AJ Johnson/Michael Williams Case (merged)

#529
#529
Sorry after looking closer it appears to be set up by aj. Who really knows the Internet is full of mystery and legends
 
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vol81 said:
In my experience, there are two types of cases that go before grand juries.
One is after it has been bound over from Sessions Court, either after a preliminary hearing in which probable cause is established to the satisfaction of the judge or the defendant waives his right to a PH. In this case there has already been two PC reviews---one by the charging agency/DA and one by the PH Judge before the case reaches the GJ. The grand jury almost always indicts these cases, and many times only the investigating officer testifies before the GJ.
The other type is where the DA/LE go straight to the GJ.
This is done sometimes to avoid a victim testifying at a PH, or where the decision to charge by LE is somewhat indecisive, or for other strategic reasons. If its a close case to charge, the DA is more likely to present everything to the GJ so the decision to charge is more on them (Ferguson MO case). In AJ's case we have no way of knowing at this time if this was a strategic decision to keep the victim from testifying at a PH or whether they were looking for GJ "cover" on whether to charge or not. It could been a combination of both.
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Great insight, I'm guessing it was a strategic move to keep as much as possible out of the media since this is such a high profile case, and there is so much media attention. As you may know GJ testimony is secret and can't be disclosed, so the prosecution can disclose the information to the defense through the discovery process.
 
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#531
I contributed $100. If all of VN did $2 we'd have enough for him to beat this clearly false charge and have a great career.
 
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gunner said:
Correct. All that has been established is Probable Cause. The prosecution will still have to prove its case at trial to the jurors beyond any reasonable doubt which isn't easy and a much higher standard than Probable Cause.
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You place way too much faith in the legal system. By your own words, if AJ is found not guilty, it's not because he could be innocent, it's because the prosecution failed to prove it's case. There is a flip-side. AJ could be found guilty but in reality be innocent. Innocent men have sat in jail for crimes they didn't commit before, so it's certainly a possibility.

My problem with your arguements is that you argue from the POV he is guilty. You've already predetermined he committed a heinous act. If he is indeed guilty, I hope he pays dearly, but the door is still open that he is completely innocent. A GJ indictment does not mean he's guilty. It doesn't mean that from this point forward he should be presumed to have committed the crime and if not convicted, it's not because he's innocent, it's because the prosecution failed. You can spout all you want about "charges wouldn't have been filed" if there wasn't something to the case, but like I said above, innocent men have been convicted before, and I'm willing to bet more will be in the future.

And please save the arguement of evidence. Evidence can be open to interpretation. It's rarely black and white, close the book, he's guilty type of evidence that's presented to a GJ. If you have that type of evidence, you don't need a GJ. If you have that type of evidence, the defendant is more likely to accept a plea agreement because they know their goose is cooked.

This isn't a case of, "Well the GJ indicted hime, he must be guilty. The only way he gets off now is if the DA screws up." We're still in the stages where due process is at work, and until a trial jury says "guilty", he should be presumed innocent. That's how the law is supposed to work.
 
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#536
Since this case appears to be a classic he said-she said case it likely will turn on which version has more credible circumstantial evidence to support their version.
 
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#538
Can't wait until the Tennessean publishes an article about this.

"Tennessee football player asking for donations for alleged rapist"
 
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Hayezb said:
Do we know a verdict?

I didn't think anything had been confirmed. I'll wait and see who deserves a donation.
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Exactly if he is guilty then he needs to be thrown under the jail but if the complaint is false then she needs thrown under the jail
 
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