All Worried about Bray

#28
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rockytop9808 said:
But, dude, it was Bama, man.
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It was Vandy wearing Bammer uniforms. Team was garbage.

What's funny is, I tried to look up and see if that was Bammer's worst record ever, and there's so many 0-12s and 1-11s from all the cheating I can't ascertain what's even real.
 
#29
#29
Peyton was in a three way QB race as a freshman, seems like people forget that. I'm sure it because of his greatness since, but he didn't blow anyone away in the begining. Bray was the guy of the future from the get go and once he got a chance he did better than anyone expected. Obviously he won't reach the Peyton level but I don't think there'll be a Cromptonesque drop off either.
 
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tkemo said:
Peyton was in a three way QB race as a freshman, seems like people forget that. I'm sure it because of his greatness since, but he didn't blow anyone away in the begining. Bray was the guy of the future from the get go and once he got a chance he did better than anyone expected. Obviously he won't reach the Peyton level but I don't think there'll be a Cromptonesque drop off either.
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Improbable? Sure. Impossible? No. Dude just got started.
 
#31
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tkemo said:
Peyton was in a three way QB race as a freshman, seems like people forget that. I'm sure it because of his greatness since, but he didn't blow anyone away in the begining. Bray was the guy of the future from the get go and once he got a chance he did better than anyone expected. Obviously he won't reach the Peyton level but I don't think there'll be a Cromptonesque drop off either.
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I'll be happy if he reaches the Tony Robinson level without the coke.
 
#32
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I don't worry about his practice performance because there is this one word that describes him that you want every player on the team apply to them:

Gamer.
 
#33
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YorkVol said:
I'll be happy if he reaches the Tony Robinson level without the coke.
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Tony was the best QB to ever play at Tennessee. Manning was great and has excelled in the pro's but Robinson was the greatest game day QB the Vols have ever had. The '84 Bama game and '85 Auburn games he simply willed the Vols to win.
 
#34
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1974Vol said:
Tony was the best QB to ever play at Tennessee. Manning was great and has excelled in the pro's but Robinson was the greatest game day QB the Vols have ever had. The '84 Bama game and '85 Auburn games he simply willed the Vols to win.
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EEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSSYYYYYYY now. No way Robinson should even be considered in the same class as Manning.
 
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1974Vol said:
Tony was the best QB to ever play at Tennessee. Manning was great and has excelled in the pro's but Robinson was the greatest game day QB the Vols have ever had. The '84 Bama game and '85 Auburn games he simply willed the Vols to win.
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'Sup Greer, SC
 
#36
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gnm53108 said:
Casey beat bama as a freshman.

I'd have to give him the better freshman year.
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Here, let me try again. Try to actually read what I wrote this time before replying thx bye

Bray had the most freshman success passing against those four bad teams of any UT quarterback in the history of college football.

That's all that has to be said.

Even Peyton never had that much success in his last four starts of his first year.

That's a fact.

OK? Even Casey Clausen didn't have the stats against the soft part of his freshman schedule that Bray had. Not even close. Neither did Peyton.

YorkVol said:
The difference was Bray. In his own way, Tyler Bray lit a fire in the offense that wasn't there most of the year and the results followed. .
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Exactly.

volatil said:
EEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSSYYYYYYY now. No way Robinson should even be considered in the same class as Manning.
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You obviously never saw Robinson play. He was an absolute phenomenon.
 
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volatil said:
EEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSSYYYYYYY now. No way Robinson should even be considered in the same class as Manning.
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That's your take on it, some people have different takes. Peyton never did beat the Gators. but Tee Martin did. Further he is all-time leader in career winning percentage (.880). That's all time. Now Tony Robinson didn't do more because he blew out his knee. Taking nothing away from Manning, it being I'm a fan of his, blind loyalty is, well, blind. That being said, given the cerebral approach Manning took to the game along with his his success with it, made him a more complete quarterback sans ability to run than other Vols QBs and very likely any QB of his time. So much so I often fantasize what the 1998 team would have been like with him at QB.
 
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#38
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Negateer said:
Here, let me try again. Try to actually read what I wrote this time before replying thx bye

Bray had the most freshman success passing against those four bad teams of any UT quarterback in the history of college football.

That's all that has to be said.

Even Peyton never had that much success in his last four starts of his first year.

That's a fact.

OK? Even Casey Clausen didn't have the stats against the soft part of his freshman schedule that Bray had. Not even close. Neither did Peyton.



Exactly.



You obviously never saw Robinson play. He was an absolute phenomenon.
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I was at Legion Field when he had his knee destroyed by Cornelius Bennett. He was a great athlete and could do unbelievable things with his legs. He just wasn't that great of a passer. To each his own.
 
#39
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Negateer said:
Here, let me try again. Try to actually read what I wrote this time before replying thx bye

Bray had the most freshman success passing against those four bad teams of any UT quarterback in the history of college football.

That's all that has to be said.

Even Peyton never had that much success in his last four starts of his first year.

That's a fact.

OK? Even Casey Clausen didn't have the stats against the soft part of his freshman schedule that Bray had. Not even close. Neither did Peyton.


Didnt mean to hit a nerve.

You are right about the "stats" Bray had against the last four opponents of the year....He was awsome.

I just put alot of weight on wins. Especially a win over the bammers. So IMO Casey had the better freshman year.
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volatil said:
I was at Legion Field when he had his knee destroyed by Cornelius Bennett. He was a great athlete and could do unbelievable things with his legs. He just wasn't that great of a passer. To each his own.
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I was 12 and coincidentally this was the first time I heard the "F" word; heard someone call my mom a **ore; see my Dad get in a fight; and caught the fever for Big Orange Football! That play Dale Jones made may be the best play in school history. One of the best memories I have with my Dad.
 
#44
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1974Vol said:
Tony was the best QB to ever play at Tennessee. Manning was great and has excelled in the pro's but Robinson was the greatest game day QB the Vols have ever had. The '84 Bama game and '85 Auburn games he simply willed the Vols to win.
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Rascist.IMO
 
#45
#45
Not that it means anything, but go look at those teams Bray wore out. Look at all the other QBs that played those teams. Did any others put up those numbers? Did Murray? Did Brantley? Good QB is expected vs bad teams, and from what I see, he out played most. Teamwise, UT is not there yet, but the dude could do some amazing things. Maybe not, but like it was said, people are excited over what he may do. Potential is the key word. Hard to argue he can't do it vs better teams because he beat up on bad ones when he had his chance. Had he played bad vs those, then I would be worried
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#46
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triadvolfan said:
What's crazy to me is the people being critical of him are mostly basing it on the stats coming out of a few practices that they weren't even allowed to see. And the people who did see it (the coaches) don't seem nearly as concerned as they are. Then they turn around and say you can't trust what he did last year because it was against crappy defenses.

So we're supposed to take a positive impression we formed of Bray based on 5 games we actually saw and replace it with a negative impression of him based on a few practices we didn't see and the coaches don't seem too worked up about. My head hurts.

The jury is still out on Bray but I'm sure not going to start worrying over his practice stats. I'll start worrying if he throws a lot of picks in an actual game.

And yes, the love for Tyler Wilson is ridiculous when it comes to the wait and see approach people are taking with Bray. Wilson's predicted success seems to rely on an assumption that Petrino and his system will field a good QB. Chaney has a similar track record but that would require commentators to remember what happened in college football prior to 2007 and that's a lot to ask of these guys.
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Great post. Thanks.
 
#47
#47
I like the fact that Bray doesn't give a flying )$)*#)$**#)$+#&&#)@_!!!! Lookout Florida.
 
#48
#48
99bubble said:
Here's my take on all the talk about Bray. When was the last time we had a QB to speculate about? We have a guy who simply tore it up last year when he played. He'll take a step forward this year and Chaney will do a good job with him. All of the talking right now has me thinking....maybe TN is relevant again...and that's a good thing.
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We all thought Ainge was gonna win a national title for us...didn't work out. After freshman year, he went down
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This is pretty funny:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6WmFyjpc9M[/youtube]
 
#50
#50
HardKnoxVol said:
We all thought Ainge was gonna win a national title for us...didn't work out. After freshman year, he went down
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We all?

Really?

Are you sure there weren't some of us screaming at the rest of you that Ainge was a veritable pick-machine? A supreme chokester? A blight on the team?

I know I did. I know rasputin vol did.

So, not ALL.

Anyway...tirade over. :loco:
 
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