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#10,856
luthervol said:
Of course it has merit. You would have been justified in comparing Hillary to any of the other 16 rep. candidates, but there is no comparison to Trump. No matter how hard you wish it to be otherwise.
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This is why other posters see you as foolish and deluded. As much as you want to blame a decades long propaganda campaign against her, it's not true. Hillary is as garbage a human being as Trump. Potentially worse. That is truth, no matter how hard you wish otherwise.
 
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Purple Tiger said:
According to DC's sodomy laws, Clinton did nothing illegal.
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LOL, what Clinton did that was illegal is lie under oath. No one has ever said his affair with Monica was illegal. But what he did with Monica was adultery, so check the morality arguments at the door.
 
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#10,858
Weezer said:
LOL, what Clinton did that was illegal is lie under oath. No one has ever said his affair with Monica was illegal. But what he did with Monica was adultery, so check the morality arguments at the door.
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Morality is on a continuum. Clinton's adultery certainly moved him in the wrong direction, but adultery is the least repulsive of Trump's morality issues. Trump is far more immoral/amoral.
Had Trump testified under oath, what do you think would be the over/under on the number of lies he would tell? I say 18.
 
#10,861
#10,861
Weezer said:
This is why other posters see you as foolish and deluded. As much as you want to blame a decades long propaganda campaign against her, it's not true. Hillary is as garbage a human being as Trump. Potentially worse. That is truth, no matter how hard you wish otherwise.
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We will never agree on this point. I don't mind being seen as foolish and delusional by some, those opinions are telling.
 
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#10,867
Purple Tiger said:
Of course not. But the basis of the whole mess was that Republican gargoyle who made a BJ into a political crisis.
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Clinton lied under oath regarding the Paula Jones case. He was being sued for sexual harassment. It wasn't a case of a "Republican gargoyle" turning a "BJ into a political crisis". Unlike with Trump, there was actual proof Clinton had lied. Hell, he ended up admitting he lied. And in the end, he got away with it. Impeachment itself is toothless when the Senate refuses to convict despite ample evidence of a crime. For years, Dems have continued to blame the GOP because Clinton decided to lie rather than tell the truth. It's a ridiculous game of placing the blame everywhere except for where it should be. Bill Clinton decided to lie under oath. What came of it falls on his shoulders.
 
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#10,868
luthervol said:
Morality is on a continuum. Clinton's adultery certainly moved him in the wrong direction, but adultery is the least repulsive of Trump's morality issues. Trump is far more immoral/amoral.
Had Trump testified under oath, what do you think would be the over/under on the number of lies he would tell? I say 18.
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And if he lied under oath you'd have justification for impeachment. I'd support it. But he didn't, and as is, you have zilch to impeach him on.

And as far as your continuum goes, I'd say your scale is broken.
 
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#10,869
luthervol said:
We will never agree on this point. I don't mind being seen as foolish and delusional by some, those opinions are telling.
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As telling as your own ridiculous arguments. I have to assume you intentionally troll as many of your arguments abandon reason. You have the ability to use logic, I've seen it, but you often choose to go with your feels instead.
 
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#10,871
Weezer said:
And if he lied under oath you'd have justification for impeachment. I'd support it. But he didn't, and as is, you have zilch to impeach him on.

And as far as your continuum goes, I'd say your scale is broken.
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Had Trump testified under oath, how likely is it that he would have committed perjury? (In your opinion)
 
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#10,874
luthervol said:
Had Trump testified under oath, how likely is it that he would have committed perjury? (In your opinion)
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Likely, but I believe that of all politicians. You can't impeach on "ifs". Hypotheticals and imaginary crimes don't count.
 
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#10,875
Weezer said:
And if he lied under oath you'd have justification for impeachment. I'd support it. But he didn't, and as is, you have zilch to impeach him on.

And as far as your continuum goes, I'd say your scale is broken.
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There's more than a sufficient basis for impeachment. He's an unindicted co-conspirator with Cohen on the campaign finance crime (a felony, to which Cohen already pleaded guilty) and on obstruction (also a felony). Both would be "high crimes and misdemeanors."

To date over 700 former prosecutors, many Republican prosecutors included, have said the facts alleged in the Mueller report were sufficient to bring an obstruction indictment.
 
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