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NurseGoodVol said:
I didn't say anything about the road to globalism, which is where we were headed, limiting freedom. I said total globalism is the death of sovereignty. Total Globalism is the destruction of the US, attacks on the constitution will follow, ( 2A attacks currently happening) this follows loss of personal rights and freedoms. We get to that point, it's waaay too late.
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Not sure what world stage you're looking at. The one I see we've had the biggest hand at the negotiating table for four generations. The agreements that we've been instrumental in drafting have benefited Americans (or at least American corporations) immensely.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
This assumes that our glorious DOJ is an honest, unbiased trustworthy department that only has the interests of true justice in mind. Do we have faith that’s the case?
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That's putting an idealized gloss over it. But I believe the DoJ is generally capable of carrying out investigations under our system of law.
 
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Velo Vol said:
That's putting an idealized gloss over it. But I believe the DoJ is generally capable of carrying out investigations under our system of law.
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As a reasonable person you have to question McCabe's story of how a group of LEOs planned how they might remove the sitting POTUS - that's a bold move that should require some slam dunk evidence.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Remind me which specific FISA warrant was obtained solely on the basis of the dossier? That is, with no other evidence outside that document?
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According to McCabe the FISA warrants on Page were dependent upon the dossier (Congressional testimony).

More to the point, Nurse pointed out some issues related to the dossier and you responded by saying she left out all the indictments.

Here's another way to ask - which of the indictments are charges of conspiring with the Russians vis a vis the election?
 
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Velo Vol said:
Not sure what world stage you're looking at. The one I see we've had the biggest hand at the negotiating table for four generations. The agreements that we've been instrumental in drafting have benefited Americans (or at least American corporations) immensely.
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While we were talking it up the tailpipe and financing other countries at a pretty sizable loss?
 
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volinbham said:
which of those match the accusations in the dossier? do any?
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I'm curious where all this support for prosecuting false statements was when Dems were making them during the Obama administration. Apparently it's only a crime if someone associated with Trump does it.
 
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Weezer said:
It hasn't succeeded simply because he hasn't done anything impeachable. Simply being a despicable person isn't grounds for removal from office, and no matter how many liberals cry over it, that's not going to change. The left would have been better off simply planning a better strategy for 2020. Instead they decided to throw a temper tantrum.
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I agree he cannot be thrown out just over being the douche canoe he is. Given everything that has happened so far, seems like you Trump supporters may have some serious soul searching to do this summer.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree he cannot be thrown out just over being the douche canoe he is. Given everything that has happened so far, seems like you Trump supporters may have some serious soul searching to do this summer.
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I'm not convinced they are able, or maybe they are just not willing.
 
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Carlos Danger will be running around free again before long. Maybe he'll run for Mayor of NYC again.
I'm sure w/his great popularity among the Democrats he'll win by a landslide if he chooses to run for office.
Carlos Danger.....a Democrat to the bone.
 
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volinbham said:
As a reasonable person you have to question McCabe's story of how a group of LEOs planned how they might remove the sitting POTUS - that's a bold move that should require some slam dunk evidence.
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I agree more evidence is needed. I found after being silent for a year McCabe coming out made my head tilt. Why now? Was he pressed to do so and by whom? With basically the top echelon of the fbi gone, who has spilled what? Makes my head spin.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I agree more evidence is needed. I found after being silent for a year McCabe coming out made my head tilt. Why now? Was he pressed to do so and by whom? With basically the top echelon of the fbi gone, who has spilled what? Makes my head spin.
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It's hard to tell the players without a program. I only hope that we eventually get to the bottom of who ordered what against whom.
 
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luthervol said:
Trump is not in the same company as the others, not even close. But yes, we will be fine.
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I see a crook , an ex-cia secret squirrel that your side hated while he was in office that said “ read my lips , no new taxes “ ( lied ) a son that was so tied up to big oil that his shoes sloshed when he walked , that also created and gave us homeland security , a saxophone player that has more sexual assault allegations than toes , who cut a deal with North Korea to allow them to keep building their nuke program telling us that “ it’s a great deal for America “ while playing the cigar game with an intern in the Oval Office . Last but certainly not least we have Barry the great community organizer , he brought us a health care system that he knew was broken when he forced it down our throats along with the apology tour of Europe , knowing that the Russians was trying to tamper with our elections but keeping it from the American people until the election was over , weaponizing the IRS and creating programs that wasn’t in his power to create by using the phone and pen . Do tell ... what high standards are you holding Trump up to that I have missed that would allow him to be in this company of misfits ?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree he cannot be thrown out just over being the douche canoe he is. Given everything that has happened so far, seems like you Trump supporters may have some serious soul searching to do this summer.
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So do the democrats, they only have till June to figure out who's going to run against him. Primaries are going to be interesting. Tying 30 cats tails together and see who comes out intact, or at the very least, not dead after they are done clawing each others eyes out.
 
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1972 Grad said:
It's hard to tell the players without a program. I only hope that we eventually get to the bottom of who ordered what against whom.
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I hold very little hope that many involved would be charged properly with more than just process crimes. I think i can safely say, the organization that runs this country is known for protecting their own or giving a slap on the wrist.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I hold very little hope that many involved would be charged properly with more than just process crimes. I think i can safely say, the organization that runs this country is known for protecting their own or giving a slap on the wrist.
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Who will investigate the investigators?
 
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0nelilreb said:
I see a crook , an ex-cia secret squirrel that your side hated while he was in office that said “ read my lips , no new taxes “ ( lied ) a son that was so tied up to big oil that his shoes sloshed when he walked , that also crated and gave us homeland security , a saxophone player that has more sexual assault allegations than toes , who cut a deal with North Korea to allow them to keep building their nuke program telling us that “ it’s a great deal for America “ while playing the cigar game with an intern in the Oval Office . Last but certainly not least we have Barry the great community organizer , he brought us a health care system that he knew was broken when he forced it down our throats along with the apology tour of Europe , knowing that the Russians was trying to tamper with our elections but keeping it from the American people until the election was over , weaponizing the IRS and creating programs that wasn’t in his power to create by using the phone and pen . Do tell ... what high standards are you holding Trump up to that I have missed that would allow him to be in this company of misfits ?
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He;s an habitual liar.
He tried to undermine a sitting president through lies and propagating a conspiracy theory.
He led his minions in chants of "lock her up" during the primaries.
He has gaslighted the American public and called the press "the enemy of the people".
He has alienated our allies.
He was screwing a porn star while his 3rd wife was giving birth to his 5th child.
He repeatedly lied to the public about hush money payments to her and at least one other.
He lied to the public about his role in drafting the lie used as cover for the hotel meeting.
He hired Steve Bannon.
He lied to the American public about business dealings with Russia.
He lied to the American public about ties between Russia and his staff.
He publicly accepted Putin's word over the word of our intelligence communities.
He picked Bannon, Manafort, and Stone as strategists and advisers
He continually lied about his willingness to release his tax returns.
 
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