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NorthDallas40 said:
I don’t think the commerce clause actually gives the Fed the power to directly force I think it’s more of a carrot/stick approach. They can use the commerce clause to punish them for not doing their bidding. That is the stick in the DPA.
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It gives them the ability to remove barriers to movement of goods. A smart lawyer could likely make a compelling argument
 
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utvolpj said:
It gives them the ability to remove barriers to movement of goods. A smart lawyer could likely make a compelling argument
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But I think that’s basically the same thing. Adding/removing barriers. I don’t think the Fed can say “start putting out chicken/pork/beef or you’re going to jail” but they can say “your meat processing capacity is hereby deemed essential and by the regulations outlined in the Defense Protection Act you are hereby ordered to open operations back up or be subject to the sanctions outlined in the DPA.”
 
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1972 Grad said:
So, we're fat shaming now? F***ing bigot.
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Feelz. Your hypocrisy is mind boggling considering you have never called out the Impeached President for his derogatory and incendiary remarks. Carry on and let me know when your personal behavior is in line with your moral outrage.
 
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TN Ribs said:
Feelz. Your hypocrisy is mind boggling considering you have never called out the Impeached President for his derogatory and incendiary remarks. Carry on and let me know when your personal behavior is in line with your moral outrage.
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Why should I call him out for anything? There are already too many of you crazy f***ers who do it on an hourly basis.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Where in muh Constitution does it give the president the authority to manage chicken plants?
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I’ve been saying this since it started ... people need to stop wishing for more federal involvement. All the levers are pull now for the government to take over and demand any business to do its bidding . There’s a national emergency in play , the war powers act is in play , there is only one more thing it can do and that’s declare martial law . How do you not know this ?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
But I’d guess the DPA gives him the authority to declare the food supply essential if he choses to try to force them to stay open.
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The DPA isn't in the Constitution.

If you're going to play a strict Constitutionalist in order to give Trump a pass for doing nothing, follow through with it.

Where in Article II does it grant the president the authority to keep chicken factories open?
 
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1972 Grad said:
Why should I call him out for anything? There are already too many of you crazy f***ers who do it on an hourly basis.
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Side stepping the moral equivalency argument only proves your fealty to Trump. You should think about re-calibrating your ability to think independently, right now you are simply a robot lacking critical thought. Note to Trump supporters: you can never claim the moral higher ground on anything, ever again.
 
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Velo Vol said:
The DPA isn't in the Constitution.

If you're going to play a strict Constitutionalist in order to give Trump a pass for doing nothing, follow through with it.

Where in Article II does it grant the president the authority to keep chicken factories open?
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While I disagree with the ruling the Rehnquist court said the 10th. You miss my post?
 
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0nelilreb said:
I’ve been saying this since it started ... people need to stop wishing for more federal involvement. All the levers are pull now for the government to take over and demand any business to do its bidding . There’s a national emergency in play , the war powers act is in play , there is only one more thing it can do and that’s declare martial law . How do you not know this ?
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See I disagree with this but at least its a consistent view of the Constitution.
 
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Rules are for the little people

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Velo Vol said:
See I disagree with this but at least its a consistent view of the Constitution.
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Our government has a tremendous amount of power but certain levers have to be pulled in order for it to override states rights . These levers go up in strength National emergency , War powers act , and then the “Mack daddy “ Martial law . We really really need to keep them from pulling that last lever . The war powers act is bad enough , but that last one is full on , full throttle power . I don’t think any of us wants any president to be in full control of a country.
 
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Velo Vol said:
The DPA isn't in the Constitution.

If you're going to play a strict Constitutionalist in order to give Trump a pass for doing nothing, follow through with it.

Where in Article II does it grant the president the authority to keep chicken factories open?
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My God you are all over the damn place today. Nothing I said conflicts with the constitution. And yes via the DPA I’d guess he has the authority to declare the food supply essential and bring the authority of the DPA to bear.

Have any of your leftist heroes been screeching on any constitutionality here? Have you been able to find a tweet?
 
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0nelilreb said:
Our government has a tremendous amount of power but certain levers have to be pulled in order for it to override states rights . These levers go up in strength National emergency , War powers act , and then the “Mack daddy “ Martial law . We really really need to keep them from pulling that last lever . The war powers act is bad enough , but that last one is full on , full throttle power . I don’t think any of us wants any president to be in full control of a country.
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I think you’re crossed on your particular government overreach which applies lilreb. The War Powers Act actually puts limits on POTUS with regards to committing military forces to combat without congressional concurrence. The Defense Protection Act allows the Feds to direct the supply chain and production but doesn’t outright nationalize private industry the companies are paid for their efforts and products which the Feds have ordered them to produce.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I think you’re crossed on your particular government overreach which applies lilreb. The War Powers Act actually puts limits on POTUS with regards to committing military forces to combat without congressional concurrence. The Defense Protection Act allows the Feds to direct the supply chain and production but doesn’t outright nationalize private industry the companies are paid for their efforts and products which the Feds have ordered them to produce.
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Yes my bad the DPA and the WPA are different acts .
 
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