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#51
#51
The Dude said:
1)It's a movie, not real.
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It is a movie about an actual event. It is history and is open to little to nothing in terms of some kind of "creative interpretation."
2)I agree. You should judge one's intellegence based on message board postings.
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I'll judge on what materials are provided...
 
#52
#52
therealUT said:
It is a movie about an actual event. It is history and is open to little to nothing in terms of some kind of "creative interpretation."

I'll judge on what materials are provided...
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I'm sorry, I didn't know Hollywood was your textbook.
 
#53
#53
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that one of the most remarkable battles to have been recorded in history (Meggido and Troy have yet to be proven as "history") is just not enough to be entertaining as is.
 
#58
#58
only a terrible critic would criticize a movie for sticking to its source material, which is a comic book
 
#61
#61
mattvols said:
only a terrible critic would criticize a movie for sticking to its source material, which is a comic book
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I understand that a comic book and a graphic novel were published by Frank Miller. I understand this also to be the basic storyboard of the movie. However, to say that the source material for a movie about a historical event is a comic book is laughable.
 
#62
#62
therealUT said:
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that one of the most remarkable battles to have been recorded in history (Meggido and Troy have yet to be proven as "history") is just not enough to be entertaining as is.
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The less one makes declarative statements the less one looks folish in retrospect:) The movie is very entertaining
 
#63
#63
therealUT said:
I understand that a comic book and a graphic novel were published by Frank Miller. I understand this also to be the basic storyboard of the movie. However, to say that the source material for a movie about a historical event is a comic book is laughable.
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Source: Comic book
I know history and at what point did I say the war was based on a comic book. I'm sorry you dont enjoy the movie, the movie is based on a comic book not history. If they based it on fact and it was like this then thats why you'd be pissed but get over it. The source material for the book is a comic book, period. Thats what the producers, directors and writers will say. The comic book has its own sources. Get over it and enjoy a good movie, or are you too smart and snooty for that.
 
#64
#64
Wow, never crossed my mind this thread would turn out this way. All this over a movie and it doesn't have anything to do with Jesus, Mary, or a church related sex scandal.
 
#65
#65
Why was this thread locked awhile ago? Too lazy to read through. Thanks for your assistance....
 
#66
#66
Just shut it down temporarily to let things cool off a little.
 
#67
#67
I guess I missed the big fuss as well. I did see the film and I liked it. I could tell right off why the nannies would decry it, because it presents Western Civilization as the genesis of democracy and freedom.
 
#68
#68
mattvols said:
Source: Comic book
I know history and at what point did I say the war was based on a comic book. I'm sorry you dont enjoy the movie, the movie is based on a comic book not history. If they based it on fact and it was like this then thats why you'd be pissed but get over it. The source material for the book is a comic book, period. Thats what the producers, directors and writers will say. The comic book has its own sources. Get over it and enjoy a good movie, or are you too smart and snooty for that.
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I am definitely too smart to enjoy a movie that tries to portray that Battle as 300-1000 warriors against 2 million. The historical accounts put that number at about 4,000 warriors (plus armed scribes, so 8,000-12,000 men) against 1.5 million.

It was pure military genius by Leonidas to pick the terrain for the battle. The pass would barely hold 1,000 men. Basically, the Greeks had at least a 4 to 1 (more like 10 to 1) advantage in numbers at the point of actual combat. Xerxes was willing to spend his men, and he had enough to continue to throw into the grinder to eventually overrun the Greeks' position.

What Miller has done, is akin to making a comic book covering Operation Overlord, and reducing the storming forces to a single Division, while encreasing the opposition forces by a Corps.
 
#69
#69
I just though he made a graphic novel as an artistic interpretation of the intamacy and gore of the battle, not an accurate recreation based on historical data. Just my opinion. Looks like a good movie Milo, I really liked Sin City and look foward to seeing this one.
 
#70
#70
Can't wait to see this freaking movie!!! I havn't heard one bad thing yet "from those who've seen it" :rock:
 
#71
#71
therealUT said:
I am definitely too smart to enjoy a movie that tries to portray that Battle as 300-1000 warriors against 2 million. The historical accounts put that number at about 4,000 warriors (plus armed scribes, so 8,000-12,000 men) against 1.5 million.

It was pure military genius by Leonidas to pick the terrain for the battle. The pass would barely hold 1,000 men. Basically, the Greeks had at least a 4 to 1 (more like 10 to 1) advantage in numbers at the point of actual combat. Xerxes was willing to spend his men, and he had enough to continue to throw into the grinder to eventually overrun the Greeks' position.

What Miller has done, is akin to making a comic book covering Operation Overlord, and reducing the storming forces to a single Division, while encreasing the opposition forces by a Corps.
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On a side, I have a dumb question. How does a mangaloir work? It looks like a pipe and you light the end and it blows up but I think it works different.
 
#72
#72
You do mean a bangalore, right?

You would have better luck asking a combat engineer or someone with a Sapper tab.
 
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