AD White, please listen to the fans

#77
#77
RDU VOL#14 said:
There is a certain segment of this fan base that is so laughable at times it’s unbelievable. It’s almost like you want to have something to complain about so you can burn things, protest or a paint the rock to make yourself feel important.
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Amen--the "legion of the miserable."
 
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DonDiego said:
I know I don't speak for all fans, but I tell you, many, many fans do not want an 'up and comer'. We do not want a learn on the job OC or DC--been there, done that. This isn't Central Florida. Vol fans want and deserve a proven winner. My opinion...others may disagree.

Also, I'm aware AD White isn't reading this post---maybe he has people do this.
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NO HE SHOULDN"T NOT LISTEN TO THE FANS!
 
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LucidZ said:
I doubt he has people to do it either. You're just talking to us.
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I think his challenge to fans at the presser makes it clear that his team is aware of what is going on on standard social media and boards like this one. I am sure they can sift through the offerings and discount the malcontents messages to the world and get a good idea of what the team oriented fans are thinking.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Dear Mr. White.

You're experienced and have a great track record hiring football coaches. Do whatever you think is best. It's why you make big money. Do not listen to the fans. Many won't be satisfied unless you hire Belichick.
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Wait, is Belichick in the running? He now has experience coaching an SEC, Heisman winning, national champion QB. (Previously he only had experience coaching a big 10 qb who spent most of his college career as a backup). I saw the plane tracker was up in Boston this weekend. We should make a lot of new threads about this!
 
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AD White - please do what you think is best because too many on message boards and Twitter only look at win/loss records of a coach not taking into consideration anything else and what we need and what could work at TN knowing our situation. Thanks
 
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DonDiego said:
I know I don't speak for all fans, but I tell you, many, many fans do not want an 'up and comer'. We do not want a learn on the job OC or DC--been there, done that. This isn't Central Florida. Vol fans want and deserve a proven winner. My opinion...others may disagree.

Also, I'm aware AD White isn't reading this post---maybe he has people do this.
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White's job is to find the best candidate available who will accept the job. He has training and experience to do this. I dare say by orders of magnitude greater than any poster on this forum.

This fanbase needs to sober up. This isn't the 90s and UT is a long way from the desirable coaching destination it used to be. And now the possibility of significant NCAA sanctions are looming. Some of our fanbase seem to think this process just involves making a phone call and paying a "proven coach" a lot money to assuage their concerns about the position. It simply does not work like that. It could very well be that the best available coach UT can hire right now is not a power 5 head coach that the "average fan" on this forum wants. UT is paying the AD a lot of money for his judgment and experience. He has been successful everywhere he's been.

Stop living in the past and let the man do his job.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
I think his challenge to fans at the presser makes it clear that his team is aware of what is going on on standard social media and boards like this one. I am sure they can sift through the offerings and discount the malcontents messages to the world and get a good idea of what the team oriented fans are thinking.
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Think that message was more for social media sites like twitter or facebook, not forums. Sites that players are active on and potential recruits. As those sites are usually the sites that are looked at the most and reported on the most. I can't imagine what they'd gain from sifting through the pages of a forum like this. Sounds exhausting and there really isn't that much on here that is exactly worthy of noting. Mostly lately it's just been a place for people to release their frustration and argue.
 
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#91
Perspective said:
Don’t get upset. Get informed.
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I'll be a little more specific:

It not only wasn't hard, it was quite simple for those programs to make those hires: it doesn't get any simpler than promoting someone from the staff. How many search firms do you think that requires? I'll give you a hint: it's a number less than 1 and equal to 0.

And to say there's more at risk is the very definition of nonsense: just as a Bentley has a more powerful motor than a beater Cadillac and will go much faster as a result, so a team littered with five-star athletes, and developed three- and four-stars, will win most games on its own, completely independent of the coaching, whereas a team with few to no five-stars and few to no developed three- and four-stars, when given a bad coach, will lose more games than it wins. Just as a new Bentley will be more mechanically sound from top to bottom than a beater Cadillac and therefore far safer for anyone from a teenager to an octogenarian to drive than said Cadillac (the choices of the driver have nothing to do with the comparative safety index of the vehicle), so a team full of top-level athletes is much harder to lose with, whether the coach is experienced or just a promoted coordinator, than one devoid of top-level athletes.

Reader's digest condensed version: you posted a bunch of specious nonsense.
 
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DonDiego said:
I know I don't speak for all fans, but I tell you, many, many fans do not want an 'up and comer'. We do not want a learn on the job OC or DC--been there, done that. This isn't Central Florida. Vol fans want and deserve a proven winner. My opinion...others may disagree.

Also, I'm aware AD White isn't reading this post---maybe he has people do this.
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I want the right coach. Failure has a lot of different resumes but so does success. I tend to agree but if the choice is between say Elliott and an experienced HC who wins about 30% of the time vs teams with a winning record then you aren't really giving yourself a lot of security by taking the guy who is an experienced loser. That was the facade with Jones. His record looked good but it came from beating up on terrible competition.

There are only a few names being floated that have done "more with less" and who win against better teams. Freeze is one.

The fascination with Kiffin is just beyond me. Does his record at FAU really carry that much weight?
 
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AD White, please use your knowledge and experience to pick the best coach who will accept the job. Fans will figure it out. 🙄
 
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#95
As I read the comments of posters, I see so many different favorites.

I admit that I do not know a lot about all the candidates which have been mentioned, and I wonder just how much these posters actually know about them.

We have had some bad coaches, it is true. Maybe they were hired for the wrong reasons, and by the wrong people. However, I firmly believe UT has learned some hard lessons, and that Danny White is a breath of fresh air.

I hope, and I believe, we are ready to take bold, new steps toward righting the ship. I would hope all those who choose to be negative, even before a coach can be chosen, will remain silent and allow Danny White to do his job. Otherwise, we will continue to go down hill, and things will not change.

He is paid well, and has been given the tools necessary to make informed decisions based upon many factors which NO ONE on this, or other boards, have access to.

Please stop the negative comments, and the attempts to tell DW how to do his job. Realize that no matter your experience, you do not have even a portion of the information he has. That does not mean he will make the perfect choice, but it means we have a much, much better chance of a good choice, than any choice made by ANYONE on this, or other, boards.

Go Vols!
 
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RollllTide said:
You do realize you are in this mess because Tennessee listened to the fans...

You guys have been an unmitigated gong show since they listened to you. Coaches like it or not talk and are like a fraternity. You hired a guy, smeared his reputation like he was a rapist. You got fans who think Hugh Freeze is a good idea. Hookers, which I’m sure he used for players and himself. Middle of NCAA investigation? Let’s be clear none of these college coaches are clean. Everyone is hiring hookers, paying off players with bags full of money, players raping women, coaches don’t say anything, players beating women and coaches don’t say anything. Players committing legit crimes and have coaches on speed dial to bribe a cop to hopefully let the guy go. Teams playing teachers to give kids grades. Cheating on SAT’s. Inventing programs for players and making schedules for classes that don’t exist.

Your attempting to not pay Pruitt because of the bags full of money. What coach is gonna wanna come here knowing he is going to have to give up bags full of money in order to turn the program around, while knowing if he does they won’t pay my contract.
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Go back to the Bammer message board

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#97
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lifeisdeep said:
I'll be a little more specific:

It not only wasn't hard, it was quite simple for those programs to make those hires: it doesn't get any simpler than promoting someone from the staff. How many search firms do you think that requires? I'll give you a hint: it's a number less than 1 and equal to 0.

And to say there's more at risk is the very definition of nonsense: just as a Bentley has a more powerful motor than a beater Cadillac and will go much faster as a result, so a team littered with five-star athletes, and developed three- and four-stars, will win most games on its own, completely independent of the coaching, whereas a team with few to no five-stars and few to no developed three- and four-stars, when given a bad coach, will lose more games than it wins. Just as a new Bentley will be more mechanically sound from top to bottom than a beater Cadillac and therefore far safer for anyone from a teenager to an octogenarian to drive than said Cadillac (the choices of the driver have nothing to do with the comparative safety index of the vehicle), so a team full of top-level athletes is much harder to lose with, whether the coach is experienced or just a promoted coordinator, than one devoid of top-level athletes.

Reader's digest condensed version: you posted a bunch of specious nonsense.
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I've done some coaching at the high school level and have had some family that coached coordinator level in the SEC, and I'll mostly agree with you in that it's not the X's and O's so much as the Jimmies and Joe's. I do think that good coaching is more critical at the high school level than college level. My SEC coordinator family made the statement,"It's 5% coaching and 95% having the studs." Not saying that X's and O's don't make a difference.
 
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DonDiego said:
I know I don't speak for all fans, but I tell you, many, many fans do not want an 'up and comer'. We do not want a learn on the job OC or DC--been there, done that. This isn't Central Florida. Vol fans want and deserve a proven winner. My opinion...others may disagree.

Also, I'm aware AD White isn't reading this post---maybe he has people do this.
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He'll hire who he feels is best for the University. This is his job. I know you don't anyone coming to you and telling you how to do yours. He has researched, asked around, interviewed, candidates before. This isn't his 1st HC hire. It's his neck that's on the line and he won't dissapoint. He knows what we need better than we do. We'll all be fine if folks would leave the hiring business to those who are responsible for the hire.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
I'll be a little more specific:

It not only wasn't hard, it was quite simple for those programs to make those hires: it doesn't get any simpler than promoting someone from the staff. How many search firms do you think that requires? I'll give you a hint: it's a number less than 1 and equal to 0.

And to say there's more at risk is the very definition of nonsense: just as a Bentley has a more powerful motor than a beater Cadillac and will go much faster as a result, so a team littered with five-star athletes, and developed three- and four-stars, will win most games on its own, completely independent of the coaching, whereas a team with few to no five-stars and few to no developed three- and four-stars, when given a bad coach, will lose more games than it wins. Just as a new Bentley will be more mechanically sound from top to bottom than a beater Cadillac and therefore far safer for anyone from a teenager to an octogenarian to drive than said Cadillac (the choices of the driver have nothing to do with the comparative safety index of the vehicle), so a team full of top-level athletes is much harder to lose with, whether the coach is experienced or just a promoted coordinator, than one devoid of top-level athletes.

Reader's digest condensed version: you posted a bunch of specious nonsense.
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I've done some coaching at the high school level and have had some family that coached coordinator level in the SEC, and I'll mostly agree with you in that it's not the X's and O's so much as the Jimmies and Joe's. I do think that good coaching is more critical at the high school level than college level. My SEC coordinator family made the statement,"It's 5% coaching and 95% having the studs." Not saying that X's and O's don't make a difference.
jim43 said:
As I read the comments of posters, I see so many different favorites.

I admit that I do not know a lot about all the candidates which have been mentioned, and I wonder just how much these posters actually know about them.

We have had some bad coaches, it is true. Maybe they were hired for the wrong reasons, and by the wrong people. However, I firmly believe UT has learned some hard lessons, and that Danny White is a breath of fresh air.

I hope, and I believe, we are ready to take bold, new steps toward righting the ship. I would hope all those who choose to be negative, even before a coach can be chosen, will remain silent and allow Danny White to do his job. Otherwise, we will continue to go down hill, and things will not change.

He is paid well, and has been given the tools necessary to make informed decisions based upon many factors which NO ONE on this, or other boards, have access to.

Please stop the negative comments, and the attempts to tell DW how to do his job. Realize that no matter your experience, you do not have even a portion of the information he has. That does not mean he will make the perfect choice, but it means we have a much, much better chance of a good choice, than any choice made by ANYONE on this, or other, boards.

Go Vols!
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They can't stop. Being negative is their drug. There can be a time to be negative, but this is not the time. It's time now to let Danny do his job and keep your mouth shut and your keyboard idle
 
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