Any updates on Devrin Young?

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IndianapolisVol said:
Saving face
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I said that earlier in the thread, so not exactly saving face. Good kid, not a great baller. If you feel otherwise, who am I to tell you no?

There's just one difference between you and I, and that is that I will not bash anybody or say they're wrong for holding an opinion. :good!:
 
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volbrawler said:
Lastly, I am in no way arguing that Devrin Young is not a hard working young man who has contributed to this football program. I'm just saying he is definitely not as good as we are saying he is.
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You speak the truth. You have to realize there's a part of VolNation that believes no one should every criticize a Vol.
 
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volbrawler said:
I'm getting a lot of conflicting information about the same statistic. Could you refer me to the credible source you're citing? Also, that stat does not really translate to talent. Out of that 6.4%, there are studs and duds.. and if you had an opportunity to trade a dud for a stud, you would. When Cordarrelle became the number one returner, you heard no quarrels from the Vol faithful.
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Yeah, as soon as you quote me the source of yours, "Statistically, he's nowhere near productive on offense. Special teams, he's close to decent."
 
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volbrawler said:
When Cordarrelle became the number one returner, you heard no quarrels from the Vol faithful.
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Actually, this is a good example of how you are missing out. There is an enormous difference between people saying "Player X is great" and "Player X is getting unfairly panned by some people". CP was/is a GREAT return man and DY is not. See, that was easy.

Now you try- DY wasn't great but he was good enough to keep from getting beat out of KOR duties at a major SEC school long enough to become one the the statistical leaders in school history at that position. See, that should be easy...but for some people they somehow just can't spit it out.
 
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vollygirl said:
Yeah, as soon as you quote me the source of yours, "Statistically, he's nowhere near productive on offense. Special teams, he's close to decent."
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Mine was really more of an opinion, but if you'd like.

sportsreference.com - 3.9 yards rushing a game for career, 8 yards receiving a game for career. 4 TDs total.

I think the numbers stink, what is your assessment of them?
 
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hndog609 said:
Actually, this is a good example of how you are missing out. There is an enormous difference between people saying "Player X is great" and "Player X is getting unfairly panned by some people". CP was/is a GREAT return man and DY is not. See, that was easy.

Now you try- DY wasn't great but he was good enough to keep from getting beat out of KOR duties at a major SEC school long enough to become one the the statistical leaders in school history at that position. See, that should be easy...but for some people they somehow just can't spit it out.
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Good point, but you admitted it yourself, he's not that great.
 
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volbrawler said:
Mine was really more of an opinion, but if you'd like.

sportsreference.com - 3.9 yards rushing a game for career, 8 yards receiving a game for career. 4 TDs total.

I think the numbers stink, what is your assessment of them?
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My source was NCAA Public Home Page - NCAA.org.

I think you look at a number, and I look at a Tennessee Volunteer football player.

I think you're hellbent on trying to make sure you prove your point that one of our players doesn't have your approval.

Does that about sum it up?
 
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volbrawler said:
Good point, but you admitted it yourself, he's not that great.
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It's like you got it and missed it in the same sentence. It has NEVER been about DY being "great". I can't think of anyone that's argued that. There has been a number of people giving him far less credit than he deserves. It shouldn't be a difficult distinction but, bewilderingly, it is for some.
 
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vollygirl said:
My source was NCAA Public Home Page - NCAA.org.

I think you look at a number, and I look at a Tennessee Volunteer football player.

I think you're hellbent on trying to make sure you prove your point that one of our players doesn't have your approval, and I think that's pathetic.

Does that about sum it up?
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It doesn't really sum it up because my approval means nothing. I don't think he's that good of a baller, point blank. That opinion changes nothing.. He's still on roster, games are still won and lost. Simultaneously, your point is also trying to be proved. This situation is not as deep as we're making it out to be.
 
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This probably isn't the thread for yet another Devrin Young debate, and I think brawler is taking a lot of heat because his comments are probably misplaced in this particular topic since I don't see anyone not "keeping it real", but it seems we have people arguing two entirely different discussions.

Being on the team and being a college athlete is an outstanding accomplishment. Having attended high school in Knoxville, I'm sure running through the T for four years is a dream come true for Devrin and I applaud him --- and every other guy on the team for that matter who made it this far. I think all that goes without saying for most of us. However, debating a player's talent and statistical "success" in the SEC at a program such as Tennessee is a completely different discussion altogether.

Also, I think success depends on expectations. I think Devrin was always projected to be mostly a role player for the Vols. And like PJ said, he's held down a return job during most of his tenure here when he's been healthy. But if you compare his rushing and receiving stats during his career, or put him up against the most dynamic returners in the game, I don't think anyone would consider him "elite." That's just truth. But given his talent set and what he was asked to do, he did an admirable job and gave his all for Tennessee. As volview pointed out, it wasn't too long ago that Tennessee didn't have a player on the roster who could field a punt, or so it seemed.

Now I'm going to bed. :)

I wonder if there's any chance he could make it back for a bowl game?
 
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i would say if we make a bowl he might play in it. but otherwise he is done playing here.
 
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volbrawler said:
Can we just keep it real in the thread for once? Devrin was not a good football player. Four years later and he has less than 200 yards rushing, and less than 150 receiving. Say what you want about him working his butt off, but it didn't help him get in the starting lineup.
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he could catch a punt :)
 
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volbrawler said:
Lastly, I am in no way arguing that Devrin Young is not a hard working young man who has contributed to this football program. I'm just saying he is definitely not as good as we are saying he is.
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The way you worded your OP is what has ruffled feathers. Your statement of 'keeping it real, he's not a good football player (paraphrased)' is inaccurate and not a critique. It's an opinion that most would disagree with. He's not next level talent but he is good enough to be on this team.
 
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Guys Volbrawler is right, Devrin sucks. Lookup Volbrawler's stats on sports reference. He was a baller when he played here at UT.................
 
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Freak said:
As volview pointed out, it wasn't too long ago that Tennessee didn't have a player on the roster who could field a punt, or so it seemed.
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It was so bad there were times we didn't even drop a return man back there.
 
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Freak said:
I wonder if there's any chance he could make it back for a bowl game?
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This. I made the thread originally to see if anyone heard how Devrin was recovering and if he was ahead/behind schedule. Solid post Freak, not sure anyone ever said DY was elite though, he was an above average returner.
 
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iKrager said:
Solid post Freak, not sure anyone ever said DY was elite though, he was an above average returner.
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Youre right. No one said he was elite. I was just trying making a point regarding his performance, but it was late. :)
 
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