5 commits in 5 days........FB recruiting on fire

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K-town Vol Fan said:
We have 25 commits so far, 8 are 3 star. And are still in on some 5 stars. We have the 11th ranked class right now. We're where we need to be. We aren't going to recruit like Texas, UGA, Bama until we prove we can take the next step and win on the road.

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11th is basically where we have been for 20 years. We have 11 3 stars and 16 total. Not sure where you are getting your numbers. We have won more with Heupel but aren’t really recruiting any better than the 3 jokers before him. We have to if we are going to compete for championships. We will not compete for them if we don’t. To top it off, we had the worst transfer class in the power conferences.

Idk how I can get this through to the “we signed a 3 star so stars don’t matter” crowd, but I will try. There are like 32 5 stars per year and a few hundred four stars. There are thousands of 3 and 2 stars. Your odds of finding the next Travis Kelce are much higher with a 5 star than they are with 2 and 3 stars. I mean just look at who wins the championships every year. Their rosters aren’t built on the idea that they can find All Pros with 2 star recruits, even if a very small percentage of 2 and 3 stars do end up hitting it big. For every Travis Kelce and Patrick Mahomes, you have a few thousand guys who can’t play dead. The odds that a 3 star does nothing are astronomically higher than the odds are that he becomes a very good player.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Stars are everything. Compare the percentage of 5 stars who make it to the NFL compared to the percentage of 2 and 3 stars who make it. It absolutely hammers home the fact that stars do matter. There are only 130-140 5 stars across college football every year. There are 260 some odd NFL Draft picks. Of course the league isn’t made of up entirely of 5 stars, because there aren’t enough of those to field a whole NFL division, but 5 stars are more represented on rosters than any other tier of player by the percentages.

If you take one player, his star rating doesn’t matter. If you take an entire recruiting class, the amount of 2 and 3 stars determines your ceiling. If a plurality of your recruiting class is 3 stars, you aren’t winning anything of consequence. Our recruiting philosophy has to change.
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This is complete BS...I hope nobody believes you. You are a festering boil on the butt of this fan base and likely a miserable bastard who is intolerable in the rest of your life as well. I bet you make your own family completely miserable. Go root for the Gumps. Clearly you can't stand UT. At least your screen name is accurate. Its the last time you were correct.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
While I do agree that CJH needs to step up his game on recruiting, I don't think this is the class to complain about. If we get the 5* RB Hiter and flip Keys, this would easily be a top 5 class. We have 8 three stars committed, the current #1 class Texas has 6.

Also, stars aren't everything. The majority of NFL players were 2 and 3 star recruits out of high school. Development, motor, drive play a key here.
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You are totally wrong. Approximately 90% of the NFL rosters today are made up of 4-5 star recruits out to high school!
 
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Freak does a good job of getting news of new commits on the main RF page. I can see the new commits on the players name and (Tennessee Commit) line. Never click on the title link because there is never discussion of the new commit--just a bunch of idiots yelling at each other on some unrelated subject. My rant is done!!!!
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
11th is basically where we have been for 20 years. We have 11 3 stars and 16 total. Not sure where you are getting your numbers. We have won more with Heupel but aren’t really recruiting any better than the 3 jokers before him. We have to if we are going to compete for championships. We will not compete for them if we don’t. To top it off, we had the worst transfer class in the power conferences.

Idk how I can get this through to the “we signed a 3 star so stars don’t matter” crowd, but I will try. There are like 32 5 stars per year and a few hundred four stars. There are thousands of 3 and 2 stars. Your odds of finding the next Travis Kelce are much higher with a 5 star than they are with 2 and 3 stars. I mean just look at who wins the championships every year. Their rosters aren’t built on the idea that they can find All Pros with 2 star recruits, even if a very small percentage of 2 and 3 stars do end up hitting it big. For every Travis Kelce and Patrick Mahomes, you have a few thousand guys who can’t play dead. The odds that a 3 star does nothing are astronomically higher than the odds are that he becomes a very good player.
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The thing is… Heupel’s recruits tend to get bumped in the rankings during their senior year as more tape is available to evaluate.

Then you have players whose ratings vary wildly depending on the site. On3 has Brandon a 4 star and like the 6th best QB in the class, while the others all rank him 5*. The lineman from Baylor is all over the place as well. Tyreek King is a 3 star on 247. It just varies and all it takes is on bad rating to pull a lower end 4 star down to a 3 star.
 
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Believe what you will with stars.....But I challenge anybody to go back just to our NC year 1998....Look at all the schools that played for the BCS national championships and see what their star rankings were......Then go to the 4 teams that played in the 4 team playoffs and their star rankings....look at the national champions star rankings in those years....Then look at the final 4 of this past seasons playoff and NC game and what the star rankings were.

Again...believe what you want.....But stars do matter.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
There are thousands of 3 and 2 stars. Your odds of finding the next Travis Kelce are much higher with a 5 star than they are with 2 and 3 stars. I mean just look at who wins the championships every year. Their rosters aren’t built on the idea that they can find All Pros with 2 star recruits, even if a very small percentage of 2 and 3 stars do end up hitting it big.
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Why did you find it so necessary to mention 2 stars so many times? Why do you constantly go out of your way to constantly denigrate everything with asinine hyperbole?

How many 2 stars have we recruited with Heupel? Hell, go back to Fulmer and tell me how many 2 stars we've recruited the past 20 years. Isn't it that other than the occasional specialty spot, like a long snapper, that we simply don't recruit 2 stars?

Most of us our pragmatic enough to know that we're gonna have to punch above our weight and overachieve before we can realistically pull top 5 recruiting classes. How close we are to that is debatable. Haven't we been increasing our blue chip ratio under Heupel, though?
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
This is complete BS...I hope nobody believes you. You are a festering boil on the butt of this fan base and likely a miserable bastard who is intolerable in the rest of your life as well. I bet you make your own family completely miserable. Go root for the Gumps. Clearly you can't stand UT. At least your screen name is accurate. Its the last time you were correct.
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Lulz.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
This is complete BS...I hope nobody believes you. You are a festering boil on the butt of this fan base and likely a miserable bastard who is intolerable in the rest of your life as well. I bet you make your own family completely miserable. Go root for the Gumps. Clearly you can't stand UT. At least your screen name is accurate. Its the last time you were correct.
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Great post, you nailed the jerk.
 
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The cool part about the recruiting form is that everybody there is always wrong and everybody there is 100% convinced that they're right. Everyone is an "insider", because they work with CJH's cousin's nephew's babysitter's x boyfriend's neighbor. They always have the inside scoop.
 
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FBtime said:
Leonard Scott was track speed fast also.

Leonard Scott was a notable "speedster" for the Tennessee Vols football team. He was known for his speed and excelled as a wide receiver and kick returner. He was a successful track athlete and two-time SEC sprint champion in college. He holds the second-highest kickoff return yardage in UT history. After college, Scott went on to become a professional sprinter, competing primarily in the 100 meters, and achieved success including running a sub-10 second 100-meter race and winning a gold medal at the World Indoor Championships in the 60 meters.
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I remember one game - Cal maybe - where Scott got behind the DB at full sprint and was 20 yards past him by the time he made the endzone and then had to come back to catch the bomb
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
Why did you find it so necessary to mention 2 stars so many times? Why do you constantly go out of your way to constantly denigrate everything with asinine hyperbole?

How many 2 stars have we recruited with Heupel? Hell, go back to Fulmer and tell me how many 2 stars we've recruited the past 20 years. Isn't it that other than the occasional specialty spot, like a long snapper, that we simply don't recruit 2 stars?

Most of us our pragmatic enough to know that we're gonna have to punch above our weight and overachieve before we can realistically pull top 5 recruiting classes. How close we are to that is debatable. Haven't we been increasing our blue chip ratio under Heupel, though?
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I mentioned 2 stars because the article he linked mentioned 2 stars
 
#47
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marcusluvsvols said:
This is complete BS...I hope nobody believes you. You are a festering boil on the butt of this fan base and likely a miserable bastard who is intolerable in the rest of your life as well. I bet you make your own family completely miserable. Go root for the Gumps. Clearly you can't stand UT. At least your screen name is accurate. It’s the last time you were correct.
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Lol not one thing I said is BS, and you can’t refute a single word I said
 
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#48
I want to care, I really really do. I like myself better as a person when I obsessively follow recruiting.

But what are we really doing? Borrowing most of these guys for a semester until they inevitably portal out because we didn’t immediately name them starter/key player and they actually have to sit/wait/work for their role on the team?

Hard to get excited about it.
 
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NATHAN05 said:
For those of us who are scared to enter and/or have been chased off from the recruiting forum, I just wanted to give a shout out to Heupel and staff. Nice little 5 commits in 5 days going on. And I'd like think all 3 (Bey, Anderson, Golston) should be getting that 4* soon.

***This message was brought to you by OP who risked life and limb, standing quietly in the corner of the room of the recruiting forum with his Zima and Jolly rancher trying to look cool and hoping to see a familiar face that he could talk to, to make it seemed like he belonged***


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It might be the Jim Carrey avatar. Thank you for NOT choosing Taylor Swift.
 
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