Alexis Johnson at practice

[RollerVol]

Omg he used a players name only for a thread tittle the world is ending!!!! And I originally misspelled title no!!

banned for life...lol:

GO VOLS!

 

[Biopsyman]

Wait ?!?! I thought he committed to LSU ?!

Lloyd lives

 

[walkenvol]

. No time to work individually with Alexis.

I know the NCAA limits the number of hours the team is allowed to practice - seems like 25 hours per week might be the number? Does anyone know if that number is for each player or total time the coaches can be on the field? Could Johnson not attend regular practice with the team and instead get individual practice time?

Might be tough as there'd be no one to go against. Could be some benefit for part of his practice time to be individual possibly?

 

[LWSVOL]

Would you red shirt him?

I think that is likely.

If you get into October undefeated and he is up to speed to help and you have a need of the help, then you play him. If the need not there then having in 17-18 could be a good move.

 

[LWSVOL]

I think we are better off at DT than OT

agree.

 

[LWSVOL]

What's the Tuttle redshirt talk when all I've heard from coaches is he is right on schedule. Did I miss something?? GO VOLS!!!

What is the schedule? The coaches keep saying that but him being ready for the two deep is that September 1? October 1? Next season?

I've not seen anywhere or heard anywhere what that schedule date is. Its great he is on schedule. Just would love to know the due date.

 

[LWSVOL]

I know the NCAA limits the number of hours the team is allowed to practice - seems like 25 hours per week might be the number? Does anyone know if that number is for each player or total time the coaches can be on the field? Could Johnson not attend regular practice with the team and instead get individual practice time?

Might be tough as there'd be no one to go against. Could be some benefit for part of his practice time to be individual possibly?

its 20 hours and that includes the time for a game. its cumulative. Spending one hour with Johnson is like spending one hour with all in the position.

Getting to game prep really limits the time kids can get ready to help that have been behind. Being injured and missing fall camp most times puts kids way behind for the entire season and they help very little. Johnson is further behind then Tuttle because he has no exposure at all to the defense. Plus, Stripling and Shoop have no idea how Johnson responds as an SEC player. They don't know if he can do it or not until he gets on the practice field. Huge unknown right there.

Edit: Perfect example of that unknown, Blair.

 

[volinbama256]

Tuttle will not redshirt and will probably come in the FL game on a limited snap basis and will be worked in slowly... AJ will probably be ready enough to take 10-20 snaps by FL and will be worked in slowly as well depending on his conditioning. He is a JUCO and already knows what it takes in the trenches... if he is really the #3 DT, he probably has a descent to good football IQ already and will be able to add backup depth to give the starters a breather. I know he needs to learn our system, but some of you are acting like he is a true freshman playing college ball for the first time. With the knowledge he has already from JUCO, his athleticism will allow for a quick learn of our system so it will all come down to his conditioning and how many snaps he can take. Hopefully the kid has stayed somewhat in good shape(that should be on him) and not on the couch(or he has no business being on scholarship) and he will get in football shape sooner than later.

 

[LA vol7]

Well I'll be damned.....that only took 4 months after his charges were essentially dropped and he was cleared. And btw, this was not a shot at Butch, it's a shot at the ridiculously laborious, unnecessarily drawn out and unfair process that both Alexis and Von have now gone through. Ok....I'm done.

and how long did it take Satan to get Cam robinson and the other dude cleared of drug possession and possession of an illegal firearm? Clearly, our coaching staff has some work to do (Blue font)

 

[vol72]

This is coming from someone who never played on the defensive line. As a DT how much is there to learn in terms of coverages and alignments? It seems like there wouldn't be a whole lot, but I was always on O so I have no idea...

Defensive Tackles are not saddled with learning so much "coverages and alignments", as they are in developing proper technique. His learning curve is dependent upon how much he must assimilate in his new situation. Juco linemen are not necessarily advanced in technique, but Johnson could be ready to go in short order if his basic technique only needs limited refinement.

 

[KBVol]

Redshirt....... "get your redshirt here".

Agree. Don't waste an entire year of the kid's eligibility when he's probably not gonna be in any shape to help at all until mid season. We're a little thin at DT, but KMac, Obrien, Vickers, Tuttle, Picou and some DEs in special packages (Kongbo, Mixon and Barnett) can hold it down for now. Just don't see how Alexis helps at all this season. Jmo.

 

[KBVol]

and how long did it take Satan to get Cam robinson and the other dude cleared of drug possession and possession of an illegal firearm? Clearly, our coaching staff has some work to do (Blue font)

7 minutes and 54 seconds iirc.

 

[bigorange]

I think he is weeks away from even starting to get practice reps. Once they get to game preps (starts this week) there is even less time for coaches to work with him to get him up to speed with system. All that after he starts practice.

He may very well play before end of year but I think at this point it is a long shot..

Just wanted to see that part again. Sorry not sorry.

 

[Biopsyman]

Everyone acts as if he has been laying around getting fat like us... I bet he is great shape but needs to get into football shape.. Wont take long

 

[Skullbone]

I think it'll be a wait and see what happens decision by the coaches. I think if no one gets hurt and Tuttle is able to contribute by SEC time they'll try and redshirt Johnson to save him another year and get the most production out of him. But, if things don't go perfectly for Tuttle's return or if someone else gets dinged up that redshirt will be burned.

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

MIKE GRIFFITH
SEC Country

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Junior college transfer Alexis Johnson is practicing with the Tennessee football team one week after a UT student judicial panel ruled that student conduct charges against him were unfounded.

Johnson had been suspended from all team activities since February, when he was charged with aggravated assault and false imprisonment of his ex-girlfriend.

The false imprisonment charge was dropped in April, at which time the Knox County district attorney also reached a resolution for the assault charge to be reduced from a felony to a to a misdemeanor.

Johnson is scheduled back in court on Oct. 10, at which time the assault charge could be dropped altogether.

Tennessee coach Butch Jones was vague when asked what criteria Johnson must satisfy to be eligible to play and in good standing. Johnson’s name had not been added back to the Vols’ official roster at the time of this story.

“That’s between Alexis and myself, and our administration and our football program, the expectations with him and his family,” Jones said following Thursday’s practice on Haslam Field. “They understand the expectations. He’s really only had a couple weeks in our program, so we have to get to know him.”

Jones went on to say that Johnson will have to go through the same summer conditioning programs as the rostered players, and that there is no timetable for Johnson to return.

Johnson, originally from Mount Zion High School in Georgia and rated the No. 3 JUCO defensive tackle coming out of Fort Scott (Kansas) Community College in the 2016 class, has maintained his class load throughout his suspension.

“He did very well in the classroom last semester,” Jones said, “but it’s a day by day process.”

Me thinks...

 

[swchandler1988]

Agree. Don't waste an entire year of the kid's eligibility when he's probably not gonna be in any shape to help at all until mid season. We're a little thin at DT, but KMac, Obrien, Vickers, Tuttle, Picou and some DEs in special packages (Kongbo, Mixon and Barnett) can hold it down for now. Just don't see how Alexis helps at all this season. Jmo.

So what if any of these guys get hurt? Picou is undersized (though he did get up to 277 lbs this off season), Tuttle should be fine but that's still somewhat of a question mark coming off of injury. Lets take away Obrien, say he gets hurt. Then it would be Kmac, Vickers, Tuttle and Picou. I'm pretty sure Strip know's it wouldn't be smart to knowingly put yourself in a potentially realy dangerous spot. Look at Bama's and LSU's depth at DT. We need Johnson, even if it is only for half a season. If we're as good as we look on paper having him in a post season run would be huge.

Tuttle will not redshirt and will probably come in the FL game on a limited snap basis and will be worked in slowly... AJ will probably be ready enough to take 10-20 snaps by FL and will be worked in slowly as well depending on his conditioning. He is a JUCO and already knows what it takes in the trenches... if he is really the #3 DT, he probably has a descent to good football IQ already and will be able to add backup depth to give the starters a breather. I know he needs to learn our system, but some of you are acting like he is a true freshman playing college ball for the first time. With the knowledge he has already from JUCO, his athleticism will allow for a quick learn of our system so it will all come down to his conditioning and how many snaps he can take. Hopefully the kid has stayed somewhat in good shape(that should be on him) and not on the couch(or he has no business being on scholarship) and he will get in football shape sooner than later.

This ^^ He's been playing 2 years of college ball already (albeit Juco). But let's look at Kamara. Granted, Kamara is an extremely talented guy. But all we had to base his talent from starting last season was his JUCO performances. Back to my point, Kamara was two years removed from high school, had grown into his body, there was no growing phase that he needed once he got here. Johnson is a man, not a 17-18 year old freshman who got his high school diploma last May.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Me thinks...

Why redshirt? When need DT depth now.

 

[LWSVOL]

its right here folks.

Jones went on to say that Johnson will have to go through the same summer conditioning programs as the rostered players, and that there is no timetable for Johnson to return.

he is not in shape. staff knows he has a long way to go

 

[swchandler1988]

its right here folks.

Jones went on to say that Johnson will have to go through the same summer conditioning programs as the rostered players, and that there is no timetable for Johnson to return.

he is not in shape. staff knows he has a long way to go

Is he ready to play Bama tomorrow? No definitely not. Would he be ready to play Florida in 5 weeks? Likely. To interpret Butch saying "there's no time table for his return" as "he's fat, out of shape and will take forever to return" is ridiculous. Kmac was 17 years old last year, pushing 350lbs last year, hadn't played football in 2 years, had a serious injury in that time and didn't early enroll. He still was a big part of the line. Johnson played football last year, is 21 in October, and is absolutely in better shape than Kmac was last year.

I'm honestly perplexed at why everyone was freaking out about DT depth like a month ago, and now that we have a really good chance of having Tuttle and Johnson back (both 4 star guys) by the Florida game, seems like the majority is like "nah redshirt him, we're good with 3 good starters, one little guy and one returning from injury. should be fine for a national championship defense." Come on people this isn't rocket science.

 

[KBVol]

Everyone acts as if he has been laying around getting fat like us... I bet he is great shape but needs to get into football shape.. Wont take long

I've heard from several sources.....he can go hit Gold's gym for 6 months with a personal trainer and he's not gonna sniff the type of physical fitness and shape the rest of the roster is in from having been in our S&C program the same amount of time. He also has to learn our techniques and schemes and just generally how to play the game at this level.

Think KMac last year who, by all accounts, is a much more talented player. He was an early enrollee who got in our S&C program from day one, went through spring, fall and summer with the team....and he struggled to do much until a little later in the season. AJ is much, much further behind the 8 ball than KMac and is less talented.

Alexis just got on the practice field and game 1 is 13 days away. I could certainly be wrong, it's an inexact thing here and you never know.

I also think you have to keep the kid's best interest in mind here.....do you waste a full year of his eligibility in hopes he can contribute the last 5-6 games, maybe, when the season has pretty much already been decided? Or do you redshirt him, get him stronger, develop him so that he can be at his best for both himself and his team in 2017?

Like I said, it's inexact, you never know, guess we'll know soon enough. I'm leaning towards a redshirt from my fan/layman's perspective. I'm certain Strip and Butch will figure it out and do what's best.

 

[LWSVOL]

Is he ready to play Bama tomorrow? No definitely not. Would he be ready to play Florida in 5 weeks? Likely. To interpret Butch saying "there's no time table for his return" as "he's fat, out of shape and will take forever to return" is ridiculous. Kmac was 17 years old last year, pushing 350lbs last year, hadn't played football in 2 years, had a serious injury in that time and didn't early enroll. He still was a big part of the line. Johnson played football last year, is 21 in October, and is absolutely in better shape than Kmac was last year.

I'm honestly perplexed at why everyone was freaking out about DT depth like a month ago, and now that we have a really good chance of having Tuttle and Johnson back (both 4 star guys) by the Florida game, seems like the majority is like "nah redshirt him, we're good with 3 good starters, one little guy and one returning from injury. should be fine for a national championship defense." Come on people this isn't rocket science.

they don't even know if Alexis can play SEC football until he shows he can at practice. If he isn't ready it could take a lot of time, if at all. Remember Blair?

So while some are saying redshirt and maybe they are not right, it may not be right to expect him to help either.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

they don't even know if Alexis can play SEC football until he shows he can at practice. If he isn't ready it could take a lot of time, if at all. Remember Blair?

So while some are saying redshirt and maybe they are not right, it may not be right to expect him to help either.

Ok

 

[BeecherVol]

its right here folks.

Jones went on to say that Johnson will have to go through the same summer conditioning programs as the rostered players, and that there is no timetable for Johnson to return.

he is not in shape. staff knows he has a long way to go

I imagine he is not in the same shape that the rest of the roster is in. I have a hard time believing he has sat on the couch during this entire process either. Mainly because the staff was probably smart enough to advise him that it wouldn't be prudent. If he ignored that, he's probably not gonna put in enough work to play at this level anyway.
Jones comments sound more like due paying and public motivation to speed up the process to me. If he is talented enough to help the rotation I doubt we see him have to finish a complete summer conditioning program before he is cleared by the staff to play. I don't think he's gonna be asked to play a number of snaps regardless unless they lose another in the 2 deep.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Everyone acts as if he has been laying around getting fat like us... I bet he is great shape but needs to get into football shape.. Wont take long

You are making an assumption just like us. Who knows how good of shape is? I'm not saying he is laying around getting fat, but also, we have no proof that he has been working out at a high level either.

Take it from someone who ran track at a Division 1 program in college. When you are forced to workout on your own at certain periods of time, regardless of the sport, it isn't the same as being with the team, and some motivation is lost. We don't know what type of motor this kid has.

Again, I'm not saying he has been lazy, but so many people act like he has been staying in great shape as if we have insider info into his daily life.