Another Government Shutdown Thread

#576
#576
Ashevolle said:
I really do not think you're as stupid as your comment here would indicate.
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It wasn’t a comment. It was question attempting to ascertain what the meaning was behind your comment.

I suspect you have no idea, explaining the half-assed attempt at the insult. While I don’t know, my guess about the comment I questioned you about, is it was nothing more than a regurgitated phrase you ran across with no idea if it had any context per the discussion.
 
#581
#581
GroverCleveland said:
It wasn’t a comment. It was question attempting to ascertain what the meaning was behind your comment.

I suspect you have no idea, explaining the half-assed attempt at the insult. While I don’t know, my guess about the comment I questioned you about, is it was nothing more than a regurgitated phrase you ran across with no idea if it had any context per the discussion.
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Nevermind, you might be that stupid. You must be slow if you think coming at me the way you did could be interpreted in anyway as an earnest attempt at understanding me or my thoughts.
 
#583
#583
Ashevolle said:
Placing blame for the shutdown on both parties isn't centrist?
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Sure, but that isn’t what you posted. You mentioned the Republicans 3 times and what they could do and how they won’t budge and you mentioned the democrats once and said “can you blame them for exercising what little power they have. That isn’t Centrist.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Sure, but that isn’t what you posted. You mentioned the Republicans 3 times and what they could do and how they won’t budge and you mentioned the democrats once and said “can you blame them for exercising what little power they have. That isn’t Centrist.
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So are you saying to be centrist, I can never criticize any action by either side without also saying something negative in the same breath about the other side? What kind of DEI BS is that.

You're not the arbiter of who is or is not a centrist. MAGA is extreme and in no way conservative. A conservative approach would be to negotiate here, not hold the country hostage.
 
#585
#585
Ashevolle said:
So are you saying to be centrist, I can never criticize any action by either side without also saying something negative in the same breath about the other side? What kind of DEI BS is that.

You're not the arbiter of who is or is not a centrist. MAGA is extreme and in no way conservative. A conservative approach would be to negotiate here, not hold the country hostage.
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so, as a centrist, what are the Dems doing to negotiate?

what have they come out and said "fine, we will give up on these items to get the country going again"?
 
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Ashevolle said:
So are you saying to be centrist, I can never criticize any action by either side without also saying something negative in the same breath about the other side? What kind of DEI BS is that.

You're not the arbiter of who is or is not a centrist. MAGA is extreme and in no way conservative. A conservative approach would be to negotiate here, not hold the country hostage.
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You are close to being centrist as I am to being an ISIS fighter
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Republicans are in charge. The shutdown is 100% theirs. They have zero adult leadership. This is a grift to try and get Trump's numbers close to 40% approval so he can brag about it "skyrocketing". Millions impacted by not getting paid, food welfare, veterans care, etc, aren't blaming dims. This is all ammo for the midterms. Republicans are not thinking the long game at all. The full blown TDS meltdown next year is going to be impressive.
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Republicans along with Fetterman and one or two more democrats have voted like 15 times now to reopen the Government.

This is all on dems and there love of illegal trespassing foreigners. Maybe democrats should try supporting Americans for a change.
 
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#588
Ashevolle said:
Nevermind, you might be that stupid. You must be slow if you think coming at me the way you did could be interpreted in anyway as an earnest attempt at understanding me or my thoughts.
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Thanks. You have confirmed my original idea about your post.
 
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LouderVol said:
so, as a centrist, what are the Dems doing to negotiate?

what have they come out and said "fine, we will give up on these items to get the country going again"?
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Exercising the little leverage they have to force a negotiation. It's either that or roll over and do nothing. That's their only two options here.
 
#591
#591
Ashevolle said:
Exercising the little leverage they have to force a negotiation. It's either that or roll over and do nothing. That's their only two options here.
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Wrong, they can start doing the right things in the American public eye and regain the majority to exercise their agenda. What they are doing is the spoiled child thing of I will take my ball and go home. It is extortion politics for personal gain at the expense of the people. I don't know just how stupid they think the American people are! They will pay a heavy price at the next election for this charade.
 
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Ashevolle said:
So are you saying to be centrist, I can never criticize any action by either side without also saying something negative in the same breath about the other side? What kind of DEI BS is that.

You're not the arbiter of who is or is not a centrist. MAGA is extreme and in no way conservative. A conservative approach would be to negotiate here, not hold the country hostage.
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The conservative approach is doing what they are doing. Capitulation to the current left wing extortion attempt is weakness but it's what you leftist want.
 
#597
#597
This thread cracks me up. It’s like no one gets it anymore, we’re conditioned to it now and that’s just downright sad. Everybody blaming one side or the other when it’s our own damn fault for letting us get here.

Somewhere along the way the voting populace of this country forgot a vital fact, that fact being that if you give the government the power to feed you then you also give them the power to starve you. F*** em all!
 
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Redleg68 said:
Wrong, they can start doing the right things in the American public eye and regain the majority to exercise their agenda. What they are doing is the spoiled child thing of I will take my ball and go home. It is extortion politics for personal gain at the expense of the people. I don't know just how stupid they think the American people are! They will pay a heavy price at the next election for this charade.
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Voters hold the incumbent party responsible when they're unhappy with the government.
 
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