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Maybe because rivals and 247 both say he has huge upside including 247 comparing him to Ebron who just got drafted in 1st rd. He is just moved to TE this summer and is getting all his offers. Once he gets TE game film his bump will come. Barton Simmons has said he will be bumped once the game film backs up the camp tour. We aren't making these things up like you are

So with that and the fact Austin Smith will also likely get bumped, we just pulled in four 4* in 2 days. Pretty solid, even for stargazers imo
 
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If you dont like the kids who commit, then stop following recruiting. Plain and simple. Looking only at the stars and ignoring the reports on them and ignoring their offer lists is looking at only part of a larger picture. Theres a bunch of highly rated guys who will lose their ranking. Also the closer to signing day we get, the more 4 and 5*s will be given out.
 
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If you dont like the kids who commit, then stop following recruiting. Plain and simple. Looking only at the stars and ignoring the reports on them and ignoring their offer lists is looking at only part of a larger picture. Theres a bunch of highly rated guys who will lose their ranking. Also the closer to signing day we get, the more 4 and 5*s will be given out.

How do you get through the day or sleep at night or deal with the anxiety knowing that we got 5 commits in two or three days and only one of them is a clean 4* star sweep. That doesn't sit we'll with me for the moment. If they get a bump then everything changes, but until then, what do we do?
 
How do you get through the day or sleep at night or deal with the anxiety knowing that we got 5 commits in two or three days and only one of them is a clean 4* star sweep. That doesn't sit we'll with me for the moment. If they get a bump then everything changes, but until then, what do we do?

What the hell do you mean, what do we do?
We sit here, on message forums & watch who the coaches want to be on our team weather you like it or not! The coaches will develop these kids & perhaps they are perfect fits to the coaches & teams needs. Maybe let Butch field a team of his players, & then see what these kids can do. I want to be number one on the field vs being number one in some recruiting site.

Oh, & by the way, your opinion, much like mine means absolutely nothing.

Sweet dreams.
 
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Here is 4 of our toughest opponents this season. We all know Bama's classes are unfair. The other teams arent even close to these guys.

Oklahoma's Signing Class 2011 - 2014 (4 classes)
5* - 4
4* - 32
3* - 50
2* - 7
Unranked - 1


Florida's Signing Class 2011 - 2014 (4 classes)
5* - 6
4* - 47
3* - 39
2* - 2


Georgia's Signing Class 2011 - 2014
5* - 5
4* - 46
3* - 45
2* - 3


South Carolina Signing Class 2011 - 2014
5* - 1
4* - 32
3* - 66
2* - 2


Oklahoma and South Carolina sign way more 3*s than they do any other, and are the highest ranked of those 4 schools
 
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Here is 4 of our toughest opponents this season. We all know Bama's classes are unfair. The other teams arent even close to these guys.

Oklahoma's Signing Class 2011 - 2014 (4 classes)
5* - 4
4* - 32
3* - 50
2* - 7
Unranked - 1


Florida's Signing Class 2011 - 2014 (4 classes)
5* - 6
4* - 47
3* - 39
2* - 2


Georgia's Signing Class 2011 - 2014
5* - 5
4* - 46
3* - 45
2* - 3


South Carolina Signing Class 2011 - 2014
5* - 1
4* - 32
3* - 66
2* - 2


Oklahoma and South Carolina sign way more 3*s than they do any other, and are the highest ranked of those 4 schools

I understand that you can't have all 4 and 5s, I would just like it if that were the case and I thought Butch could pull it off after that legacy class last year. I convicted by friend who is a CU Buff fan to get text alerts for Vol commits and he says this... "Looks like another 3 star for UT, CU would beat UT". Good information from you though.
 
I don't understand how you could look at Austin Smith's film, measurables, and offer list and not be excited. The same goes for Kyle Oliver and Picou.
 
I don't understand how you could look at Austin Smith's film, measurables, and offer list and not be excited. The same goes for Kyle Oliver and Picou.

There are a lot of variables that play into film. Competition. All the guys that claim to watch film and evaluate these players, I mean, do they really know what they are doing?
 
I understand that you can't have all 4 and 5s, I would just like it if that were the case and I thought Butch could pull it off after that legacy class last year. I convicted by friend who is a CU Buff fan to get text alerts for Vol commits and he says this... "Looks like another 3 star for UT, CU would beat UT". Good information from you though.

Show him this.

Colorado Signing Class 2011 - 2014
5* - 0
4* - 3
3* - 58
2* - 29
Unranked - 4

Tennessee Signing Class 2011 - 2014
5* - 2
4* - 44
3* - 52
2* - 4
 
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If I had to predict how our guys will finish in the rankings I would say....

Preston Williams - 6.1 5*
Alvin Kamara - 6.0 4*
Jack Jones - 5.9 4*
Quinten Dormady - 5.9 4* (maybe 5.8)
Cecil Cherry - 5.8 4*
Jauan Jennings - 5.8 4*
Andrew Butcher - 5.8 4*
Zach Stewart - 5.8 4*
Stephen Griffin - 5.8 4*
Quay Picou - 5.8 4*
Rocky Reid - 5.8 4*
Austin Smith - 5.8 4*
Dylan Jackson - 5.7 3*
Kyle Oliver - 5.7 3* (maybe 5.8 4*)
Jocquez Bruce - 5.6 3*
Jaylond Woods - 5.6 3*
Riley Lovingood - 5.2 2*
 
If I had to predict how our guys will finish in the rankings I would say....

Preston Williams - 6.1 5*
Alvin Kamara - 6.0 4*
Jack Jones - 5.9 4*
Quinten Dormady - 5.9 4* (maybe 5.8)
Cecil Cherry - 5.8 4*
Jauan Jennings - 5.8 4*
Andrew Butcher - 5.8 4*
Zach Stewart - 5.8 4*
Stephen Griffin - 5.8 4*
Quay Picou - 5.8 4*
Rocky Reid - 5.8 4*
Austin Smith - 5.8 4*
Dylan Jackson - 5.7 3*
Kyle Oliver - 5.7 3* (maybe 5.8 4*)
Jocquez Bruce - 5.6 3*
Jaylond Woods - 5.6 3*
Riley Lovingood - 5.2 2*

That would be awesome. What's the deal with Bruce? It seems like even some of the experts on here are a little bothered by the take at this point.
 
That would be awesome. What's the deal with Bruce? It seems like even some of the experts on here are a little bothered by the take at this point.

They dont like him because he runs mid 4.5s-4.6 and that his competition isnt great. But the dude makes some serious cuts and has great vision. I like him, but I feel that he could be a grayshirt candidate. Im pretty sure he would accept too, because he is a big UT fan.

If you havent watched this yet, I made this a few days before the Orange Carpet weekend. Since I made it, weve added Kamara, Oliver, Smith and Picou. This video might remove some of your doubt

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHk0_WEPC1I[/youtube]
 
They dont like him because he runs mid 4.5s-4.6 and that his competition isnt great. But the dude makes some serious cuts and has great vision. I like him, but I feel that he could be a grayshirt candidate. Im pretty sure he would accept too, because he is a big UT fan.

If you havent watched this yet, I made this a few days before the Orange Carpet weekend. Since I made it, weve added Kamara, Oliver, Smith and Picou. This video might remove some of your doubt

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHk0_WEPC1I[/youtube]

That was just what I needed to power through my tower! Cecil is going to light some gators and elephants up! Bruce does look slow, but shifty. Where does Woods project at the next level?
 
That was just what I needed to power through my tower! Cecil is going to light some gators and elephants up! Bruce does look slow, but shifty. Where does Woods project at the next level?

JUCO. Lots of rumors about his attitude, grades and trouble. Rumored that his offer was pulled. If he makes it in, he is a slot.

Side note. The clips of Cherry in that video were from his sophomore year. His Junior tape is 10 times better with many more brutal hits.
 
Heres some more info about our 2/3 stars. Heres some of their offers (not all of their offers)

Griffin (10)- Clemson, Duke, GTech, Michigan, UNC, NCState
Jackson (6)- Bama, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, Vandy
Bruce (2)- Memphis
Oliver (14)- Kentucky, Louisville, Ole Miss, Miss St
Picou (20)- Cinci, GTech, Miami, Ole Miss, Miss St, Mizzou, NCState, Ohio State, TAMU
Reid (13)- Arky, GTech, KState, Louisville, NCState, WVU, Wisconsin
Smith (16)- Cinci, Florida, GTech, LSU, Miami, UNC, SCAR
Woods (2)- Clemson
Dormady (9)- Bama, UK, OKState, TCU, Vandy
 
Heres some more info about our 2/3 stars. Heres some of their offers (not all of their offers)

Griffin (10)- Clemson, Duke, GTech, Michigan, UNC, NCState
Jackson (6)- Bama, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, Vandy
Bruce (2)- Memphis
Oliver (14)- Kentucky, Louisville, Ole Miss, Miss St
Picou (20)- Cinci, GTech, Miami, Ole Miss, Miss St, Mizzou, NCState, Ohio State, TAMU
Reid (13)- Arky, GTech, KState, Louisville, NCState, WVU, Wisconsin
Smith (16)- Cinci, Florida, GTech, LSU, Miami, UNC, SCAR
Woods (2)- Clemson
Dormady (9)- Bama, UK, OKState, TCU, Vandy

Those are all decent to good offer lists for the most part and these guys could end up being solid players but do you see any program changers in there? The kind of player that we need to beat bama at Their place? Players that will hit you in the mouth and get in your face and almost get a taunting penalty, but hold off at the last second?
 
Those are all decent to good offer lists for the most part and these guys could end up being solid players but do you see any program changers in there? The kind of player that we need to beat bama at Their place? Players that will hit you in the mouth and get in your face and almost get a taunting penalty, but hold off at the last second?

I think a lot of our 3*s that we have are more situational. Remember, they will be behind the guys we got in the previous class.

Smith (LB). Will lay the wood and good in coverage. I think his skillset is identical to Dillon Bates. Reported that he could be the most underrated guy in the class and he is the biggest steal. Every down
Reid (RB). Powerback. Goal line/3rd-4th and short.
Picou (DT). Drives back the OL. Could be every down.
Oliver (TE). Jumpball receiver
Bruce (Slot). Shifty. Screens etc.
Jackson (DE). Bama offered.
Griffin (S). Will lay the wood and good in coverage. Every down.
Woods (Slot). Speedy. Maybe a return guy.
Dormady (QB). The guy that Bama wanted as their QB. Didnt play his Junior year because of an injury but is still a 4* on 247. #5 pro style QB on 247. Reported that he could have the best arm in the class.
 
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How do you get through the day or sleep at night or deal with the anxiety knowing that we got 5 commits in two or three days and only one of them is a clean 4* star sweep. That doesn't sit we'll with me for the moment. If they get a bump then everything changes, but until then, WHAT DO WE DO??

Edit: after I woke up decided not to knock that one into the seats. :aggressive:
 
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So Woody Womack's approval would help Nationdom sleep better than having CBJ's approval? The fact that a Vol fan lost any sleep because of the commits we got this weekend is really troubling. The only people that should be losing sleep over that are rival SEC coaches and fans.
 
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I would just like to say that until any of us have flown or driven to the schools these kids play for and watched them work out, and nunumerous conversations then we don't know a quarter of the story. I myself am not a star slut as I have seen many high ranked kids flop. I have seen many low ranked kids excel. Anyway, these kids have not even played their senior seasons so to all the star sluts, hold your horses and quit f'n whining. It's sickening. Sounds like my 6 year old.
 
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Most people have our qb as a 4 star. Kid is top notch. He's only ranked low because he missed last season with an injury.

Picou is a 4 star on 247.

And incase you're unaware, they don't rank kickers or long snappers as 4 or 5 stars.

exactly this^^ no one cried when jalen hurd missed his senior season and his ranking slipped a little, Kamara was a five star our of HS and Dormandy missed last season with an injury or your coveted 247 and rivals would have him in the top 100. You gotta do homework man, after one camp with Alabama he was offered, and likewise with Tennessee. That shows that this kid can ball out of his mind. I think if anything I would be worried zero about this staffs ability to recruit. Now we get to see this fall how well they can coach these kids and get results on the field.

But seriously wouldn't worry about their recruiting. :good!:
 
There are a lot of variables that play into film. Competition. All the guys that claim to watch film and evaluate these players, I mean, do they really know what they are doing?
You can't look at film as a "good play vs. bad play" perspective. You have to be able to see deeper into the film. Some people can evaluate film, some can't.
 
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