Any you own a Pit Bulldog?

#28
#28
My next door neighbors have a beautiful brindle female pit. She's as sweet and friendly as any dog I've ever been around. They kind of freak out when she runs over to see me. They know most folks are scared of pits. She literally almost knocked me down one day when she ran over and jumped up on me - and I'm 6-1, 220. She thinks she's a lap dog...also plays well with our corgi/jack russell mix.
 
#29
#29
I love a good pit bull.

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I don't like the mean ones.





Not my photo, btw.
 
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Goldarnit, Aavoxx!!! I'ver perused this entire thread and found not one pic of your pupper!
 
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hndog609 said:
No argument that larger breeds have the ability to do more damage. At issue now though is how pits account for more fatalities, by a considerable margin, than all those other breeds that are as large or even larger combined.
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My neighbor has a pit and we babysit it and leave it at home with our 15 lb poodle. It's a gentle giant. I feel like the people who get them for "security" are the problem. Lots of pits are raised by shady types who train them to be scary guard dogs but don't properly train them
 
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n_huffhines said:
I have never met a mean pit bull and i've met lots. I think it's all about the people who raise it.
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It's all about how you raise it. That goes for any dog.

Myself and my family have owned Dobermans for years. I have owned a pit bull and my brother currently owns one. All are very loyal and great dogs. They might lick you to death, though. Sorry.
 
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Fuel to the fire... "Pit Bull" does not describe one recognized breed of dog. AKC recognized breeds include the American Staffordshire Terrier, often considered the basic breed source for hybrids labeled, "Pit Bulls." Enthusiasts unconcerned with AKC recognition have named dogs with certain consistent traits "American Bull Terriers." An intermingling of this unrecognized breed with the American Staffordshire Terrier has been named the "Staffordshire Bull Terrier."

People breeding dogs for the fighting pits mingle other breeds into the mix, seeking specific traits thought to provide advantage. Well, this purpose isn't the only source for expanding hybrids rooted in the American Stafforshire Terrier, any and all of which may be labeled, "Pit Bulls."
 
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Rottweilers are often considered baddass dogs. I've witnessed a female Rottweiler watching over preschoolers, herding them away from hazards, tolerating slaps, pulls, pokes, and punches without response, placing itself between the kids and unknown adults without overt threat to the unknown adults, but blocking their access to the kids all the same. That dog was a Godsend to the kids and their parents.
 
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They became an image thing and the resulting dogs really hurt the breed. I lived in Newport news for years (home of Michael Vick) and the number of abandoned pits at the shelter was amazing. Probably 90-95% of all dogs there and they were picked up in the inner city. Of course I also have friends with multiple pits and see little danger in the ones raised right. Of course there is always the possibility with any animal to do something unexpected

My dog is one of the sweetest breeds around and I've seen his hair stand up when someone he didn't know came around my sons. I have no doubt he also has the ability to protect them if needed
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Yorkies are the ones you need to watch. Yeah they look cute, but they are plotting against you.
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I've been bit by a Dalmation and a Chihuahua and the latter was worse. The Dalmation bit the side of my torso and it hurt, but the Chihuahua bit my finger and when I pulled away his canine tooth dragged across my knuckle, over half an inch. It's been 14 years and I still have a very visible scar.
 
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n_huffhines said:
My neighbor has a pit and we babysit it and leave it at home with our 15 lb poodle. It's a gentle giant. I feel like the people who get them for "security" are the problem. Lots of pits are raised by shady types who train them to be scary guard dogs but don't properly train them
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First let's clear something up...there are a hell of a lot more pits out there that haven't maimed/killed someone than have. If the correlation were that profound they'd not only be wholly illegal but we'd have had a pogrom by now. That's not the argument. (at least not mine)

To your second point I'm certain there's at least some of that in play. What keeps being shunted aside is that this can be argued for any of the guard breeds. (dobermans, shepherds, akitas, etc) No other breeds have bad owners? No other breeds are used as security dogs? C'mon now.

Again, I'm not here to tell you or anyone that any given pit is a secret canine terrorist sleeper just waiting for the opportunity to maim and kill. My only real interaction with a pit was a huge SOB that, even though rather unnervingly named Adolf, was a total love muffin. I'll also add the only bite of any significance I've ever had was from a black lab. What I'm absolutely saying is that pits are wildly overrepresented in severe mauling/death statistics.
 
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n_huffhines said:
My neighbor has a pit and we babysit it and leave it at home with our 15 lb poodle. It's a gentle giant. I feel like the people who get them for "security" are the problem. Lots of pits are raised by shady types who train them to be scary guard dogs but don't properly train them
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The ultimate irony is that the people that get them to protect their property are usually broke as **** and no one wants their stuff in the first place.

Yep this here's Ajax, he's a keepin all them rusted warshers and various car parts from gettin stoled.
 
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hndog609 said:
U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org

Dog Breeds That Have Attacked the Most People | PetBreeds

That second site is interesting as it goes through individual breeds (and even some specific mixes) and touches on that difference between attacking and killing.
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Both of the sites you referenced are agenda based and anti-pit, rather than just reporting the facts.

I do appreciate your desire to have reasonable conversation in the posts before and after this one, tho.
 
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Tin Man said:
Goldarnit, Aavoxx!!! I'ver perused this entire thread and found not one pic of your pupper!
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This is a solvable problem.
 

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Tin Man said:
Fuel to the fire... "Pit Bull" does not describe one recognized breed of dog. AKC recognized breeds include the American Staffordshire Terrier, often considered the basic breed source for hybrids labeled, "Pit Bulls." Enthusiasts unconcerned with AKC recognition have named dogs with certain consistent traits "American Bull Terriers." An intermingling of this unrecognized breed with the American Staffordshire Terrier has been named the "Staffordshire Bull Terrier."

People breeding dogs for the fighting pits mingle other breeds into the mix, seeking specific traits thought to provide advantage. Well, this purpose isn't the only source for expanding hybrids rooted in the American Stafforshire Terrier, any and all of which may be labeled, "Pit Bulls."
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This. All of this.

Tin Man said:
Rottweilers are often considered baddass dogs. I've witnessed a female Rottweiler watching over preschoolers, herding them away from hazards, tolerating slaps, pulls, pokes, and punches without response, placing itself between the kids and unknown adults without overt threat to the unknown adults, but blocking their access to the kids all the same. That dog was a Godsend to the kids and their parents.
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Yup. A lot of dogs feel this way. Before they developed the current reputation, pitbulls were seen as nanny dogs for generations. The reputation didn't change because they were bad at it.
 
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utvolpj said:
They became an image thing and the resulting dogs really hurt the breed. I lived in Newport news for years (home of Michael Vick) and the number of abandoned pits at the shelter was amazing. Probably 90-95% of all dogs there and they were picked up in the inner city. Of course I also have friends with multiple pits and see little danger in the ones raised right. Of course there is always the possibility with any animal to do something unexpected

My dog is one of the sweetest breeds around and I've seen his hair stand up when someone he didn't know came around my sons. I have no doubt he also has the ability to protect them if needed
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Is this a shift from your previous stance on pits, PJ? I feel like it is, but that other thread was a long time ago.
 
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Aavoxx said:
Both of the sites you referenced are agenda based and anti-pit, rather than just reporting the facts.

I do appreciate your desire to have reasonable conversation in the posts before and after this one, tho.
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I'm afraid just claiming bias isn't going to carry much weight without some vettable counter argument. (and in the spirit of avoiding bias let's not have that counter argument coming from pitsrule.com or the like)

And what bias? petbreeds isn't even devoted to dog attacks in any form or fashion (check out their home page) and that particular page carried stats on 35 different breeds. (I was actually surprised by the death to attack ratio attributed to Huskies, though I'm guessing that a lot of that is pack oriented in places like Alaska)

And even with dogsbite.org bias can only take you so far when citing specific examples and figures. What exactly is cited that you can empirically refute? (I'm genuinely curious)
 
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Aavoxx said:
Is this a shift from your previous stance on pits, PJ? I feel like it is, but that other thread was a long time ago.
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No I actually posted a pic of my son at about a year and a half crawling on a friend's pit. I received quite a few personal insults because of it

My wife also had one in college. She was actually attacked as a child by a German Shepherd
 
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