A couple of Friendly(Gator) thoughts on the game

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I'm not going to call you delusional. I'm just going to think it.

Actually, it's pretty obvious what you're trying to do. Under the guise of politeness you're trying to be a smart a and talk crap.
 
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FriendlyGator said:
18 of the last 20 winners in our series had the most rushing yards. How hard is that to understand?
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Do you know why that is true of UF during the 90's? Because Spurrier would use his high powered passing attack to get a big lead then start running the ball. UT was run dependent and got forced out of their game plan. They usually had to abandon the run trying to catch up.

The media harps on this every game since I was a student at UF. Other factors are going to be introduced when we play. It's never as simple as one single stat. But again, 18 of the last 20 winners, we'll get told time and time again by the commentators, have won the game.
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If UT gets ahead a 2 or 3 TD's on big plays, your run game advantage if you have one will be a non-factor.
 
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sjt18 said:
His English is poor... your facts are wrong. Then again, he didn't think himself worthy to write an analysis.
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Facts? I said they were my opinion and my thoughts. No where did I say thou shalt refer to them as fact as stated from the Holy Bible of FriendlyGatorness. Think, man. It's not hard. I wrote this "analysis" for some friendly discussion, which most of you haven't been able to replicate because I get one fact wrong. I do appreciate the others who have been able to discuss civilly though.
 
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sjt18 said:
If UT gets ahead a 2 or 3 TD's on big plays, your run game advantage if you have one will be a non-factor.
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Nail on the head. This is what worries me the most. I don't think we have the weapons yet on offense to compete in a shootout.
 
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FriendlyGator said:
I see what you're saying, and I agree with some of it. The BGSU game was treated as tryout if you will. There were so many substitutions, it was hard to establish any rhythm. Driskel started the 1st quarter, then the 2nd half. That's a tough game to point and say your offense sucks.

The TAMU game is also unique in that they didn't play their first game, they were fired up for their first SEC game ever, and it was at one of the hardest venues to play in. I can go deeper, but I don't want to spend too much time on it, but essentially, Easely was playing out of position which allowed Manziel to run all over us in the first plus we had no film on a team that had a new QB (who will eventually be one of the SEC greats IMO, and a new HC that has an outstanding offensive philosophy).

There are many unknowns regarding both our teams. It will be settled on Saturday, though. I agree that this is your best chance in years, but you also have to admit that this has been said at least the past 2-3 years at least. If you guys win, I'll probably be the first Gator to congratulate you on this board.
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That's alot of handwaving for a team you are predicting to win in such concrete terms.

There aren't that many unknowns with UT. The D is having growing pains in the new scheme. Most of their problems have been mental errors and not physical ones. They tackle better than any UT team in recent memory. My hope is that they throw caution to the wind, risk mistakes, and try to force as many mistakes as possible. Much like SOS in the 90's, their philosophy should be to get off the field in a hurry. Get the ball or give up points but let my O back on the field.

Offensively, you have an Olympic caliber player at WR then 3 other starters who are faster than he is. For the first time I can remember in 20 years, UT has faster, more talented skill players than UF. The scary thing for you is that Bray has matured as a QB. That doesn't mean he won't lay an egg but he HAS reached a point where he makes great pre-reads and then follows his check downs.

UT is currently 3rd in the SEC in rushing. About 6 yds better than UF though against slightly less stiff competition.... and of course you did lose all those sack yards.

You do not appear to have the offensive guns to turn the game into a blow out. So you can win in a relatively close game. UT DOES have the guns if the game is called straight up by the officials to turn it into an ugly evening for the Gators. I hate to say it just this way but the outcome may be determined by nothing more or less than whether your DB's get away with holding and interference or if they get called.
 
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For whatever it might be worth, Lane has better YPC than Gillislee with NCSU being by far his better game.
 
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This game looks totally different than it has in years. Dooley has said this week (in so many words) that they are essentially trying to play Patriots/Saints/Packers football. Fast no-huddle offense, throw the ball 40+ times, run the ball between the tackles only the keep the D honest and set up PA, manufacture a running attack by getting the ball to playmakers on the edge, and score as much as we can as fast as we can. The defense is feast or famine: it will give up yardage but is geared toward sacks and turnovers and ultimately is betting that it can stop the opponent more than they can stop our offense.

He talks about "doing a lot of soul-searching in the offseason" and "shifting the philosophy" of this team. He realizes that this new philosophy gives us the best chance to win this year with the players we have. He isn't going to try to bludgeon SEC defenses with power running, because we aren't built for that right now. That being said, I don't think the "12 of the last 14 games have been won by the team than wins the rushing battle" stat has quite as much bearing as in years past. It would great if we win the rushing battle, but Dooley isn't trying to slow down, control the clock, keep the ball away from UF like UT has tried to do for the last 20 years.
 
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FriendlyGator said:
I'm sorry, but can you please repeat this in English? "& you need corrections Bray's int which he haven't be picked off yet"? And you're trying to call me dumb? Come on, now. :lolabove:
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Him being dumb does not negate the fact that you are also dumb.
 
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I don't think there is a team in the nation to "contain" our WR's.Nothing personal but Fl's DB's will think Amerson did a good job "containing" UT's WR's when it is over.
 
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FriendlyGator said:
Facts? I said they were my opinion and my thoughts. No where did I say thou shalt refer to them as fact as stated from the Holy Bible of FriendlyGatorness. Think, man. It's not hard. I wrote this "analysis" for some friendly discussion, which most of you haven't been able to replicate because I get one fact wrong. I do appreciate the others who have been able to discuss civilly though.
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Bray hasn't thrown 4 INT's as you originally said.

UF cannot "continue" to be disciplined when they are the most penalized team in the conference through the first two weeks. You're 107th in the nation with 8.5 per game.

Saying your O looks better is certainly a subjective opinion but the fact is they've scored less per game vs A&M and BGSU than they avg'd over a full SEC season in '10 and '11. Total O is about the same as last year and significantly under two years ago. To say it is "better"... is a stretch based on what they've done so far.

You assumed that UF had better conditioning and depth. UT is thin in a few places but so is UF and especially now with the injuries you had vs A&M. Opinion? OK. It just looks like one you made without trying to find out what UT had.

Saying "Gilly" has been superb... OK. Another "opinion". You have not been able to trust your passing game as much as you would like so you've handed the ball off to MG. He leads the SEC in yardage but is 15th in ypc. And it still comes back to competition, right? BGSU was 104th in rush D last year.

"Unbelievable" that UF shut down A&M's O in the 2nd half? Their QB and top 3 receivers are Fr.... and you think it is "unbelievable" that UF's talented and experienced D was able to slow them down?
 
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I can't lie.. this kid is good. I respect him, he's taking a lot and not being a douche about it. I've dealt with way worse Florida fans.
 
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1vol said:
I don't think there is a team in the nation to "contain" our WR's.Nothing personal but Fl's DB's will think Amerson did a good job "containing" UT's WR's when it is over.
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UF will grab, hold, and interfere like they did last year. The question is whether they will get away with it and whether the SEC officials have the spine to throw an unsportsmanlike on Muschamp when it becomes apparent what they're doing.
 
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emzeeee said:
1. Do your research.
2. Continue to be disciplined? That's all the commentators talked about was how many boneheaded penalties you guys got. Start* being disciplined.
3. UT can still put up more points with less time of possession.
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Point 2 is the truth....so is 3! Quick strike!
 
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sjt18 said:
UF will grab, hold, and interfere like they did last year. The question is whether they will get away with it and whether the SEC officials have the spine to throw an unsportsmanlike on Muschamp when it becomes apparent what they're doing.
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We will get the calls this year in a very Hostile Tn home game
 
#193
#193
1. The OP should post his opinions on the Gators board.
2. Get your facts straight before posting.
3. No one cares about your opinion here.
 
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FriendlyGator said:
I'm not good at trash talk, and I'd rather discuss football than get banned on a rival board. So, I'll chalk up my thoughts of this game, keys for a victory on either side and hopefully this will stir up some civil discussion.

Some Friendly thoughts:
This game is going to play out like the games of old, but with the roles reversed. (weird, huh?) Tennessee comes in with a high powered offense, one of, if not the best QB/WR skill players in the SEC and reminds me of a fun'n'gun style offense. I'm still not sure how your defense will look, and from the look of the past 2 games your LBers *may* be a little suspect.

Florida comes in as a hard nosed, grind'em out type of team that reminds me of Fulmer's Vols of the 90's. Gilly has been nothing short of superb and leads the SEC in rushing so far this season. The passing attack, while not great, has been very good. Driskel has 0 turnovers and completes a high percentage of passes. We also have a new OC from Boise State (who also coached Kentucky a while back if you remember). He has not opened up the playbook 100% just yet primarily because of the young QBs. I still don't think we'll open it up 100% for you guys, but we'll see more plays, trick plays, etc.

If the stats plays out this year, the team with the most rushing yards should win the game. I'm not sure how your run game is just yet considering the competition you played. If Gilly is able to play through his groin injury, we should be able to limit the number of possessions you have. In the same token, UT should take advantage of some big plays in the passing game. I think defense will dictate who wins this game.

Keys for Tennessee:
1) Limit turnovers. Bray has 0 turnovers. Which is good because he can't afford any if you expect to beat Florida, especially if we are able to establish the run game. You can't expect to score on every possession.

2) Remain healthy. I want this to be a clean, injury free game. You can't afford to have one of your key playmakers go down with an injury this game.

3) Play lights out defense. Contain Gilly, or whoever is our RB for the game. This ideally should be the #1 key.

4) Establish the run. Marlon whatshisname (sorry, name escapes me at the moment) needs to have the game of his life.

Keys to a Florida win:

1) We continue to be a disciplined team. No turnovers or silly penalties.

2) We come out to play for a full 4 quarters. Our defense can't afford to spot UT an entire half. We are more than capable of containing their WRs. TAMU has the potential to have an outstanding offense and we will soon see this in SEC play. Shutting them down in the second half was unbelievable. We need the same output from the D the entire game.

3) Gilly. It looked like he had a groin injury from his last TD run. I hope he'll be fine, but he will be a key to winning. Without him, Brown and Jones will really need to step it up.

4) Continue to open the playbook up for Driskel. I think we can all agree that the offense looked lightyears better than the last 2 years. We need to continue to open it up. I'd like to see some 5 yard slants and maybe some screens thrown in this week.

5) Limit the sacks. Whether it's on the OL or Driskel, we can't afford to have Driskel on his back.

6) Keep their offense off the field by winning the time of possession stat. This will be huge for us if we can limit them to 7 or 8 possessions for the game, or less.

This game will go either way and will be close. It will come down to defense, conditioning and depth. This is why I think Florida will ultimately win. Tennessee will hold a lead going into the half and through the 4th quarter, but our last drive we kick a game winning field goal.

Final Score:

Florida- 23
Tennessee - 21
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It appears that you are a journalism major (probably at UF), and you are using this post as class work; so, I'll do the job of your professor, you get an F+.

This is a new world; the old rules do not apply. We don't have to out gain you in the running game to win, we just have to blast you with 9's (receiver routes), and then hit our tight end over the middle (or a receiver screen). When you adjust to stop the middle routes, we will just throw the TD (because that leaves either Hunter or CP in man to man). The only similarities to the CPF era is that for the first time (since the CPF era), you have actually played a real team before you drag your ass into K-town (in the past we always played real teams before our matchup). So, you will have to deal with the injuries and the wounded warriors. No, my friend, this has nothing to do with history, so bring your ass on down to K-town and get the beating you've been needing.

BTW, how do you like my gator?
 
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My opinion and a buck might get you a cup of coffee somewhere but fwiw, I have a feeling about this game.. FL is ripe for a drubbing.. I think we beat them and I dont think it will be close.. I think it's one of those games that's close for a bit but breaks open on a couple of big plays.. After that the foot wont come off the gas till late.. I'm liking USMC's prediction or something in that range.. I'll say.... 42-21.. FL scores late to make it look closer than it actually will be..
 
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FriendlyGator said:
I'm not good at trash talk, and I'd rather discuss football than get banned on a rival board. So, I'll chalk up my thoughts of this game, keys for a victory on either side and hopefully this will stir up some civil discussion.

Some Friendly thoughts:
This game is going to play out like the games of old, but with the roles reversed. (weird, huh?) Tennessee comes in with a high powered offense, one of, if not the best QB/WR skill players in the SEC and reminds me of a fun'n'gun style offense. I'm still not sure how your defense will look, and from the look of the past 2 games your LBers *may* be a little suspect.

Florida comes in as a hard nosed, grind'em out type of team that reminds me of Fulmer's Vols of the 90's. Gilly has been nothing short of superb and leads the SEC in rushing so far this season. The passing attack, while not great, has been very good. Driskel has 0 turnovers and completes a high percentage of passes. We also have a new OC from Boise State (who also coached Kentucky a while back if you remember). He has not opened up the playbook 100% just yet primarily because of the young QBs. I still don't think we'll open it up 100% for you guys, but we'll see more plays, trick plays, etc.

If the stats plays out this year, the team with the most rushing yards should win the game. I'm not sure how your run game is just yet considering the competition you played. If Gilly is able to play through his groin injury, we should be able to limit the number of possessions you have. In the same token, UT should take advantage of some big plays in the passing game. I think defense will dictate who wins this game.

Keys for Tennessee:
1) Limit turnovers. Bray has 0 turnovers. Which is good because he can't afford any if you expect to beat Florida, especially if we are able to establish the run game. You can't expect to score on every possession.

2) Remain healthy. I want this to be a clean, injury free game. You can't afford to have one of your key playmakers go down with an injury this game.

3) Play lights out defense. Contain Gilly, or whoever is our RB for the game. This ideally should be the #1 key.

4) Establish the run. Marlon whatshisname (sorry, name escapes me at the moment) needs to have the game of his life.

Keys to a Florida win:

1) We continue to be a disciplined team. No turnovers or silly penalties.

2) We come out to play for a full 4 quarters. Our defense can't afford to spot UT an entire half. We are more than capable of containing their WRs. TAMU has the potential to have an outstanding offense and we will soon see this in SEC play. Shutting them down in the second half was unbelievable. We need the same output from the D the entire game.

3) Gilly. It looked like he had a groin injury from his last TD run. I hope he'll be fine, but he will be a key to winning. Without him, Brown and Jones will really need to step it up.

4) Continue to open the playbook up for Driskel. I think we can all agree that the offense looked lightyears better than the last 2 years. We need to continue to open it up. I'd like to see some 5 yard slants and maybe some screens thrown in this week.

5) Limit the sacks. Whether it's on the OL or Driskel, we can't afford to have Driskel on his back.

6) Keep their offense off the field by winning the time of possession stat. This will be huge for us if we can limit them to 7 or 8 possessions for the game, or less.

This game will go either way and will be close. It will come down to defense, conditioning and depth. This is why I think Florida will ultimately win. Tennessee will hold a lead going into the half and through the 4th quarter, but our last drive we kick a game winning field goal.

Final Score:

Florida- 23
Tennessee - 21
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I hope you get responses that are as classy as your post. Your initial ignorance about Bray's interception totals notwithstanding.
 
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m1al said:
My opinion and a buck might get you a cup of coffee somewhere but fwiw, I have a feeling about this game.. FL is ripe for a drubbing.. I think we beat them and I dont think it will be close.. I think it's one of those games that's close for a bit but breaks open on a couple of big plays.. After that the foot wont come off the gas till late.. I'm liking USMC's prediction or something in that range.. I'll say.... 42-21.. FL scores late to make it look closer than it actually will be..
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Amen! We can win by 50 if we want, but we will only show a portion of the play book. I heard we have somewhere around 1,000 plays, and Bray executes them all perfectly.
 
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