Ainge......is not a winner!! Period

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Rasputin_Vol said:
What perplexes me is that the moment we have something that works, we go away from it and try to establish something else. Take the Florida game last season, when we rushed for -11 yards. The passing game was there all game, yet for some inexplicable reason (many say Fulmer influenced his decision), instead of us contnuing with what got us the 10 point lead in that game, we tried to establish the run. That is the complete opposite of what happened today. We had the run all day long with Foster, yet for some reason, we went away from Foster, and to an extent, we hardly used Chris Brown at all.
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That is true, too, Ras. My comment was on what Cutcliffe's tendency this season seems to be...to utilize the passing game more w/ Ainge. I wish they would stick w/ the running game when it is working...make their defense say, "I'm tired. Don't hit me anymore."
 
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All this Ainge bashing is ridiculous. I admit that he didn't play that well today but he is not the reason you got blown out by 24 points. I have been very impressed with the guy this season. And yes, he is not exactly the field general type but then again, i've never thought that about him. Give him a break, he's the least of your worries. He's about an accurate a passer as i've seen this year.
 
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duckman398686 said:
All this Ainge bashing is ridiculous. I admit that he didn't play that well today but he is not the reason you got blown out by 24 points. I have been very impressed with the guy this season. And yes, he is not exactly the field general type but then again, i've never thought that about him. Give him a break, he's the least of your worries. He's about an accurate a passer as i've seen this year.
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he is good for 15 to 20 yards.......no deep threat......why is it that the longest pass of the last 2 years was made by Lucas Taylor?
 
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goodolerockytop2 said:
I think thats why he plays like he does......so he wont get hurt......timid
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Whoa... I'm not sure I want to go that far. :ermm: I just think he's been conditioned (very well I may add) to not make the same bone headed mistakes he made in 2005. Unfortunately, Cutty has pretty much made him a sterile, vanilla, bland QB that doesn't lose you games, but doesn't have the improvisational ability to win you games (or make plays) when things breakdown around him. Vanilla tastes good... and will probably get you 8-9 wins. But don't expect any sprinkles with that vanilla.

I can honestly say that I've not seen one instant where I ( the most staunch Ainge critic) have come away and said, "I wonder if Ainge bailed out on that play to avoid contact?". If anything, he's played through pain this season for the very reason of proving to scouts that he is durable and can take the punishment of a full college season at least one time in his career.
 
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The Lucas Taylor passes are trick plays. They're designed to be big yardage plays. The offensive staff seems to want to run one play of that type every game. At least that one is working...PTL

Tenn's reluctance to throw the deep ball is, I think, more a reflection of the offensive strategy Cutcliffe has in mind rather than Ainge's inability to throw it. I'm thinking Cutcliffe is using the short passing game as a substitute for the running game (that most of us would rather see) in a ball-control offense.

I do agree w/ Ras that Ainge is a system qb. Ainge is doing whatever Cutcliffe is telling him to do. But that isn't bad as long you're system is working. All of Spurrier's UF qb's were system qb's, and UF had no trouble winning games. The difference is that we are not winning games, and I don't think Ainge is the reason behind that.
 
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I see that this thread is being linked to a Bama board and they're getting pleasure out of this ridiculous thread.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
but doesn't have the improvisational ability to win you games (or make plays) when things breakdown around him.
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He's definitely not a scrambler, so he can't do as much to keep plays alive like John Parker Wilson can. However, I've seen Ainge pull off several good passes on plays where things busted. He did it a lot more last year. I think that's because the wide receivers were more experienced and knew how to come back and help Erik when things went haywire.
 
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OWB said:
I see that this thread is being linked to a Bama board and they're getting pleasure out of this ridiculous thread.
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Truly riiculous thread... I've been lurking on this site for a while now and just now decided to post....

You see, I live in Alabama and, let me tell you, I did take quite a bit of pleasure in listening to all the bama fans and their ridiculous theories as to what should be done with the Alabama program after the 2006 season.

Please, let's be better than that. With our defense, our playbood, and our general lack of fire and motivation, Tom Brady could be the QB and the results would still be the same...
 
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tvolsfan said:
Yeah, it is Ainge's fault our team is terrible...

Ainge didnt play great today, but he is the least of our problems...
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17 points would usually be enough to win. We've forgotten how to run the ball and play defense in the SEC. So we get these goofy high scoring matches.

I'll take it . . . we got the "W." But the whole time I was irritated we weren't running the ball more. This definitely isn't your father's SEC.
 
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WAR EAGLE

Not much has been made of the receivers being injured which I think made a huge difference in the game.
 
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I tried to read this whole thread before I responded but couldn't make it. Ainge is the only consistent player on this team.

It's blows my mind that anyone would hang this loss on Ainge. With a half-way decent defense and at least one pro-prospect receiver (and a coaching staff that would stay with the hot running back) he'd be a freakin' heisman candidate.

Unbelievable....
 
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Grievous Angel said:
17 points would usually be enough to win. We've forgotten how to run the ball and play defense in the SEC. So we get these goofy high scoring matches.

I'll take it . . . we got the "W." But the whole time I was irritated we weren't running the ball more. This definitely isn't your father's SEC.
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Great screen name - I love that song and Gram Parsons
 
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goodolerockytop2 said:
Remember the play against LSU last year when JC hit the LB and it fired the team up?? That is what we don't have at QB......I am not saying JC should play, I am saying we need that fire, desire and will to get the job done!!
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I think we need team psychologist to determine which player on the roster has the most intensity and just play him at QB. Yeah, that's the anwser.
 
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goodolerockytop2 said:
I know I am gonna get it for this BUT it doesn't matter who is coaching, if you don't have a QB that has fire and emotion you're always gonna be "mediocre"!! Ainge showed no intensity, no emotion and was very lackadaisical with 11 minutes left in the game....I agree he has great stats but he can't throw the deep ball!! I know alot of you are going to disagree with me......but he plays with no enthusiasm and is not a leader!!
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give the kid a break. In another system he would have excelled. We have a tendency to kill quarterbacks here. Peyton was goddly he succeeded in spite of UT. What other quarterbacks have we ever produced for the NFL. that lasted more than one year. Heath S.
 
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Grievous Angel said:
17 points would usually be enough to win. We've forgotten how to run the ball and play defense in the SEC. So we get these goofy high scoring matches.

I'll take it . . . we got the "W." But the whole time I was irritated we weren't running the ball more. This definitely isn't your father's SEC.
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17 points isn't enough to win most games. 17 points should be enough to keep you in position to get back in the game.
 
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volinbham said:
I tried to read this whole thread before I responded but couldn't make it. Ainge is the only consistent player on this team.

It's blows my mind that anyone would hang this loss on Ainge. With a half-way decent defense and at least one pro-prospect receiver (and a coaching staff that would stay with the hot running back) he'd be a freakin' heisman candidate.

Unbelievable....
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agreed
 
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