Hurd, Sutton, Barnett

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So, just out of curiosity, do you believe that JD is good enough right now to be drafted in the first round of an NFL draft, or are you confident that he will develop and mature enough in the coming season to do so?
 
#79
#79
KBVol said:
Malone? How is he ever gonna get a combine invite? Thought you said he was one of our no-talent trash WRs.
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Josh Malone is a 6'3" 210 lb young man who will most likely run a sub 4.40 40 yard dash at the combine.

He lacks natural receiving instincts but he's an amazing athlete.
 
#81
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KBVol said:
You've only been on here since early last year and most of your predictions involve things that have yet to happen......you haven't had a chance to be proven wrong yet.

Obviously, the one big one that has come to fruition where you were so unbelievably arrogant, condescending and cocky was North going no later than the 4th round.....after saying there was absolutely no way that he would declare for the draft because he wants to go to law school.

That being said, beyond your predictions, you're routinely wrong with nearly every post regarding how Dobbs is the best QB in country, how Hurd is the best running back in the country, how Stephen Griffin is a stud and likely starter at safety this year, etc, etc. While Dobbs and Hurd are outstanding and Griffin does have very good potential, none of those are true.
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And you coulda stopped right there.

Other than the North draft projection, everything I've said is what is about to come to fruition.

Dobbs is the best QB currently in college football. Hurd is right there with Fournette as the best RB. Both will prove their overwhelming greatness when they lead us to a national title this year.

Then non-believers like you will start to believe.
 
#82
#82
KBVol said:
2017- Barnett yes and maybe Sutton. Neither Dobbs nor Hurd

2018- Wolf is not first round talent. The others definitely are, but talent alone doesn't guarantee it. Bama's 2 stud DTs this past year were first round talent who weren't picked til round 2.

2019- first round type talent, no way to know where they'll be picked.

Others- Griffin can't get on the field right now.
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I'll make another prediction.

Dobbs, Hurd, and Sutton will all be picked BEFORE Barnett.

Barnett actually the guy I feel the least confident about next year. He's a productive college player but I think he could fall in the draft once the scouts start prodding his size and athleticism. I think he's most similar to Shaq Lawson (from Clemson) this past season who went #19 overall.

Dobbs, Hurd, and Sutton should all be top 15 picks easily.

And FYI Ethan Wolf is a first round talent. But he might fall to the second because our offense doesn't give him many oppourtunities in the pass. Regardless of where he's drafted, I predict he has a pro career like Greg Olsen.
 
#83
#83
Jmyers1033 said:
only first rounders from Tennessee next year will be...
1)cam sutton
2)derek barnett
3) maybe jalen hurd but most likely 2-3 rounder he needs a big year if he can start breaking away from defenders he can sneak in the 1st round.

if dobbs get drafted thats a big if will be a late round and a team just taking a chance on him because how smart he is.
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Dobbs has size, arm strength, and athleticism. So he's got more than just intelligence.

If Colin Kaepernick can be drafted early second round, then so can Dobbs.

NFL teams love potential and someone will take Dobbs a lot earlier than anyone expects even if he has a pedestrian year this season.
 
#84
#84
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I'll make another prediction.

Dobbs, Hurd, and Sutton will all be picked BEFORE Barnett.

Barnett actually the guy I feel the least confident about next year. He's a productive college player but I think he could fall in the draft once the scouts start prodding his size and athleticism. I think he's most similar to Shaq Lawson (from Clemson) this past season who went #19 overall.

Dobbs, Hurd, and Sutton should all be top 15 picks easily.

And FYI Ethan Wolf is a first round talent. But he might fall to the second because our offense doesn't give him many oppourtunities in the pass. Regardless of where he's drafted, I predict he has a pro career like Greg Olsen.
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Well here is my prediction.

Sutton MIGHT be a top 15 pick if he has a phenomenal year. I'm leaning more towards late 1st early 2nd.

Dobbs 3rd-5th with an improved year in the passing stats. Hurd will have a tough time getting picked up in the 1st with the amount of elite RB prospects this year. Not saying he can't with Heisman type numbers, but I don't believe he goes that high.
 
#85
#85
SaintLouisVol said:
So, just out of curiosity, do you believe that JD is good enough right now to be drafted in the first round of an NFL draft, or are you confident that he will develop and mature enough in the coming season to do so?
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Both.

I know talent when I see it so I would take Dobbs in the 1st round right now.

But I'm also projecting saying he will develop and mature enough this year to where he becomes a CONSENSUS first round talent.

Dobbs will have a HUGE season this year. Couple that with our run to a national title, and you have the formula for a first round draft pick.
 
#86
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Well here is my prediction.

Sutton MIGHT be a top 15 pick if he has a phenomenal year. I'm leaning more towards late 1st early 2nd.

Dobbs 3rd-5th with an improved year in the passing stats. Hurd will have a tough time getting picked up in the 1st with the amount of elite RB prospects this year. Not saying he can't with Heisman type numbers, but I don't believe he goes that high.
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You'll be surprised what a national title run does for your draft prospects.

If you believe we'll be in the playoffs next year, then you should expect all our guys to get a draft boost.

That's what I'm banking on.
 
#87
#87
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Both.

I know talent when I see it so I would take Dobbs in the 1st round right now.

But I'm also projecting saying he will develop and mature enough this year to where he becomes a CONSENSUS first round talent.

Dobbs will have a HUGE season this year. Couple that with our run to a national title, and you have the formula for a first round draft pick.
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Just for curiosity sake, and I am being completely serious, but why do you believe you have so much talent scouting college players?

Did you play college football yourself? Did you earn a degree in sports management? I guess I'm just asking what qualifications do you have?
 
#88
#88
VFL34 said:
One more things. He struggles on Long passes because he waits until the wreciever is completely open and turned around. Deep balls you throw before the wreciever turns around. His best pass was to josh Malone on the right side because he threw before the play developed. Everything is about seeing things before it happens.
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Thanks VFL34 - I tried to explain this to a younger - I think your explanation for this and check-down will help! :hi:
 
#89
#89
If Josh Dobbs is drafted, I don't see him going any higher than 5th round. Reason, see Tyrod Taylor.
 
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#90
#90
VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Seriously? Have you been living under a rock the last few threads? Please do not make comments if you don't understand the underlying context. Move along.
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Yeah....I know all about it.. .so if you're butt hurt about it......why stir the Sh*t up. Let it ride. Now tell me to move along some more..Pops.
 
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#91
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Just for curiosity sake, and I am being completely serious, but why do you believe you have so much talent scouting college players?

Did you play college football yourself? Did you earn a degree in sports management? I guess I'm just asking what qualifications do you have?
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I've always followed the draft and almost every player I've ever had a good feeling about has panned out. Guys I didn't like who others did typically became busts.

So it's really success from my past that makes me confident in the future.
 
#93
#93
VOLAGAIN said:
Yeah....I know all about it.. .so if you're butt hurt about it......why stir the Sh*t up. Let it ride. Now tell me to move along some more..Pops.
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While I agree with you, I didn't see you assassinate D4Hs comments over race when he continues to bring them up out of nowhere. Race shouldn't be anywhere near any of these threads.....save that **** for the politics forum.
 
#94
#94
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I've always followed the draft and almost every player I've ever had a good feeling about has panned out. Guys I didn't like who others did typically became busts.

So it's really success from my past that makes me confident in the future.
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Ok, so you had a good feeling. But what qualifications do you have that gives you the ability to see talent when many others on this board supposedly do not? Just asking for curiosity sake.
 
#95
#95
BearCat204 said:
While I agree with you, I didn't see you assassinate D4Hs comments over race when he continues to bring them up out of nowhere. Race shouldn't be anywhere near any of these threads.....save that **** for the politics forum.
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Which is exactly why he should be called out for it.
 
#96
#96
Volgrad98 said:
If Josh Dobbs is drafted, I don't see him going any higher than 5th round. Reason, see Tyrod Taylor.
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+1.

Based in his EXISTING body of work, I am not even confident he'd get an UFA camp invitation.

The first and, by far, most important characteristic of an NFL QB is the ability to throw the ball quickly, confidently and VERY accurately with a very high level of consistency.

Dobbs simply hasn't done that.
 
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#97
#97
VFL34 said:
One more things. He struggles on Long passes because he waits until the wreciever is completely open and turned around. Deep balls you throw before the wreciever turns around. His best pass was to josh Malone on the right side because he threw before the play developed. Everything is about seeing things before it happens.
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Spot on. And the thing with the deep pass to Malone at UK, is that it looks like Dobbs was forced to get rid of the ball before he wanted because the pocket was quickly collapsing. Turns out that this caused him to lead Malone perfectly, for probably the best deep ball of the year. Wish he could do this on every deep pass.
 
#98
#98
SaintLouisVol said:
+1.

Based in his EXISTING body of work, I am not even confident he'd get an UFA camp invitation.

The first and, by far, most important characteristic of an NFL QB is the ability to throw the ball quickly, confidently and VERY accurately with a very high level of consistency.

Dobbs simply hasn't done that.
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I agree. Dobbs would need a gigantic year to go 1st round (even then, IMO, he goes later).

I think of Geno Smith. Similar size and athleticism (although he isn't the runner Dobbs is). He put up monster passing numbers his junior and senior season at WVU and was still only drafted 2nd rd.
 
#99
#99
VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Ok, so you had a good feeling. But what qualifications do you have that gives you the ability to see talent when many others on this board supposedly do not? Just asking for curiosity sake.
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I don't wish to reveal my secrets right now. I do have something else that gives me foresight on who will pan out and who won't.

Maybe once all my predictions come to fruition I'll give y'all a sneak peek behind the curtain.
 
#100
#100
VOL 4 Life 83 said:
I agree. Dobbs would need a gigantic year to go 1st round (even then, IMO, he goes later).

I think of Geno Smith. Similar size and athleticism (although he isn't the runner Dobbs is). He put up monster passing numbers his junior and senior season at WVU and was still only drafted 2nd rd.
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Geno had character concerns. Remember he was projected as a first rounder before people started dogging into his past.
 
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