Any you own a Pit Bulldog?

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n_huffhines said:
I've been bit by a Dalmation and a Chihuahua and the latter was worse. The Dalmation bit the side of my torso and it hurt, but the Chihuahua bit my finger and when I pulled away his canine tooth dragged across my knuckle, over half an inch. It's been 14 years and I still have a very visible scar.
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Actually know a girl who had her bottom lip ripped off by a chihuahua. Dog clearly did not want her messing with it yet she decided to pick it up and kiss it. She had to have plastic surgery.
 
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hndog609 said:
I'm afraid just claiming bias isn't going to carry much weight without some vettable counter argument. (and in the spirit of avoiding bias let's not have that counter argument coming from pitsrule.com or the like)

And what bias? petbreeds isn't even devoted to dog attacks in any form or fashion (check out their home page) and that particular page carried stats on 35 different breeds. (I was actually surprised by the death to attack ratio attributed to Huskies, though I'm guessing that a lot of that is pack oriented in places like Alaska)

And even with dogsbite.org bias can only take you so far when citing specific examples and figures. What exactly is cited that you can empirically refute? (I'm genuinely curious)
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I am basing my accusations of bias on some of the other content on the site. For example the "myths" about pitbulls article where they are all out to murder and maim.

I don't have good statistics to give you because I can't find them. Check the link I posted earlier about how most stats were formulated based off media reports. The media tends to pick something they can sensationalize rather than actual facts. You would think stats from law enforcement agencies would exist that painted a clearer picture, but I haven't been able to locate such a place.

I'll give your second site another shot to make sure my opinion wasn't colored by dogbites.org and report back.
 
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I don't hate Pits, but I don't trust them either. I have known a few, all lovable goof-balls with the exception of one who just needs to be put down. Not a good track record on him, has killed a neighbor dog while the Pit was on leash, just couldn't stop him. Racked up massive vet bills on a Doberman he was intimately familiar with, just attacked him out of the blue with ZERO warning.

My dog is a Yellow Lab / American Bulldog mix and the sweetest dog I have ever owned. She does get mistaken for a Pit and is known to scare runners much to my embarrassment. She sees someone running and she just starts romping towards them while on leash. Just wants to go for a run, never met a stranger but the size and passing resemblance to a Pit scares people.

One problem with Pits is misidentification. Shelters rarely put "Pit" in the dog description, but casual observers almost always do! Look at these dogs and see if you can tell which are real Pits: Pick the Pit - Can you find the Pitbull?

Only dog breed I automatically despise are Chows. Never met a decent one.
 
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I don't hate Pits, but I don't trust them either. I have known a few, all lovable goof-balls with the exception of one who just needs to be put down. Not a good track record on him, has killed a neighbor dog while the Pit was on leash, just couldn't stop him. Racked up massive vet bills on a Doberman he was intimately familiar with, just attacked him out of the blue with ZERO warning.

My dog is a Yellow Lab / American Bulldog mix and the sweetest dog I have ever owned. She does get mistaken for a Pit and is known to scare runners much to my embarrassment. She sees someone running and she just starts romping towards them while on leash. Just wants to go for a run, never met a stranger but the size and passing resemblance to a Pit scares people.

One problem with Pits is misidentification. Shelters rarely put "Pit" in the dog description, but casual observers almost always do! Look at these dogs and see if you can tell which are real Pits: Pick the Pit - Can you find the Pitbull?

Only dog breed I automatically despise are Chows. Never met a decent one.
 
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Aavoxx said:
I am basing my accusations of bias on some of the other content on the site. For example the "myths" about pitbulls article where they are all out to murder and maim.

I don't have good statistics to give you because I can't find them. Check the link I posted earlier about how most stats were formulated based off media reports. The media tends to pick something they can sensationalize rather than actual facts. You would think stats from law enforcement agencies would exist that painted a clearer picture, but I haven't been able to locate such a place.

I'll give your second site another shot to make sure my opinion wasn't colored by dogbites.org and report back.
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I didn't read any of the editorialized information on the site and really doesn't matter. If they're taking facts and running with them that doesn't mean the facts part is wrong. Let's just take 2015.

2015 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org

Note that actually the majority of the data cited in the upper portion of the page is not specific to any breed. Of the 12 data points listed only 4 dealt with dog breed at all.

Moving down to the victims list I independently vetted every other 5th example for accuracy. (I'm not bored enough to check all of them)

Eugene Smith-checked out
Roy Higgenbotham Jr
I'm actually giving this one a pass since as I understand it the owner apparently had a heart attack and Roy, while trying to aid the owner, was attacked by the family pit. One can only assume the dog thought it was protecting it's owner. Truly a sucky story for all involved. (I will add that the dog didn't just attack, it killed the guy, which is no small matter) So next:
Betty Wood-checked out, rottweiler
Brayden Wilson-checked out, and I wish I'd never looked
Annie Williams-checked out
Carmen Reigada-checked out, 3 different mixed breeds involved correctly cited by dogsbite
Anthony Riggs-checked out, rottweiler
Nyjah Espinosa-checked out, "bulldog mix", not cited as pit

As far as I can discern whatever dogsbite.org may or may not feel about pits as a breed their actual data appears to hold up under scrutiny. (at least as far as I've looked) If it wasn't pit related they appear to have no issues making that distinction.

So I'm stuck with my original assertion which is as I type this pits and their immediate analog mixes are wildly overrepresented in dog related fatalities. That we stick to fatalities helps in that such things are going to be much more vetted in the first place. Grey areas are reduced dramatically when someone actually dies. Police get involved, lawyers lined up for criminal and/or civil cases, priority is set on finding the animal(s) involved, etc.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I've been bit by a Dalmation and a Chihuahua and the latter was worse. The Dalmation bit the side of my torso and it hurt, but the Chihuahua bit my finger and when I pulled away his canine tooth dragged across my knuckle, over half an inch. It's been 14 years and I still have a very visible scar.
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I was bitten by a Chihuahua in college at a friend's house, I guess I got too close to its food and it bit my hand. I slapped it with my other hand on reflex and I'm pretty sure it didn't faze it.

In fact I pissed it off more.
 
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rockydoc said:
Doubt if you would be able to collect any judgment rendered by a civil court. The scum that who Pits don't tend to have much in the way of tangible assets
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Yah man. I own nothing. I live in a cardboard box.
 
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This comes from personal experience...which means it is merely opinion.

Pit bulls raised properly, and that come from a line of dogs that have not been bred by dogfighters that ontentionally breed the most aggressive males with the most aggressive females to get natural born killers....can be great dogs.

In my experience, growing up in tenn. And NC, i have seen 10x as many pitbulls chained to a tree and forgotten as any other breed of dog. Literally. 10x...it seems that dope dealers and people who live in bad hoods tend to chain a pit to a tree or have it fenced in the back yard and have ansolutely nothing to do with the dog except to feed it. They do this intentionally so it will be mean and territorial and not let cops or burglers in their yard. As another poster said, go to the animal shelter. There are many many times more pits there than any other breed of dog. When its 100 degrees in the summer, or 10 degrees in the winter...these dogs are taken from their owners for being mistreated and abandoned. Then they are too mean to be adopted so they are killed. Its sad. Very tragic. Raised right, these could have been good dogs.

I have had 2 rottweilers, both pure bred from champion bloodlines. I raised both to be complete teddy bears, so that they would never bite anyone. In 20 years of ownership, neither 1 of them ever bit anyone. If dogs are intentionally socialized and given lots of love and care they are great companions and wont hurt people unless they or their owners are threatened. Like kids...its all about how you raise them.

I dont like chows though. I am sure there are good ones...but every purple tongued devil i have ever seen has been mean...lol.
 
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Aavoxx said:
Yah man. I own nothing. I live in a cardboard box.
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Aavoxx, you modest schtupper, that "box" is a state-of-the-art concept for quickly deployable emergency shelter and low-cost housing. That cardboard is about as close to the stuff enclosing shipped consumer goods as Knoxville is to Manitoba. 'Zoners know that you're living in it presently as a proof-of-concept schtick for second phase fundraising. AND, spartan as your temporary lifestyle is, you do not "own nothing." I know you dig that original '60s butterfly chair I lent you. BTW, I'm counting on that $4 I plunked down to convert into 1000+ shares on which I can retire after the IPO. :rock:
 
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sona said:
Only dog breed I automatically despise are Chows. Never met a decent one.
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I had two, brother and sister. I loved them both, very protective and beautiful. One was black the other "blue". They were good dogs, as long as the only living things in thier view, scent or hearing distance was me and or my wife. About all I can say, except they were my first and last Chows I'll ever own.
 
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If there's only a couple breeds of dog you don't trust, then you're a bit of a fool.

I love dogs, but every single one of them regardless of size should be dealt with cautiously at first.

Worst dog attack I've ever seen was by a Great Pyrenees that wasn't even a field dog, it was a companion to an elderly woman. On the other hand, my sister and brother in law took in a pit that looked straight out of a rap video (for lack of a better description). She turned out to be a bigger baby than either of our schnauzers, and she has somehow 'adopted' my nephew. She follows him around like he hangs the moon, and to call her tolerant is a massive understatement. Really changed my opinion of those types of dogs.
 
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WallyBalls said:
If there's only a couple breeds of dog you don't trust, then you're a bit of a fool.

I love dogs, but every single one of them regardless of size should be dealt with cautiously at first.

Worst dog attack I've ever seen was by a Great Pyrenees that wasn't even a field dog, it was a companion to an elderly woman. On the other hand, my sister and brother in law took in a pit that looked straight out of a rap video (for lack of a better description). She turned out to be a bigger baby than either of our schnauzers, and she has somehow 'adopted' my nephew. She follows him around like he hangs the moon, and to call her tolerant is a massive understatement. Really changed my opinion of those types of dogs.
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This all day. I've seen dogs turn on people when they've shown zero prior signs of aggression. Many of the fatal attacks are completely unprovoked with a dog that's in a loving home.
 
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My dog is a mix (gets confused for a pit quite often). He's a rescue.

We had another American bulldog before this one that would literally let my daughter pull on everything and crawl all over her without even a care.
 

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Yankee_Vol said:
My dog is a mix (gets confused for a pit quite often). He's a rescue.

We had another American bulldog before this one that would literally let my daughter pull on everything and crawl all over her without even a care.
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Look at 'em.

That dog needs ear rubs, STAT.
 
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rockydoc said:
Made me sick to read of the child in Atlanta killed and another young child mauled while at a school bus stop after being attacked by these savage beasts. If I were the dad of one of these kids, I would not only shoot the animal but also the owner.

Oh, I'm sure some of the A-hole types that own Pits or Rottweilers will say their dogs are harmless. Always thought owners of big vicious dogs were either drug dealers or people with little egos who felt big owning a big dog. Suit me if every Pitbull on the planet were euthanized tomorrow.
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Agree, same with a Rottweiler
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
My dog is a mix (gets confused for a pit quite often). He's a rescue.

We had another American bulldog before this one that would literally let my daughter pull on everything and crawl all over her without even a care.
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I had an American Bulldog a long time ago. They are very good dogs
 
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