AJ Johnson/Michael Williams Case (merged)

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Hope your few minutes of fun was worth it boys. Looks like Butch did the right thing by suspending them.
 
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You do realize that grand juries are pretty much just a rubber stamp right? Only a fraction of a percentage of cases brought before the grand jury aren't indicted.

That's right, keep believing just because they're UT players they aren't capable of doing something like this
 
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You do realize that grand juries are pretty much just a rubber stamp right? Only a fraction of a percentage of cases brought before the grand jury aren't indicted.

True, and I'm not one to make hasty generalizations, but I think something might be going on here...
 
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You do realize that grand juries are pretty much just a rubber stamp right? Only a fraction of a percentage of cases brought before the grand jury aren't indicted.



You are correct! Only case that comes to mind for me is the O.J. case. He was acquitted.
 
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You do realize that grand juries are pretty much just a rubber stamp right? Only a fraction of a percentage of cases brought before the grand jury aren't indicted.

Not sure if you're defending them still or saying wait and see kind of deal
 
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That's right, keep believing these boys aren't capable of doing something like this

I'm not saying they're not capable, but if you were in the jury pool and said something like then the defense wouldn't even need to use a peremptory to get you out of there.

What needs to be understood is that the burden of proof for grand jury indictments is incredibly low, and that defense attorneys aren't even allowed to be a part of the proceedings. However, the prosecution can act in an "advisory role" towards the grand jury.

They're not guilty at this point, and until tried in a court of law they will remain not guilty.
 
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Not sure if you're defending them still or saying wait and see kind of deal

Both. I've heard from a couple of different people about the situation. I'm not an insider by any means, but from what I've heard I remain skeptical.

At least I'm not ready to crucify them yet.
 
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Both. I've heard from a couple of different people about the situation. I'm not an insider by any means, but from what I've heard I remain skeptical.

At least I'm not ready to crucify them yet.

That's respectable. I don't think any of us should crucify them...but we should wait and see. And I sincerely wish the whole only Michael Williams did it idea would die. That really grinds my gears.
 
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When this started, I recall lots of people here saying, "I am waiting to see what the evidence says" and waiting to see if they'd be charged. I predict now it'll be something else. As is already happening by a few posters. News flash, people do not want to believe this kind of thing, I get that. But, to not believe it is absurd. Happens every day by people who others viewed as "such a nice person" therefore can't be true. Get over it.
 
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That's right, keep believing just because they're UT players they aren't capable of doing something like this

Your statement has nothing to do with what he said. He is correct. The Grand Jury, for the most part, follows where the Attorney General leads them. An indictment is not good. It means you are going to be tried for the crime you are accused of. It is not a predictor of guilt.
 
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When this started, I recall lots of people here saying, "I am waiting to see what the evidence says" and waiting to see if they'd be charged. I predict now it'll be something else. As is already happening by a few posters. News flash, people do not want to believe this kind of thing, I get that. But, to not believe it is absurd. Happens every day by people who others viewed as "such a nice person" therefore can't be true. Get over it.

The evidence has yet to say anything. If they did it, I hope they rot. But being indicted by a grand jury, and being guilty of a crime are two different things.
 
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#25
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Not this again...

The article did say that Mr. Dillard (Johnson's Attorney) is making plans for him to turn himself in also. Pretty much black and white there. That's too bad. All this over a night of thinking with the "little head" instead of the one with common sense in it.:thumbsup:
 
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