2026 Vols Transfer Portal Thread

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bleedingTNorange said:
As I’ve laid out, there’s a budget, acting like there isn’t is naive…we aren’t going out there with a blank check and $50m to fund a team, they’d have been assigning the top 2 guys at every position if so, that’s not reality.

Is the budget higher than it’s ever been, absolutely, can it increase a bit for the right guy, absolutely, is there still a ballpark to stay within, absolutely.
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Agree 💯. Those blank check players have proven to Not being enough. Imo
The Michigan model of last year is king right now. It’s about balance and buy-in.

GB🍊
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Factually false...NCAA Div I avg at the rim was 62% yet JP shot 65% playing in arguably the most physical conference. JP also finished as the 2nd best statistically in the SEC among all 4's and 5's based on his individual play per Evan Miya. I get it JP's gone and everybody (myself included) is hoping the new bigs can play well but let's try to temper the revisionist history just a tad.
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Does the NCAA average include guards attacking the rim? If so, then I’d certainly expect someone of JP’s size to have a better shooting %—more than 3% higher too.

Plus, a lot of Estrella’s misses weren’t due to physicality. Period.
 
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I'm very happy with our portal group thus far while we wait on Juke (or Ament) but when looking at Florida's returning frontcourt we have to add another big in my opinion. They would absolutely dominate us on the glass. They along with Michigan I think are clearly the top 2 teams moving into next year. I think our group could be anywhere in the top 10-15 range depending on your perspective at this point. Having Juke would move us up but still, I worry a bit about our frontcourt against the best teams.

I think Brown has more upside and can be a solid SEC post player, but as a true soph he still may be a year away. Rubin was productive at Loyola (Chicago) but he could use another 15-20 lbs and even then, he may be overpowered by the likes of Florida's frontcourt. It's fair to have questions about him as our starting post. Lue I think may be underrated for his proposed role on this team and will help space the floor but if we want to attack Florida's bigs with our guards penetrating into the paint, he is going to have to hit a high percentage of open shots on the perimeter (which he hasn't proved he can do yet) or on the baseline and/or use his athleticism to beat them down the court.

Haralson is going to be our Swiss army knife if we use him right. Perhaps the most intriguing portal guy we have. When he plays the 4 he can take any opponent off the dribble from the wing or in the middle of the court. He could be his own one-man fast break by crashing the defensive glass and pushing the ball up the court. It's not just his athleticism which enables him to do this. His ball handling for a guy of his size is pretty rare. Guy shoots a ton of FTs and will be a mismatch for small forwards who try and guard him due to his strength and will be too quick for power forwards. His productivity at Notre Dame was pretty impressive given he only averaged 26.6 minutes per game AND Notre Dame similar to UT was a slow tempo team.
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Factually false...NCAA Div I avg at the rim was 62% yet JP shot 65% playing in arguably the most physical conference. JP also finished as the 2nd best statistically in the SEC among all 4's and 5's based on his individual play per Evan Miya. I get it JP's gone and everybody (myself included) is hoping the new bigs can play well but let's try to temper the revisionist history just a tad.
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Look at the div 1 average at the rim for 6'11+ posts. JP wasn't in the top 100 in the nation in 2pt fg percentage.
 
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brockytop said:
Does the NCAA average include guards attacking the rim? If so, then I’d certainly expect someone of JP’s size to have a better shooting %—more than 3% higher too.

Plus, a lot of Estrella’s misses weren’t due to physicality. Period.
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It must be true if you say so...lmao

Edit: And bigs often have to attempt tips which aren't shots unlike guards...there are all kinds of factors. Bottom line, the advanced stats say JP is a really good offensive player who basically had his FR year this season so the odds say he will have a good season at MI barring injury.
 
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Vols410 said:
Right... and if you're looking for offensive impact, you're probably better off with OBPR than simple Box OBPR.
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Nope...the discussion is about JP's offense as a player which is precisely what Box OBPR is vs. just OBPR which is in the context of the player's specific team.
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Nope...the discussion is about JP's offense as a player which is precisely what Box OBPR is vs. just OBPR which is in the context of the player's specific team.
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You're only measuring box score impact with that stat though, which is highly team dependent.

The entire purpose of OBPR is to account for the team context and isolate that player's contribution to it.

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  • OBPR: Offensive Bayesian Performance Rating reflects the offensive value a player brings to his team when he is on the court. This rating incorporates a player’s individual efficiency stats and on-court play-by-play impact, and also accounts for the offensive strength of other teammates on the floor with him, along with the defensive strength of the opponent’s players on the floor. OBPR is interpreted as the number of offensive points per 100 possessions above D1 average expected by the player’s team if the player were on the court with 9 other average players. A higher rating is better.
  • Box OBPR: Box Offensive Bayesian Performance Rating is an estimate of a player’s offensive value, based only on his individual box stats. This serves as a prior starting point when calculating OBPR.
 
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Vols410 said:
You're only measuring box score impact with that stat though, which is highly team dependent.

The entire purpose of OBPR is to account for the team context and isolate that player's contribution to it.

Edit: From the website

  • OBPR: Offensive Bayesian Performance Rating reflects the offensive value a player brings to his team when he is on the court. This rating incorporates a player’s individual efficiency stats and on-court play-by-play impact, and also accounts for the offensive strength of other teammates on the floor with him, along with the defensive strength of the opponent’s players on the floor. OBPR is interpreted as the number of offensive points per 100 possessions above D1 average expected by the player’s team if the player were on the court with 9 other average players. A higher rating is better.
  • Box OBPR: Box Offensive Bayesian Performance Rating is an estimate of a player’s offensive value, based only on his individual box stats. This serves as a prior starting point when calculating OBPR.
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Not going round and round on this...I specifically stated "individual" and Box OBPR which doesn't adjust for teammates. More importantly my statement still stands even if you use OBPR which has JP listed as #5...he obviously is pretty dang good on offense so not sure what your point is???
 
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Vols410 said:
The way I see it, if your perimeter is loaded with scorers that can shoot and slash to the rim it’s not worth spending $$$ on a guy that has to take up space in the lane to get his production in. That can hurt you more than it helps you.
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That's the point. The bigs are clearly not being relied on as much for scoring with this roster construction, especially if Juke is aboard. Rim protection, rebounding on both ends, and finishing lobs are going to be the primary requirements.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
In my opinion which isnt worth a heal of beans but i think JP just didnt bring much on the defensive end but fouls. So much potential on the offensive end. Maybe a change of scenery is just what the doctor ordered for him. But i like more athletic shot blockers that can go finish and not be soft around the rim. I hope thats what we are getting.
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He was a good backup and good dude
And sadly injury prone
He had some good moments and bad - like the couple of times he thought he was Dr J taking off at the foul line

Good luck young man
 
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Namorto1 said:
I'm very happy with our portal group thus far while we wait on Juke (or Ament) but when looking at Florida's returning frontcourt we have to add another big in my opinion. They would absolutely dominate us on the glass. They along with Michigan I think are clearly the top 2 teams moving into next year. I think our group could be anywhere in the top 10-15 range depending on your perspective at this point. Having Juke would move us up but still, I worry a bit about our frontcourt against the best teams.

I think Brown has more upside and can be a solid SEC post player, but as a true soph he still may be a year away. Rubin was productive at Loyola (Chicago) but he could use another 15-20 lbs and even then, he may be overpowered by the likes of Florida's frontcourt. It's fair to have questions about him as our starting post. Lue I think may be underrated for his proposed role on this team and will help space the floor but if we want to attack Florida's bigs with our guards penetrating into the paint, he is going to have to hit a high percentage of open shots on the perimeter (which he hasn't proved he can do yet) or on the baseline and/or use his athleticism to beat them down the court.
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It's funny, but what we really need as a big is someone exactly like Felix.
 
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All Vol! said:
About the Trilly suggestion that MI has the advantage right now because he doubts Tennessee would wait on Harris, do you imagine that's valid at all from anything you've heard? If Juke went all the way to the draft withdrawal deadline a month from now (however unlikely that may be) before making a decision, do you imagine we're prepared to hold out that long? Obviously he's worth waiting on, but unless the staff knows something they're not disclosing, waiting too long comes with risks.
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Is there a screenshot of this take from Trilly? I've seen one other person reference this but haven't seen the evidence.
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Not going round and round on this...I specifically stated "individual" and Box OBPR which doesn't adjust for teammates. More importantly my statement still stands even if you use OBPR which has JP listed as #5...he obviously is pretty dang good on offense so not sure what your point is???
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If the correct stat agrees with you, use it. Don’t try and draw conclusions from stats that don’t show what you’re wanting to measure. If you’re talking about individual contributions, use the stat that controls for team context. Otherwise you aren’t proving anything.

I’m not the person you were arguing with, but for me, this is an issue of process. If you reach the right conclusion for the wrong reasons, it’s worthless imo.
 
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