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#76
#76
rjd970 said:
Dude has every right to express his opinions, and A&E has every right change status of his employment. I fail to see the hypocrisy.

Nobody forced him to be on the show.

I don't see what the problem is with any of this.
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It isn't just A&E versus Phil but you're an idiot so no need in repeating.
 
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#77
#77
govols/cc said:
It isn't just A&E versus Phil but you're an idiot so no need in repeating.
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What is it then? Some "dude" on a reality show - a scripted show at that - expresses his fear, his homophobia, but now you make it out to be bigger than what it actually is! Think about it. Then think about who the idiot is. Replace the bearded ones with the ample cleaved ones (kardashians) and you have the same scripted bull**** with the same low IQ viewers.
 
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KoachKletus said:
What is it then? Some "dude" on a reality show - a scripted show at that - expresses his fear, his homophobia, but now you make it out to be bigger than what it actually is! Think about it. Then think about who the idiot is. Replace the bearded ones with the ample cleaved ones (kardashians) and you have the same scripted bull**** with the same low IQ viewers.
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He's homophobic because he doesn't agree with the lifestyle?
 
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KoachKletus said:
What is it then? Some "dude" on a reality show - a scripted show at that - expresses his fear, his homophobia, but now you make it out to be bigger than what it actually is! Think about it. Then think about who the idiot is. Replace the bearded ones with the ample cleaved ones (kardashians) and you have the same scripted bull**** with the same low IQ viewers.
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This is just so full of fail.
 
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#80
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The Robertsons will survive this and I predict will become more popular than they already are now for standing up for their beliefs. Way to go Phil!
 
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gcbvol said:
I get that, but whether it was intentional or not that is how it comes across:

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men...”

He effectively equates them, whether he means to or not. I'm okay giving benefit of the doubt, but I cannot tell you how many times I've seen homosexuality listed right along side bestiality and pedophilia (not claiming in this specific case). One becomes a bit sensitive to it over time.
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Because they are all associated to ones sexual preference. Not saying one means the other.
 
#87
#87
The Ron Mexico said:
A&E is ran by a private company and should be allowed to run their business however they like.
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Unfortunately a recent court ruling ruled in favor of the plaintiff when their business was denied. Cant pull up the case, but it was the bakery that refused to do the homo wedding.
 
#88
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tim said:
Because they are all associated to ones sexual preference. Not saying one means the other.
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Sure, and I also understand that some are grouped together in the same scripture(s), so I'm sure that accounts for a lot of it. They probably hear them listed together in sermons, or read them in personal study, etc.

I don't want to take this off topic, but I also take a bit of issue by calling homosexuality a preference and/or lifestyle. Those terms both imply choice, and being gay is as much a choice as race or gender are choices. And, no, I'm not speaking for all who identify as gay, but everyone I know claims the same. That is what differentiates homosexuality with some of those other sins, imo.
 
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gcbvol said:
Sure, and I also understand that some are grouped together in the same scripture(s), so I'm sure that accounts for a lot of it. They probably hear them listed together in sermons, or read them in personal study, etc.

I don't want to take this off topic, but I also take a bit of issue by calling homosexuality a preference and/or lifestyle. Those terms both imply choice, and being gay is as much a choice as race or gender are choices. And, no, I'm not speaking for all who identify as gay, but everyone I know claims the same. That is what differentiates homosexuality with some of those other sins, imo.
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Sure, but also realize that to those who find homosexuality repugnant find it hard to believe something so repulsive to them could ever be a choice.
 
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gcbvol said:
Sure, and I also understand that some are grouped together in the same scripture(s), so I'm sure that accounts for a lot of it. They probably hear them listed together in sermons, or read them in personal study, etc.

I don't want to take this off topic, but I also take a bit of issue by calling homosexuality a preference and/or lifestyle. Those terms both imply choice, and being gay is as much a choice as race or gender are choices. And, no, I'm not speaking for all who identify as gay, but everyone I know claims the same. That is what differentiates homosexuality with some of those other sins, imo.
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It is a CHOICE. Everyone has sinful thoughts and everyone can choose to act on them or not. Homosexuality is a sin and you choose to commit it.
 
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One could argue that bias is NOT a choice also. I dont know if it is a choice to have bias, but what really causes us to form our opinions?
 
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SDV said:
It is a CHOICE. Everyone has sinful thoughts and everyone can choose to act on them or not. Homosexuality is a sin and you choose to commit it.
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Two different tracks. Yes, one does make a choice to enter into a same-sex relationship; one has no choice when it comes to their innate sexuality.

So I guess if someone is gay, their options are:

1) celibacy
2) try to force a heterosexual relationship where you will never be fully invested

Perfect.
 
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gcbvol said:
Two different tracks. Yes, one does make a choice to enter into a same-sex relationship; one has no choice when it comes to their innate sexuality.

So I guess if someone is gay, their options are:

1) celibacy
2) try to force a heterosexual relationship where you will never be fully invested

Perfect.
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I guess for me personally, it is more important to me to try to get to heaven, than who I want to have sex with. Only God will judge us in the end and I'd rather be safe than sorry
 
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gcbvol said:
Sure, and I also understand that some are grouped together in the same scripture(s), so I'm sure that accounts for a lot of it. They probably hear them listed together in sermons, or read them in personal study, etc.

I don't want to take this off topic, but I also take a bit of issue by calling homosexuality a preference and/or lifestyle. Those terms both imply choice, and being gay is as much a choice as race or gender are choices. And, no, I'm not speaking for all who identify as gay, but everyone I know claims the same. That is what differentiates homosexuality with some of those other sins, imo.
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Can homosexuality not be both? I know people who switched in the middle of their lives, and they definitely weren't "in the closet" at any time. What was stated to me was the fact they couldn't trust the opposite sex any more, and felt more reassured and loved by someone of the same sex. Some I know even switched back, after they didn't like the "bedroom lifestyle", as they put it. Making it a one sided argument for either, isn't productive as to why it happens in the first place.
 
#96
#96
The rush and push for tolerance from many minority groups by intolerance is counterproductive to their cause IMHO.

I've always wondered if these groups pay people to monitor the media for statements such as these.
 
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SDV said:
I guess for me personally, it is more important to me to try to get to heaven, than who I want to have sex with. Only God will judge us in the end and I'd rather be safe than sorry
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I understand where you're coming from. I won't take this further off the tracks. That's also why I have no problem with this man expressing his beliefs - we all have them and they tend to vary quite a lot.
 
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gcbvol said:
Two different tracks. Yes, one does make a choice to enter into a same-sex relationship; one has no choice when it comes to their innate sexuality.

So I guess if someone is gay, their options are:

1) celibacy
2) try to force a heterosexual relationship where you will never be fully invested

Perfect.
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3) Stay in the closet
 
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#99
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gcbvol said:
I understand where you're coming from. I won't take this further off the tracks. That's also why I have no problem with this man expressing his beliefs - we all have them and they tend to vary quite a lot.
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That's why I thought the gays would be supporting Phil.
 
#100
#100
Obsessed said:
Season premieres jan 15th

And a new network is in the works anyway. Phil is tired of A&E's bull crap. They have been pushing him and he pushed back.
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That's exactly what I said to someone yesterday. That if a&e keeps this crap up another network like cmt will swoop in and steal their number one show. When a show is as popular as duck dynasty and the Robertson s not really needing the money then a&e really has no leverage.
 
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