A valuable lesson Tennessee has yet to learn

[Okie]

Let's see:
Hire a guy who takes over a program that was 19W/27L the previous 4 years
He goes 45W/19L in the next 5 years
Never had a losing record
Worst season is 7W/4L his first season
Has 3, 9 win seasons
Has 2, 10 win seasons
Has 1, 11 win season
1 Playoff appearance
Overall HC record of 73W/27L - 73%
Top 10 winningest active coaches by %

And the list goes on.

Yet, we should dump him. Go ahead, the next Dooley, Jones, Pruitt, etc., is awaiting your call.

 

[Sudden Impact]

being a "hot name" ain't the same thing as being a proven head coach. only a proven head coach can even be considered a splash hire.

Ryan Day has been able to sustain OSU all on his own. but you're right he inherited a program with talent which is exactly what Tennessee has right now and exactly the point of this lesson.

No he has not on his own. NIL, Recruiting and $$$$. Ohio St recruits itself and he really struggled against a weak schedule until last year. He was able to buy players because of the fans.

 

[BenGrimm]

whenever calls come to fire the coach there are many grown @ss men on this board that literally sh!t themselves with fear.

Why? Its because of the dumb way that Tennessee will let a coach hang around until they completely ruin the program to an unfixable level before they let them walk and make the program so undesirable that nobody will coach here. when in reality the only thing that matters is not who the coach is but what is the current state of the program. you need to preserve that.

what do Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia and LSU all have in common? they all made coaching transitions one way or another BEFORE the program was a disaster.

and did they make splash hires?

well Bama hires Deboer who was almost a nobody with just 3 years HC experience. those fans don't even like him. Tennessee fans never would not have considered this a splash hire for Tennessee.

Georgia hired a DC with no head coaching experience. Basically Jeremy Pruitt 1.0. not a splash hire at the time.

OSU hired an assistant coach from within the program that nobody outside of OSU had ever even heard of.

what was far far far more important than who got hired is the fact that the program was NOT a disaster. it was NOT devoid of talent. that's because the coaching transition was allowed to happen BEFORE the coach ran the program into a ditch.

so people always love to say "oh yeah smart guy well who is your list of replacements?" and then they will act like they know something and start to disprove all your choices.

But I think the next splash hire in college football is not Lane Kiffin to LSU. its going to be a guy almost nobody has ever heard of, but he will be given the keys to a fully loaded team that isn't a disaster. and he will make a name for himself and only later will idiots call it a splash hire.

the key to making it to the elite level of college football is having lots and lots and lots of NIL money and not being afraid of change as long as that change happens BEFORE you become a 6-6 football team.

Regardless of who Heupel fires or hires for next year, we will lose a minimum of 4 games next year. that's a practical guarantee.

Tennessee won't win any SEC titles or national titles until they learn the lesson above.

Fulmer was the last coach TN “let hang around” and he actually left a pretty decent roster. Kiffin should have won 8-9 with that roster then of course left on his own.

Dooley, gone in 3.
Butch got 5 but 2016 was still trending up. He was promptly fired for a losing season in 2017. He also left behind a decent roster.

Pruitt got 3 and left a burning dumpster behind.

Not exactly sure what your point is.

We are also in a new era than all of those previously fired coaches had to deal with. Fire Heupel and watch this solid roster evaporate in the portal.

 

[EZE]

This is some of the dumbest crap I’ve ever read.

Carry on.

 

[livefaith]

The armchair ADs are still on the loose I see.

 

[VOL765309]

Someone give me 10 good reasons not to hire Grudes. He is hungry to return to football. He is offensive minded. He LOVES Tennessee. His name would be HUGE for recruiting. He has learned his lesson the hard way.

Auburn gave our beloved Bruce Pearl a second shot, and how'd that work out for them, huh?

Grudes, or CJG.

Neither.

 

[DaddyChad]

whenever calls come to fire the coach there are many grown @ss men on this board that literally sh!t themselves with fear.

Why? Its because of the dumb way that Tennessee will let a coach hang around until they completely ruin the program to an unfixable level before they let them walk and make the program so undesirable that nobody will coach here. when in reality the only thing that matters is not who the coach is but what is the current state of the program. you need to preserve that.

what do Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia and LSU all have in common? they all made coaching transitions one way or another BEFORE the program was a disaster.

and did they make splash hires?

well Bama hires Deboer who was almost a nobody with just 3 years HC experience. those fans don't even like him. Tennessee fans never would not have considered this a splash hire for Tennessee.

Georgia hired a DC with no head coaching experience. Basically Jeremy Pruitt 1.0. not a splash hire at the time.

OSU hired an assistant coach from within the program that nobody outside of OSU had ever even heard of.

what was far far far more important than who got hired is the fact that the program was NOT a disaster. it was NOT devoid of talent. that's because the coaching transition was allowed to happen BEFORE the coach ran the program into a ditch.

so people always love to say "oh yeah smart guy well who is your list of replacements?" and then they will act like they know something and start to disprove all your choices.

But I think the next splash hire in college football is not Lane Kiffin to LSU. its going to be a guy almost nobody has ever heard of, but he will be given the keys to a fully loaded team that isn't a disaster. and he will make a name for himself and only later will idiots call it a splash hire.

the key to making it to the elite level of college football is having lots and lots and lots of NIL money and not being afraid of change as long as that change happens BEFORE you become a 6-6 football team.

Regardless of who Heupel fires or hires for next year, we will lose a minimum of 4 games next year. that's a practical guarantee.

Tennessee won't win any SEC titles or national titles until they learn the lesson above.

I mean all those programs have run their football program into the ground from time to time. Tennessee is more serious about a game day experience than actually winning the damned ballgame now.