2025 Transfer Portal Thread

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If some of these NIL numbers being thrown around are true it is crazy. For example, all the money the Duke crew spent and they didn’t win the championship. There is no return on spending this money other than winning a championship. Do you think the Duke crew funding the NIL this year is happy about finishing 3/4. Again I’m just using Duke as an example.
 
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OrangeVolMan said:
If some of these NIL numbers being thrown around are true it is crazy. For example, all the money the Duke crew spent and they didn’t win the championship. There is no return on spending this money other than winning a championship. Do you think the Duke crew funding the NIL this year is happy about finishing 3/4. Again I’m just using Duke as an example.
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IDK about that. The Duke brand is super valuable. And I imagine the amount of money they can raise from alumni is basically infinite.

They aren't gonna spend that money in Football either.

Even if they are technically losing money on paper, which I wouldn't be so sure they are, I'd still assume the university looks at it as worth the expense due to how much national exposure the university receives from the basketball brand.
 
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OrangeVolMan said:
If some of these NIL numbers being thrown around are true it is crazy. For example, all the money the Duke crew spent and they didn’t win the championship. There is no return on spending this money other than winning a championship. Do you think the Duke crew funding the NIL this year is happy about finishing 3/4. Again I’m just using Duke as an example.
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Hot take here: spending that much money has little to no return even with a championship for the donors. Special access to 18-22 years olds? Meh.

I find sports entertaining, give $25 bones a month to TVC but I can't reconcile any more than that and I kind of can't reconcile 25 either lol. Businesses can get a return on it. Fans get burned every time. Jmo, imo, roflawfulcptercakes, iirc, tbh, n00b
 
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Milehigh_Vol said:
I think after Rice we only have enough money for Freeman. We also have a recruiting class to bring in.

We can pick up some filler pieces but I don't think we have much money left. I could be wrong though, I have been before.
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This is not correct. They are very strategic with their pool of money. They paid a fair price for Gillespie but they didn’t have to overpay, for reasons. Carey was a moneyball get, the market value for him was much lower than our staff’s opinion of him. And that leaves wiggle room to spend elsewhere.

At one point the staff likely thought they might be able to get a value pickup in freeman—a d2 player in harrogate, TN. But his stock blew up, so now they’ll have to pay market value. Which they still might do, he’s a good player.

Also keep in mind we don’t even have a full starting roster. At the moment it’s Gillespie and two posts (Carey and okpara maybe). We would have had to pay for wings whether they were transfers or returnees—that’s the reality—so we have budget to do that. And we will have, every year. It’s not even a question.

This is also why this staff prefers not to get into bidding wars. They want to build a whole team, and they want to sustain success into the future. If Louisville overpays for mcneely, we move on. We trust our staff to find court value that matches or exceeds the dollar value, and we aren’t interested in torpedoing the front court (say) to overpay for one shooting guard.

And because of the savings, we are able to do things like make a competitive offer to ament.

Or to fill the wing and backup wing spots if ament turns us down.

We are not going to flashy-bid, but we will definitely compete.
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
I call BS on 3 million to Rice. People said the same thing about Gillespie to TN but we all know that was BS. People love to overinflate NIL offers
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Spurned Villanova fans saying something is a lot different than Trilly. It's not that surprising, considering that Nova also made a massive offer to JG that he turned down.
 
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Creeker said:
I would disagree. It seems they are still pretty aggressive with Ament and they know that Rice is likely to commit prior to Ament, if they feel like they can continue to pursue Ament knowing his timeline is after that of Rice, I think there’s money left to be spent. I don’t get the vibe from what’s been said that if Rice commits we drop the pursuit of Ament and that would have to mean we have some decent money left after Rice.
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You maybe right, but but I tend to stay on the conservative side.

We will findout Sunday, because if Rice doesn't come i think we focus on 2 extra pieces heavily
 
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Milehigh_Vol said:
I think after Rice we only have enough money for Freeman. We also have a recruiting class to bring in.

We can pick up some filler pieces but I don't think we have much money left. I could be wrong though, I have been before.
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I don’t think that’s accurate simply based off our continued pursuit of Ament, if you don’t have enough money to be in the conversation then there’s no point in having those discussions with his camp that we are.
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
I call BS on 3 million to Rice. People said the same thing about Gillespie to TN but we all know that was BS. People love to overinflate NIL offers
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I don't think it's bs. Pretty sure Gillespie turned down the 3m for about half of that to play for his dream school growing up. Rice is from Maryland, so we won't have the same advantage with him. Let's hope he's besties with Gillespie and hope he wasn't too fond of his former coach.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Maybe I’m wrong, but I disagree, not necessarily from a spots standpoint, but a $$$ standpoint. If you land Rice as is expected you’re down to 3 spots, and you sorely are lacking 1-2 more shooters on this roster, the number of those guys left in the portal isn’t huge and more will be coming off the board in the next week.

If you asked me would you rather Option A. Pass on Ament right now and go land say, Wikenrson, Pozzato & Freeman to go with Rice or Option B. Continue pursuing Ament, with an at best 50/50 shot of getting him, take your chances there and just be left him Rice and potentially Ament.

I’m going Option A every single time, but that’s jmo
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I don't know the ins and outs of how this works, but couldn't they pursue both Ament and others at the same time?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
There is a massive state tax and COLA to be considered between the two schools, so I don’t think you have to be at $3m or probably even that close, but if you thought you’d get him for a bargain that’s also not likely. Would guess he’ll be a similar deal as to Gillespie in my estimation.
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State tax is about 3%. Local tax in suburbs of Philly might add another 3%. Let’s call that 200k hit vs Tn on 3mm. Our sales tax is high, but theirs is too. I don’t think COL will really hit him. He’s not buying a house. A jar of peanut butter and rolling papers are probably similar in cost. I think the bigger reality is that the 3mm offer is probably X guaranteed and Y incentives. We’ve been able to show the math that our number is closer than it appears based on the odds of hitting certain metrics.
 
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