ACC School Reportedly is Attempting to Join the SEC in the ‘Near Future’

[Nouveaux]

UNC and UVA make the most sense. They're the top schools in their state and they bring new states to the conference. NCSt and VT are probably better fits culturally but they don't bring near the prestige of the other two. Clemson and FSU/Miami bring nothing unique to the conference.

 

[TNnative]

Memphis goes to the ACC, UNC comes to the SEC, and Missouri goes..... does anyone really care where Missouri goes?

Had you said Vanderbilt instead of Missouri? I mean yeah, 5 star academics, but -1 star athletics (aside from baseball)

 

[dobre_shunka]

UNC itself cannot decide change conferences. The NC university system board gave themselves sole and final authority on conference moves.

UNC Chapel Hill probably has the juice to make the board do what they want. However that board is also responsible for NCSU which could be left high and dry if Chapel Hill leaves the ACC which would likely start the collapse of the ACC.

 

[DaddyChad]

Always follow the money and the money is TV markets. Which schools would move and have the most to offer the conference?

 

[RDU VOL#14]

UNC itself cannot decide change conferences. The NC university system board gave themselves sole and final authority on conference moves.

UNC Chapel Hill probably has the juice to make the board do what they want. However that board is also responsible for NCSU which could be left high and dry if Chapel Hill leaves the ACC which would likely start the collapse of the ACC.

UNC is the flagship school for the entire ACC. If it goes, the conference will collapse or become a shell of itself like the PAC 12. Have ECU, App and Coastal join or something crazy like that

 

[VOLLeeann]

North Carolina

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[onevol74]

I don’t want the SEC to expand at all-I want the conference to shrink, instead. But if we must expand…. Let’s bring Georgia Tech back (they never should’ve left anyway), and bring the Hokies aboard (wish they’d come instead of Mizzou). To hell with the Heels, Noles, Clemson and Duke. Texas and OU are bad enough, the last thing we need are any of those 4.

The reason GT left was Bama cheating and the rest of the conference not doing anything about it. They were once one of our traditional rivals.

 

[stolitonic]

The reason GT left was Bama cheating and the rest of the conference not doing anything about it. They were once one of our traditional rivals.

Tech left the SEC as they knew in general that they weren't gonna be able to keep up. At the time Tech left, the only majors Tech offered were engineering/science based majors. Management, etc was added in the 80s and would be what athletes majored in while I was there. I believe now it is theoretically possible to graduate Tech with a history, English, etc degree. I remember early in my career there the school achieving their first graduate of the English program lol. The professors were busy patting themselves on the back for quite a while



GT was simply going to become another punching bag like Candy if they had stayed in the SEC as they could no longer attract top of the line talent due to academics.



That was from the lips of Bobby Dodd himself in the 80s. I'm sure there were small disputes with individual schools as you reference, but the primary driver was changing dynamics in the football landscape. Big was getting bigger already back in those days

 

[dobre_shunka]

Interesting comments regarding UNC to SEC.

UNC's SEC Dreams Crushed as Belichick Sparks Chaos

"You don’t want to go to the SEC and get your doors blown off and lose an entire generation basically of football fans because… maybe UNC would be lucky to go 7–6 with an SEC schedule.” According to Hale, the fear of being football roadkill is real, and it’s one of the major reasons UNC’s administration views the Big Ten as a better long-term fit.

UNC’s donor culture, often stereotyped as the “wine and cheese crowd”, as another reason for leaning toward the Big Ten. “These are more classical football fans,” Hale said. “They think they’re above a lot of people… They still view very much like the prestige, the academics.”

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Interesting comments regarding UNC to SEC.

UNC's SEC Dreams Crushed as Belichick Sparks Chaos

"You don’t want to go to the SEC and get your doors blown off and lose an entire generation basically of football fans because… maybe UNC would be lucky to go 7–6 with an SEC schedule.” According to Hale, the fear of being football roadkill is real, and it’s one of the major reasons UNC’s administration views the Big Ten as a better long-term fit.

UNC’s donor culture, often stereotyped as the “wine and cheese crowd”, as another reason for leaning toward the Big Ten. “These are more classical football fans,” Hale said. “They think they’re above a lot of people… They still view very much like the prestige, the academics.”

David Hale echos everything that I’ve said about the Heels in this forum for a long time. Yes, there are some very passionate UNC fans out there that believe they can go beyond being a “sleeping giant”, but the problem is that @Pennheel and others like him aren’t the majority. If they were, UNC’s football program would be in a better place. Just like Hale says in the article, I’ve said I thought that I don’t think the $ people and the university faculty have the stomach for SEC football, bc they see themselves above it. If UNC isn’t an ACC school they are one of those schools that view themselves as a “Public Ivy”, like a UVA, Wisconsin, Michigan, Cal and should align more closely with the B1G.

 

[Flogballs]

Always follow the money and the money is TV markets. Which schools would move and have the most to offer the conference?

I am skeptical about the power of traditional cable markets when viewers can stream any game they want these days… but whatever the reality of that situation I think Clemson, FSU, Miami bring the most eyes

 

[05_never_again]

David Hale echos everything that I’ve said about the Heels in this forum for a long time. Yes, there are some very passionate UNC fans out there that believe they can go beyond being a “sleeping giant”, but the problem is that @Pennheel and others like him aren’t the majority. If they were, UNC’s football program would be in a better place. Just like Hale says in the article, I’ve said I thought that I don’t think the $ people and the university faculty have the stomach for SEC football, bc they see themselves above it. If UNC isn’t an ACC school they are one of those schools that view themselves as a “Public Ivy”, like a UVA, Wisconsin, Michigan, Cal and should align more closely with the B1G.

I don't think the issue is that UNC couldn't be great at football; I think the issue is that they don't want to do what would be required in order to do so.

Don't have the stomach for it as you said, they perceive too many risks (what if they dedicated a ton of resources towards it and got better, but still couldn't hang with upper echelon SEC teams), despite the potential financial windfall their booster base/alums just aren't passionate enough about football, what if basketball suffered because they took their eye off of it, etc.

UNC is a great football head coaching job though. They're currently paying a coach $10m/year and will be OK if he wins 8 games with an ACC schedule.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I don't think the issue is that UNC couldn't be great at football; I think the issue is that they don't want to do what would be required in order to do so.

Don't have the stomach for it as you said, they perceive too many risks (what if they dedicated a ton of resources towards it and got better, but still couldn't hang with upper echelon SEC teams), despite the potential financial windfall their booster base/alums just aren't passionate enough about football, what if basketball suffered because they took their eye off of it, etc.

This is something they’re struggling with right now. They just paid for Belichick, his staff, his needs and wants to be successful and then you have UNC’s NIL for basketball, which is reportedly $14 million. A lot of people’s opinion, mine included, doesn’t see UNC being a top 5 team in the ACC this season. Personally, I think they’re throwing that # out to say that they gave Hubert all the resources to be successful, but also knowing that they won’t be up to the Carolina standard and justify his termination. Where do they go now if/when they fire Hubert this season? I honestly they’re seeing the tea leaves and they don’t like what they’re seeing . Duke is outspending them and out performing them, Will Wade will legitimately make NC State relevant right away, within 2 years. UNC is behind right now, which is why they may be leaking stuff about leaving.