NashVol11
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Lmfao. A number you made up, like I said, that you admit isn't based on anything. You should probably sit out of the death toll discussion, or make a thread for yourself where you discuss the things you simply made upMy best GUESS (which I will not claim to be based on any actual data), would be about 5,000 true NON-COMBATANTS.
The point is that nobody knows. And to keep throwing around the 50k number as authoritative has no more legitimacy than my much lower estimate.Lmfao. A number you made up, like I said, that you admit isn't based on anything. You should probably sit out of the death toll discussion, or make a thread for yourself where you discuss the things you simply made up
Who said 50K in November 2023? Israel has been using the Gaza Health Ministry's numbers and every indication is that the death toll is likely higher than estimated. If you have zero information that points to a different number then it's a useless and obnoxious exercise to say every number is the wrong number. Said differently, if you "don't know" then stfu about itThe point is that nobody knows. And to keep throwing around the 50k number as authoritative has no more legitimacy than my much lower estimate.
The thing I find interesting is that I started hearing the 50k claim within about a month of October 7 and the exact same number is still being thrown around almost two years later. So either a) the IDF has been extraordinarily careful to have not added any new casualties in the intervening months or b) 50k was from the beginning, and continues to remain, a number pulled out of thin air and chosen for its propaganda value.
Or do you have another option?
You don’t know either now do you?Who said 50K in November 2023? Israel has been using the Gaza Health Ministry's numbers and every indication is that the death toll is likely higher than estimated. If you have zero information that points to a different number then it's a useless and obnoxious exercise to say every number is the wrong number. Said differently, if you "don't know" then stfu about it
We know the death toll is at least 58,400, with tens of thousands more missing. The only thing we don't know is how much higher than that the real number is. Making up conspiracy theories about a death toll is reprehensibleYou don’t know either now do you?
You know that's wrong. Over 500,000 have been killed. More than a million injured or displaced. Israeli defense forces are ordered and comply with opening fire on gazans seeking aid. Starving Gaza citizens are willing to risk death in order to find food. This is murder and you know it.My best GUESS (which I will not claim to be based on any actual data), would be about 5,000 true NON-COMBATANTS.
Everything you mentioned here is 100% misinformation. It’s not your fault for believing it. Lies told millions of times become the truth.You know that's wrong. Over 500,000 have been killed. More than a million injured or displaced. Israeli defense forces are ordered and comply with opening fire on gazans seeking aid. Starving Gaza citizens are willing to risk death in order to find food. This is murder and you know it.
FAFOWe know the death toll is at least 58,400, with tens of thousands more missing. The only thing we don't know is how much higher than that the real number is. Making up conspiracy theories about a death toll is reprehensible
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Separate source saying 80K, which similarly is not comprehensive so the actual number is higher:
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First independent survey of deaths in Gaza reports more than 80,000 fatalities
Results align with other efforts to count the number of people killed amid the ongoing conflict.www.nature.com
Meanwhile OrangeTsar: "Idk I think 5,000"