Are you kidding me with this offensive crap?!

#76
#76
Eh I feel like Debord does a good enough job drawing up plays, he's just terrible at playcalling and has no feel for timing.
 
#81
#81
You can blame DeBord from now on..... but it is Jones' O being run Jones' way.

There are NO essential changes in the system from what UT ran under Jancek and now. The players are deeper into the system. That's all that's been added.

The O WOULD change if Jones told DeBord to do it his way.... for better or worse.

IMO, there are two ways to look at the O's problems and account for the facts. One, the system simply doesn't work against top tier D's. Two, Dobbs' inability to throw the mid and deep passes prevents the system from working.

And yes, I know that Dobbs threw two long TD passes already. Both were great plays by Malone on 50/50 balls. Both would have been clean had Dobbs thrown on time and led Malone properly.

When UT attacks the mid and deep middle.... you'll know they trust the accuracy and timing of their QB.
 
#82
#82
As a general rule, I don't criticize coaches.

This offense makes me rethink that. It makes the worst of Jim Tressel look like a prime Spurrier.
 
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allvol123 said:
People want the W and to cover their eyes and ears to what is actually hAppening on a deeper level.

This board will go berserk in 2 weeks unless some drastic improvement occurs.
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It will be the same people that are going berserk now. It wouldn't matter if we beat Florida by 10. The whiners are going to whine. It Is just that simple.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
And thats the most concerning thing. This team is supposedly loaded with veteran talent now. So whats the problem?
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i've about got it fiqured out. CBJ is a sales manager in disguise. He can get the recruits to buy into the program but his downside is he simply doesn't know how the product is supposed to work. My biggest complaint: Josh D., in the shotgun. He stands there,straight up, for every defensive player to see, and at times takes one step to hand off to hurd. i don't get the initial hesitation. i don't get the fact that dobbs isn't under center ever. the best we had at UT was adamant about carrying out play fakes with or without the ball. the reason is that DB's and LB's may not be in position to see the ball at all times and good executing QB's always bend over slightly and hide the ball behind the big lineman. the reason it is executed in this manner is to get that extra split second to keep the defense off balance. This current offense at UT simply hasn't been taught this nor do they use any mis-direction. UT's offense is bland. Whatever CBJ is selling, i'm simply not buying. I don't think he's capable of turning it around.
 
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allvol123 said:
He set Kamara up to be decapitated with his foolishness of running the same play, just to the opposite side. No creativity whatsoever.
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Yeah but that's not the fault of the play itself. It's a fault of the playcalling/timing.

We used that play to get Kamara a lot of yards in 2015 (and to set up a couple easy TDs on fakes). It especially was effective against Bama. But VT knew it was coming bevause we've run it damn near every time Kamara has been on the field so far this season.

They play is fine. Him using it in a horribly predictable way is not.
 
#87
#87
So... you rather have our offensive output of last year and we lose those games?

I am hgetting tired of swing pass to a motioning Kamara. Either get the WRs to block or stop it.
 
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sjt18 said:
You can blame DeBord from now on..... but it is Jones' O being run Jones' way.

There are NO essential changes in the system from what UT ran under Jancek and now. The players are deeper into the system. That's all that's been added.

The O WOULD change if Jones told DeBord to do it his way.... for better or worse.

IMO, there are two ways to look at the O's problems and account for the facts. One, the system simply doesn't work against top tier D's. Two, Dobbs' inability to throw the mid and deep passes prevents the system from working.

And yes, I know that Dobbs threw two long TD passes already. Both were great plays by Malone on 50/50 balls. Both would have been clean had Dobbs thrown on time and led Malone properly.

When UT attacks the mid and deep middle.... you'll know they trust the accuracy and timing of their QB.
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This is a very shallow analysis that ignores other factors and possibilities (though it does fit the agenda and/or preconceptions you decided on years ago). The world isn't black and white. Most often there are several factors that go into explaining a situation, not just two.

The OL is a huge factor (especially in the passing game). Whether it's OL coaching, poor pass blocking, or just a general lack of talented linemen, they have beena huge factor in the offense's struggles.

Predictable playcalling doesn't do any of our players any favors. It hurts our OL when other teams know to expect pass, it hurts our RBs when defenses know to expect a run or a screen, and it hurts Kamara when everyboy in the stadium knows we're going to throw him a pass near the LOS. We've seen this staff draw up some good plays that gave defenses fits. We know they're in the playbook. However, they rarely seem to vary the playcalling enough to take advantage of that.

IMO, it's likely a combination of Dobbs' inconsistency, the OL's struggles (for whatever the reason for that may be), and overly predictable playcalling. The first of those could probably be masked pretty well if the latter two were solid. The latter two could probably be masked if Dobbs' had the arm and size of Cam Newton or Jameis Winston to stand in the pocket and shrug off DL.

But that's just not the case and it's become a viscious cycle for our DL. Either way, breaking it down to "our system is bad" or "Dobbs is bad" is ignorant and/or disingenuous.
 
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Other_Guy said:
So... you rather have our offensive output of last year and we lose those games?

I am hgetting tired of swing pass to a motioning Kamara. Either get the WRs to block or stop it.
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How about better offensive output than last year and still win? Why cant that be achieved? We have a roster full of experienced veteran players. This offense should be firing on all cylinders and by talent wise, be one of the most explosive offenses in the SEC if not the country.
 
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thatsmyboy said:
Who plays and who doesn't play is more political than you think, trust me. It's not about who is better. I've personally seen video of O-lineman walking the dog with other O-lineman, and bullying D-Lineman. But that is not the video that the media is allowed to show. That's not the narrative they want fans to follow. I've heard members here saying particular players are a bust because they haven't played. Ask yourself a question, If that's true, why haven't they been released and allowed to transfer so a scholarship can be freed up?
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Austin has gotten a raw deal...I think he shoves his guy too hard instead of screening. Same reason Jack Jones isn't a starter.
 
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#93
I'm more interested in what UT does on the scoreboard, but how many yards or 3rd down conversions they have. VT gave them 5 fumbles (of which UT forced 2 and still had to go recover them all) but UT could have turned it over more themselves or settled for more FGs. We should indeed be worried about the OL and Dobbs decision making, but theoffense still put up the 45 points. I will take that efficiency over 600 yards and 23 points.
 
#94
#94
Dobbs could have been 43/53 for 396 yds and 4 TD's and some of you complainers would cry about Hurd not getting enough touches. Or Kamara being underutilized and he should have never came here. WE WON. There's lot's of teams that would love to push the do-over button and reset the season already. We are 2-0, enjoy the moment and be glad we are not 0-2. If that was the case, you'd have legitimacy to your complaints. You sound like a bunch of middle school girls talking about they don't like Susie's hair style.
 
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#96
#96
I'm pretty sure Jones has said before that we don't run a spread. We run a read option, power run type offense.
 
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