AJ Johnson/Michael Williams Case (merged)

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iVol4Life said:
Friendly reminder that some people legitimately can't work.
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How so? Unless someone is paralyzed or mentally incompetent there are always jobs that can done. However, too many people nowadays live off their government checks and do nothing. Our society has enabled this, especially our current President.
 
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1985Vols said:
How so? Unless someone is paralyzed or mentally incompetent tree are always jobs that can done. However, too many people nowadays live off their government checks and do nothing. Our society has enabled this, especially our current President.
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KnoxArmyVOL said:
Which is a very very very very small % of those claiming welfare. If someone that cannot legitimately work would know that sitting home and just getting a paycheck does not apply to them. Look towards those who claim welfare but sell drugs or those that abuse it a pump out more kids for more money. Those that complain about paying their water bills and have internet, cable, and big flat screen tv. Everyone needs to wake up and fight where your hard earned tax dollars are going to.

I am glad A.J. got a job and once he is cleared if true of being not guilty then I am sure his NFL career would still be a possibility. Blame the media and court systems if his eligibility to ever play in the NFL is revoked.
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Nope. Welfare fraud/medicaid/foodstamp fraud have actually declined under the current administration from ~10% to 3 to 4% of total payouts annually. The estimated percentage of unemployment fraud is less than 2%. These numbers provided by the GAO and private research. Know the facts. Don't just regurgitate the anger from talking heads.

My family counted on food stamps and occasional welfare while my mother was putting herself through graduate school so I have always been a bit touchy on the topic.

Moving on!

I wish Johnson's day in court would arrive for the sake of everyone concerned. I can't imagine having to wait this long to see a resolution.
Guilty or not, I have a certain amount of respect for Johnson for not crawling into a shell and hiding after his life was turned upside down. I hope the young lady involved has the resources to do the same.
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1985Vols said:
How so? Unless someone is paralyzed or mentally incompetent tree are always jobs that can done. However, too many people nowadays live off their government checks and do nothing. Our society has enabled this, especially our current President.
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Guyute said:
Nope. Welfare fraud/medicaid/foodstamp fraud have actually declined under the current administration from ~10% to 3 to 4% of total payouts annually. The estimated percentage of unemployment fraud is less than 2%. These numbers provided by the GAO and private research. Know the facts. Don't just regurgitate the anger from talking heads.

My family counted on food stamps and occasional welfare while my mother was putting herself through graduate school so I have always been a bit touchy on the topic.

Moving on!

I wish Johnson's day in court would arrive for the sake of everyone concerned. I can't imagine having to wait this long to see a resolution.
Guilty or not, I have a certain amount of respect for Johnson for not crawling into a shell and hiding after his life was turned upside down. I hope the young lady involved has the resources to do the same.
Guyute is online now
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Well this contradicts your statement, says welfare expenditures are up 32% under obama.

Welfare spending jumps 32% during Obama's presidency - Washington Times
 
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This guy is a hard worker and achiever. He will come back from this, hopefully lesson learned or hopefully innocent actually.
 
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UT_Dutchman said:
Well this contradicts your statement, says welfare expenditures are up 32% under obama.

Welfare spending jumps 32% during Obama's presidency - Washington Times
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Thanks for the update! I was looking at fraud as reported by internal and external audits. I appreciate having all of the facts, though. Like I said, I have a dog in the fight as I have seen the benefit of govt assistance first hand.

Nice to voice things here where we all have at least one thing in common.

Go Vols!
 
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JohnMarxism said:
Simply as an American citizen, I admire him for getting a job. For so many, sitting at home while drawing a check is their existence.
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Faux News has been spewing that propaganda for years, it keeps the red base pissed off. Everybody's livin off the gub'ment. :shakehead:
 
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orangeluvr said:
Faux News has been spewing that propaganda for years, it keeps the red base pissed off. Everybody's livin off the gub'ment. :shakehead:
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I knew a (now divorced) couple who's entire plan was to have six children and live off the government while the father sold drugs. Domestic violence and the death of their second child drove them apart and ruined their scheme. Anecdotal? Yes. However, don't act like this isn't a real issue because it does not align with your political ideology.
 
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Trial date set in Knoxville rape case

Associated Press | March 9, 2015
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Former Tennessee linebacker A.J. Johnson and suspended Tennessee defensive back Michael Williams have pleaded not guilty to aggravated rape charges.

Johnson and Williams were arraigned Monday after being indicted last month by a grand jury. Trial was set for Aug. 24.

Johnson and Williams were suspended from Tennessee's football team in November, one day before Knoxville police named both as subjects of a rape investigation. Johnson has since graduated and completed his eligibility.

Williams lawyer David Eldridge insisted Monday his client is "innocent of the charges and we'll defend them in court." Johnson's lawyer also says his client is not guilty.
 
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GOVOLS 1 said:
Trial date set in Knoxville rape case

Associated Press | March 9, 2015
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Former Tennessee linebacker A.J. Johnson and suspended Tennessee defensive back Michael Williams have pleaded not guilty to aggravated rape charges.

Johnson and Williams were arraigned Monday after being indicted last month by a grand jury. Trial was set for Aug. 24.

Johnson and Williams were suspended from Tennessee's football team in November, one day before Knoxville police named both as subjects of a rape investigation. Johnson has since graduated and completed his eligibility.

Williams lawyer David Eldridge insisted Monday his client is "innocent of the charges and we'll defend them in court." Johnson's lawyer also says his client is not guilty.
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Certainly hope they're telling the truth. Time and a jury of their peers will decide.
 
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I know this shouldn't be the first thing on my mind, but If williams is indeed innocent, the trial date will likely cause him to miss the season or at least camp and a big portion of games.

If he's guilty then he will get what he's due. Would be tough for Mike if he's indeed innocent and still can't play this season.
 
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TBtheGBwiththeTD said:
I know this shouldn't be the first thing on my mind, but If williams is indeed innocent, the trial date will likely cause him to miss the season or at least camp and a big portion of games.

If he's guilty then he will get what he's due. Would be tough for Mike if he's indeed innocent and still can't play this season.
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I thought he wasn't enrolled at UT anyway, so it won't matter.
 
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Defendants are innocent until proven guilty. Let justice be served. In cases like this there is no real winner.
 
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