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#251
#251
BigOrangeTrain said:
He developed Hooker. How do you know GMac isn’t ready to play? He is a freshman.
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Hype did not recruit Hooker, he recruited over him. I am not talking about development. I am actually referring to those who say we got to go to the portal again for a qb next year. And I am saying we should have one on our current roster unless we have an evaluation of qb problem. I hope Mac is ready, we don't know because we have not seen enough of him. Again if we don't have one ready to go, then something is wrong with our evaluation. This is what year 5?
 
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cgrish said:
Hype did not recruit Hooker, he recruited over him. I am not talking about development. I am actually referring to those who say we got to go to the portal again for a qb next year. And I am saying we should have one on our current roster unless we have an evaluation of qb problem. I hope Mac is ready, we don't know because we have not seen enough of him. Again if we don't have one ready to go, then something is wrong with our evaluation. This is what year 5?
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Doesn’t matter if he recruited him. He developed him. He turned JA into a top tier SEC QB. And I am saying you don’t know wee don’t have a QB ready to play. For all you know Merk could be the starter and ball out next year.
 
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#253
#253
cgrish said:
Who has he recruited while at UT from High School that has done well, Nico only average, Hooker he inherited and took Milton over him. This is yr 5 and apparently we have no one on the roster who is ready to play?
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Faizon could play next year. But if you have a veteran then you play him Gmac has to add weight.
 
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#255
EastTNVol6240 said:
Actually they’re just countering your argument and opinion and you don’t like it. I see both sides. People perform different on different stages. Practice/games, etc.

On the other hand it’s hard to declare JH a “QB whisperer” when the only reason we got to see HH was due to a lackluster QB going down. It’s hard to imagine a “QB whisperer” wouldn’t have seen some flashes with HH at some point.
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So, in which games had Joe Milton showed himself to be a lackluster QB prior to getting injured? Was it the Bowling Green game or the first quarter of the Pitt game?
If Heupel had reinstated Joe Milton as the starter once he recovered from his injury, I would tend to agree with you. Milton had literally played just over five quarters in a new system prior to his injury. Hooker came in and performed well. He kept the job until he got injured against South Carolina. Again, if the only info Heupel had to go off of was preseason practice and Joe outperformed Hendon consistently in those practices, as reports suggested, what exactly was he supposed to do?
The term "QB Whisperer" does not equate to clairvoyant.
 
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cgrish said:
Hype did not recruit Hooker, he recruited over him. I am not talking about development. I am actually referring to those who say we got to go to the portal again for a qb next year. And I am saying we should have one on our current roster unless we have an evaluation of qb problem. I hope Mac is ready, we don't know because we have not seen enough of him. Again if we don't have one ready to go, then something is wrong with our evaluation. This is what year 5?
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He didn't recruit over him. He brought two talented, veteran QBs to come in and battle. Milton more than likely looked better in practice than Hooker at that point. Hooker was given the opportunity, showed promise and it eventually clicked and took him to another level.
 
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#258
BigOrangeTrain said:
Doesn’t matter if he recruited him. He developed him. He turned JA into a top tier SEC QB. And I am saying you don’t know wee don’t have a QB ready to play. For all you know Merk could be the starter and ball out next year.
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I think what hes getting at is JHs overall evaluation of QBs, whether it be what was already on roster, or what he recruited out of high school.

The one main recruit that JH brought in and has started here (Nico) was a pretty terrible and hes been terible at UCLA too. In what limited time we have seen of Merk, he isnt going to be it either. He has shown me nothing that he has any potential in this offense. Could he improve? Sure, but I doubt it. GMac I give you, just not enough to go off of yet on him.

The 2 QBs that have actually succeeded in his offense were not guys he signed. Hooker was already here, he started Milton over him. JA literally fell from the sky into his lap last minute and he really didnt have much choice but to start him because Merk was so bad and GMac just wasn't ready. I'm not totally concluding I think JH doesnt know what hes doing or how to evaluate QBs but I do think its an interesting question to ask, because it really does seem like hes had trouble bringing in the right guy to run his system.
 
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deatojl said:
Do you not think Hooker improved from the time he entered the game against Pitt? Seems as though there had to be a bit of development to get him to the level he played in 2022, don't you think?
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Of course he did. Credit definitely due there. But the other half to that is do we ever see him if not for the injury?

Point being is not one QB that JH has brought to UT has been great. Lots of misses. And yes I understand stars don’t always equal a successful player. But we sure do have a funny way of bringing in highly coveted players and getting nothing out of them, especially on offense.

I sure hope that changes in 2026.
 
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deatojl said:
So, in which games had Joe Milton showed himself to be a lackluster QB prior to getting injured? Was it the Bowling Green game or the first quarter of the Pitt game?
If Heupel had reinstated Joe Milton as the starter once he recovered from his injury, I would tend to agree with you. Milton had literally played just over five quarters in a new system prior to his injury. Hooker came in and performed well. He kept the job until he got injured against South Carolina. Again, if the only info Heupel had to go off of was preseason practice and Joe outperformed Hendon consistently in those practices, as reports suggested, what exactly was he supposed to do?
The term "QB Whisperer" does not equate to clairvoyant.
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Well I was never a huge Milton fan so I’d say his whole career was pretty lackluster. Great physical attributes but 0 going on between the ears as far as football IQ. He may have impressed in practice by throwing 100 yards, but he very consistently showed on game days he didn’t have it. Couldn’t read, locking onto WR, overthrowing, running outta bounds with the game on the line, all kinds of good stuff.

HH didn’t have the arm, but he was a natural playmaker with the ball. There is absolutely 0 chance there weren’t flashes of that at times on a practice field.
 
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#262
wmcovol said:
I’ve never read “qb whisper” until you stated it.

Is Kiffin one of your “qb whispers”?
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Oh BS. Blatant lie on your part if you’ve spent any time here. If cared enough to make you look silly I’d use the search bar. Go for it. It’s been said plenty of times. And no I don’t have a fixation with Kiffin like some here. Do I think he’s a good coach? Sure. Am I hoping for a second run at UT? Nah. Try again.
 
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cgrish said:
Hype did not recruit Hooker, he recruited over him. I am not talking about development. I am actually referring to those who say we got to go to the portal again for a qb next year. And I am saying we should have one on our current roster unless we have an evaluation of qb problem. I hope Mac is ready, we don't know because we have not seen enough of him. Again if we don't have one ready to go, then something is wrong with our evaluation. This is what year 5?
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So you would conclude that most every team that uses a portal QB has a coaching/evaluation problem?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Doesn’t matter if he recruited him. He developed him. He turned JA into a top tier SEC QB. And I am saying you don’t know wee don’t have a QB ready to play. For all you know Merk could be the starter and ball out next year.
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No offence, Merk can't play
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
Oh BS. Blatant lie on your part if you’ve spent any time here. If cared enough to make you look silly I’d use the search bar. Go for it. It’s been said plenty of times. And no I don’t have a fixation with Kiffin like some here. Do I think he’s a good coach? Sure. Am I hoping for a second run at UT? Nah. Try again.
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Kiffin did the exact thing this year playing Simmons over Chambliss earlier in the year. But the difference was Kiffin has had Simmons for over a year & Chambliss since last January, far more time than Heupel had with either Milton or Hooker.

You’re just a $hit stirrer that serves no other purpose. We’re done here.
 
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wmcovol said:
Kiffin did the exact thing this year playing Simmons over Chambliss earlier in the year. But the difference was Kiffin has had Simmons for over a year & Chambliss since last January, far more time than Heupel had with either Milton or Hooker.

You’re just a $hit stirrer that serves no other purpose. We’re done here.
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Nah you wanna be done pop that ignore button big boy. lol the sassiness and thinking you did something with that “we’re done here”. You ladies are amusing. 😂

I don’t let Ole Miss football concern me little buddy. Looks like you might be the one with eyes for Kiffin. Looks like he keeps you up at night.

And unfortunately for you I serve just as much of a purpose as you here, which is none. The difference is I’m smart enough to know it and you actually think you serve a purpose. Ain’t no one cured cancer here. Just a place to offer opinions where snowflakes like you get your feelings so hurt when opinions don’t align.

However, every once in a while we do some good. If you haven’t already I urge you to go on over to the thread and help outs Brandon’s Amazon wishlist if you haven’t already.
 
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#269
EastTNVol6240 said:
Nah you wanna be done pop that ignore button big boy. lol the sassiness and thinking you did something with that “we’re done here”. You ladies are amusing. 😂

I don’t let Ole Miss football concern me little buddy. Looks like you might be the one with eyes for Kiffin. Looks like he keeps you up at night.

And unfortunately for you I serve just as much of a purpose as you here, which is none. The difference is I’m smart enough to know it and you actually think you serve a purpose. Ain’t no one cured cancer here. Just a place to offer opinions where snowflakes like you get your feelings so hurt when opinions don’t align.

However, every once in a while we do some good. If you haven’t already I urge you to go on over to the thread and help outs Brandon’s Amazon wishlist if you haven’t already.
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Goodbye, $hit stirrer.
 
#271
#271
wmcovol said:
When did JH say he was a “qb whisper”? I’d love to see the quote.
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His reputation as a QB Guru extends well before his time at UT.

He started Milton because Milton was by far the better player in practice, which IS ALL HE HAD TO GO ON. Ask Cooper Mays, who said the same thing. The fact that CJH does not have ESP to see how Hooker would turn it around (and he completely turned it around) does not indicate a lack of QB development ability on Heupel's part. Which seems rather obvious.
 
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#272
EastTNVol6240 said:
Hooker came in due to injury. Quit making things up.
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Yep. And he got better.

Go back and watch the spring game from 2021. Hooker was godawful. Then watch that Pitt game. He was okay. Then watch the 2021 Florida game. He was mediocre. Then watch the rest of his career.

Heupel and Halzle absolutely developed Hooker. To say otherwise is absurd.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
Of course he did. Credit definitely due there. But the other half to that is do we ever see him if not for the injury?

Point being is not one QB that JH has brought to UT has been great. Lots of misses. And yes I understand stars don’t always equal a successful player. But we sure do have a funny way of bringing in highly coveted players and getting nothing out of them, especially on offense.

I sure hope that changes in 2026.
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The answer is we don't know. All we do know is it went down the way it did. Everything else is nothing but speculation.
I have another question for you. Do you apply the same standards to other top programs in regard to QBs?
Ohio State
2025-Julian Sayin(Transfer)
2024-Will Howard(Transfer)
2023-Kyle McCord-One year starter who transferred when Howard came in.
Ryan Day was the QB Coach prior to becoming HC.

Alabama
2025-Ty Simpson(Recruited by Saban)
2024-Jalen Milroe(Recruited by Saban)
These are the only two starting QBs under DeBoer. Austin Mack was brought over from Washington and has ridden the bench.

Indiana
2025-Fernando Mendoza(Transfer)
2024-Kurtis Rourke(Transfer)
These are the only two starting QBs under Cignetti.

Texas
2025-Arch Manning(First year starter. Results have been at least mildly disappointing)
2024-Quinn Ewers(Transfer)
2023-Quinn Ewers(Transfer)
2022-Quinn Ewers(Transfer)
2021-Casey Thompson(Not recruited by Sarkisian)

Oregon
2025-Dante Moore(Transfer)
2024-Dillon Gabriel(Transfer)
2023-Bo Nix(Transfer)
2022-Bo Nix(Transfer)
These are the only starting QBs under Lanning

Ole Miss
2025-Austin Simmons(Injured/lost his starting job)
2025-Trinidad Chambliss(Transfer)
2024-Jaxson Dart(Transfer)
2023-Jaxson Dart(Transfer)
2022-Jaxson Dart(Transfer)
2021-Matt Corral(Not recruited by Kiffin)
2020-Matt Corral(Not recruited by Kiffin)

These are just some examples. I think the only top program who recruits and develops their HS QBs consistently is Georgia and they aren't exactly dependent on their QB for their team success.
 
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