A Tale of Two Basketball programs

#352
#352
hatvol96 said:
Nice observation. It's interesting to notice the absence from the board of all the Bruce slurpers who have been yammering for three years that Memphis is overrated. I guess they can't deal with the fact that, in each of those seasons, Cal has taken his troops deeper into the tournament than Pearl.
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.....refresher....Bruce slurpers???
 
#355
#355
hatvol96 said:
Cal=Took a program that had the nation's worst record in the 10 years preceding his arrival to the Final Four.
Bruce Pearl=His crowning achievement is, depending how you look at it, being an NCAA stoolie or winning a National Title at Jerkwater State.
Cal=5 Elite Eights.
Pearl=0.

Pearl will prove to be nothing more than a flashy version of his mentor, Tom Davis.
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#358
#358
Oh my goodness, it was freakin crazy. Hold on I'll get you a link. I'll give you permission to publish the pages. You can make some money off it. It goes everywhere from UT-Cal, false accusations, more false accusations, even more false accusations, crazy Cal fans sneaking on and taking over, Paris Hilton bashing, UT basketball talk, Pac 10 football talk, endless debate on who excatly Teddyhead is/was. And about 100 more things.
 
#359
#359
TennesseeFan07 said:
Oh my goodness, it was freakin crazy. Hold on I'll get you a link. I'll give you permission to publish the pages. You can make some money off it. It goes everywhere from UT-Cal, false accusations, more false accusations, even more false accusations, crazy Cal fans sneaking on and taking over, Paris Hilton bashing, UT basketball talk, Pac 10 football talk, endless debate on who excatly Teddyhead is/was. And about 100 more things.
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Sounds like it was par for the course around here. :thumbsup:
 
#360
#360
volbreaker said:
My name is Hat. I live in Lauderdale and I think every lawyer but me sux.
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It's late and I don't feel like reading through all of this thread, but I get the sense there is some lawyer bashing going on.

I'm also a lawyer. I have represented a Fortune 100 company for a number of years, working on some cases worth more money than anyone on this board will ever make (certainly myself included). (A bold statement, but unless we have members who are Rockefeller-rich I feel confident it is true.) In that capacity, I have never engaged in any tactics I wouldn't feel comfortable confessing to my priest (without fear of earning penitence) or telling you about if I could.

True, I was working for a big company with a lot of assets. But I was also representing all of its stockholders, some of whom were mom and pop investors, and thousands of hard-working rank-and-file employees who depended on that company to provide a better life for their families. All of the above were entitled to a competent and zealous advocate who would represent their interests against an equal rival on the other side of the case. Our justice system is based on this adversarial system and cannot function without it.

Early in my career, I helped a young couple get their daughter back from an ill-advised foster care arrangement, just in time for them to ship off in connection with the husband's military career. (This I did for free.) I also got 12 Marines (age 18-20) from Millington out of an underage drinking rap that threatened their military careers. This success was based on what some of you would derisively call a "technicality," but I felt like if they were old enough to leave in a few weeks and kill or be killed at their nation's request, we shouldn't begrudge them a few beers at a party during which no one breached the peace.

I got more personal satisfaction from those cases than any of the multi-million dollar cases I have worked on since.

I tell these contrasting stories only to give a sense of the diverse issues that confront people working on both sides of our legal system. Not all of it is sexy or financially immense, but a lot of it makes a big difference in the lives of ordinary people.

My point is, our legal system depends on people like me (hopefully most of whom are more skilled than me) to fight hard on opposite sides of issues. Is justice always done? Certainly not. But I don't have a better idea about how to resolve civil disputes or adjudicate the guilt or innocence of people whose life or liberty is at stake in a criminal case.

God forbid you need a lawyer someday to save your property or your life. As someone pointed out earlier, if you do, he or she will be your best friend.

I'm blessed to make a good living doing what I do, so maybe I should be thick-skinned when people generalize about my profession in a negative way. But I have good friends who do public interest legal work and make a very modest living, but take great satisfaction out of serving a higher cause. If nothing else, they deserve more respect for the contribution they make to our society.

Some of us are bad. Most of us try hard to be good and honest. But all of us are doing a job that, for better or worse, needs to be done if you want to live in a society that tries to settle disputes in a civilized and roughly fair manner.

Wow, didn't mean to get so deep. Sorry if this is a buzz-kill. Hey, how 'bout them Lady Vols?
 
#363
#363
dsbyrd said:
It's late and I don't feel like reading through all of this thread, but I get the sense there is some lawyer bashing going on.

I'm also a lawyer. I have represented a Fortune 100 company for a number of years, working on some cases worth more money than anyone on this board will ever make (certainly myself included). (A bold statement, but unless we have members who are Rockefeller-rich I feel confident it is true.) In that capacity, I have never engaged in any tactics I wouldn't feel comfortable confessing to my priest (without fear of earning penitence) or telling you about if I could.

True, I was working for a big company with a lot of assets. But I was also representing all of its stockholders, some of whom were mom and pop investors, and thousands of hard-working rank-and-file employees who depended on that company to provide a better life for their families. All of the above were entitled to a competent and zealous advocate who would represent their interests against an equal rival on the other side of the case. Our justice system is based on this adversarial system and cannot function without it.

Early in my career, I helped a young couple get their daughter back from an ill-advised foster care arrangement, just in time for them to ship off in connection with the husband's military career. (This I did for free.) I also got 12 Marines (age 18-20) from Millington out of an underage drinking rap that threatened their military careers. This success was based on what some of you would derisively call a "technicality," but I felt like if they were old enough to leave in a few weeks and kill or be killed at their nation's request, we shouldn't begrudge them a few beers at a party during which no one breached the peace.

I got more personal satisfaction from those cases than any of the multi-million dollar cases I have worked on since.

I tell these contrasting stories only to give a sense of the diverse issues that confront people working on both sides of our legal system. Not all of it is sexy or financially immense, but a lot of it makes a big difference in the lives of ordinary people.

My point is, our legal system depends on people like me (hopefully most of whom are more skilled than me) to fight hard on opposite sides of issues. Is justice always done? Certainly not. But I don't have a better idea about how to resolve civil disputes or adjudicate the guilt or innocence of people whose life or liberty is at stake in a criminal case.

God forbid you need a lawyer someday to save your property or your life. As someone pointed out earlier, if you do, he or she will be your best friend.

I'm blessed to make a good living doing what I do, so maybe I should be thick-skinned when people generalize about my profession in a negative way. But I have good friends who do public interest legal work and make a very modest living, but take great satisfaction out of serving a higher cause. If nothing else, they deserve more respect for the contribution they make to our society.

Some of us are bad. Most of us try hard to be good and honest. But all of us are doing a job that, for better or worse, needs to be done if you want to live in a society that tries to settle disputes in a civilized and roughly fair manner.

Wow, didn't mean to get so deep. Sorry if this is a buzz-kill. Hey, how 'bout them Lady Vols?
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Good post but u really killed my buzz. This reminds me of watching some great TnA flick late at night then i change the channel for a split second only to see sally struthers making us feel guilty for not donating to the little kids with flies buzzing around their eyeballs in zimbabwe.
 
#364
#364
HotlantaVol said:
I don't think Hat is an old dinosaur, and I enjoy his contributions to the board. We both have an appreciation for fine dining, and have swapped restaurant tips before.

I'd recommend you read and listen more, and judge less.
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There are plenty of other posters on this board who judge others :whistling:
 
#367
#367
hatvol96 said:
1. Yes.
2. It depends on Tyler Smith decision about the NBA draft and Scotty Hopson's choice of schools.
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If Hopson choses Tn does that make him an idiot?? Must be if he could play for any of the coaches that you, Mr. Armchair, identify as far superior.
 
#368
#368
timbotimp said:
SEC outright championship and losing the tournament championship = Not being able to win the big games when it counts and underachieving!
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This sounds like a posthumous assesment. The program was in shambles. What CBP has accomplished in three seasons is AMAZING!!!!
If this is underachieving to ya'll then ya'll are pretty freakin hard to please. He has given me EVERY reason to be exstatic that he is here and that he will be a GROWING presence nation wide. When is the last time you could say that......esp afterwhat he started with. I guess now ya'll consider our white ,short power forward a presence. Was that coaching or talent?? Remeber what he's had to work with fellas'
 
#369
#369
BigPapaVol said:
Not hard to understand, just wrong. Bruce brought in some recruits who have yet to pan out. Tyler transferred in on hardship. That's not Bruce making all of that happen. Lofton is an exceptional shooter and JJ isn't far behind. This is a talented team ans several different people pointed it out, you just didn't seem to hear.

Nobody's bashing Bruce, just pointing out he's not yet climbed the mountain.
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WRONG: Hat post # 12 "Keep pimping that first three years ". You can use that the same way fulmeridiots use 1998. The fact is simple
Pearl= not an elite coach. Not even close."
Or # 16 "Pearl will prove to be NOTHING MORE than a flashy version of his mentor"
#35 "I have the ability to discard optimism and pride in favor of harsh realities.
So much for the nobody's bashing Bruce fallacy....who's not paying attention?????:crazy:
 
#370
#370
volbreaker said:
WRONG: Hat post # 12 "Keep pimping that first three years ". You can use that the same way fulmeridiots use 1998. The fact is simple
Pearl= not an elite coach. Not even close."
Or # 16 "Pearl will prove to be NOTHING MORE than a flashy version of his mentor"
#35 "I have the ability to discard optimism and pride in favor of harsh realities.
So much for the nobody's bashing Bruce fallacy....who's not paying attention?????:crazy:
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if you were worth responding to, I would, but you're simply babbling to babble and have yet to say anything that I find knowledgeable enough to continue this.
 
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